• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:38
CEST 14:38
KST 21:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!31Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week5Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Starcraft2 player guess game is Coming~!
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 540 Dodge This The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 [ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos)
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group F KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10094 users

Static Defenses/Buildings inside your Mineral Line

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
ZealousD
Profile Joined July 2010
United States13 Posts
August 22 2010 07:19 GMT
#1
As it has been firmly established many times before, SC2 is fundamentally different from SC1 in terms of mining and mining efficiency. The pathing and behavior of workers is significantly improved.

Well, for some time I had been grappling with WHERE to put static defenses near mineral lines. Should I put them behind the minerals? Near the gas? But I had assumed that putting them INSIDE the mineral line, where the workers would have to walk around them, would be a bad idea. Afterall, workers would just have to make longer trips back and forth between the minerals, and theoretically that should cut my mineral intake.

But I decided to run a quick test, and I found that the impact of buildings inside your mineral line can be nearly insignificant. In fact, with 3 properly placed buildings, the impact seemed to be less than a single worker.

Here's a video to demonstrate.



Replay: http://www.mediafire.com/?i6985zt6yksl3s9

Now, the income tab in SC2 is prone to a lot of random noise, which can make exact estimates difficult. But by carefully viewing the range of numbers during each individual case, we can see that the impact of the pylons seems to be less than a single worker. 19 mineral workers with pylons actually yield a slightly better economy than 18 mineral workers with no pylons. The two pylons used that slightly impede probe movement near the gas seem to have no effect whatsoever, since probes already have a small waiting time buffer when a geyser is saturated.

With this in mind, is it worth it to build your static defenses inside your mineral lines when you're expecting harassment?
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
August 22 2010 07:21 GMT
#2
obviously yes

cannons and turrets fucked shit up in BW but everyone did it because its more important to keep units out of your worker line than messing up mining paths

so if the effect is insignificant then obviously its advantageous to put spines/cannons/turrets in your mineral line.
☆★☆ 7486!!! Join the Ban mOnion Anti-Trolling Initiative! - Caller | "on a scale of machine to 10, how bad is that Zerg?" - LZgamer | you are the new tl.net bonjwa monion, congrats - Rekrul | "Cheeseburgers dynamite lilacs" - Chill
rasa
Profile Joined August 2010
United States6 Posts
August 22 2010 07:57 GMT
#3
I know I'm going to... =D I was concerned about restricting the movement of workers myself, but it seems there isn't much to worry about. It means I can place turrets, etc. within a shorter radius around my workers making it more difficult for them to be focused down.
Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
October 09 2010 15:57 GMT
#4
I think most people 'kinda' knew of this, but it's actually quite important. I'd say it means that it is much more effective to build defensive structures in the mineral line if you want to protect workers.
luKrek
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden15 Posts
October 09 2010 16:21 GMT
#5
There are different "shapes" of mineral patches. This is just one of them.
Try the rest too (high yields, the ones that aren't arched etc)
x89
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom276 Posts
October 09 2010 16:30 GMT
#6
I quite often throw a spore crawler into the mineral line, it's a prime attack spot for mutas and banshees, I guess it depends on how close I am to the edge of the map, how big I perceive the threat of air cheese on my mineral line and if I think I can get away with throwing down static defences behind the mineral line or at the sides instead.
Hallowed are the Ori.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IntoTheTV X SOOP
11:00
ISSL Weekly #2
WardiTV684
IntoTheiNu 679
Rex103
CranKy Ducklings74
CranKy Ducklings SOOP6
LiquipediaDiscussion
Escore
10:00
Season 3
escodisco1687
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 103
SHIN 20
herO (SOOP) 15
ByuN (SOOP) 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 47680
Calm 10330
Shuttle 1677
Jaedong 775
EffOrt 603
Pusan 576
BeSt 504
Light 476
firebathero 427
Mini 392
[ Show more ]
Soma 293
Snow 224
Soulkey 207
Zeus 158
Leta 140
Hyun 126
ToSsGirL 105
Killer 98
Rush 91
Mong 71
JYJ 51
Sea.KH 49
Aegong 33
Terrorterran 22
Bale 18
Sacsri 17
sorry 17
soO 16
Noble 14
Free 13
Shine 12
yabsab 11
Hm[arnc] 11
scan(afreeca) 11
zelot 11
Sexy 9
Dota 2
Gorgc1965
qojqva861
Counter-Strike
fl0m2588
olofmeister1506
zeus1118
Sick112
kRYSTAL_92
edward50
Other Games
singsing2431
Lowko352
B2W.Neo289
DeMusliM144
QueenE6
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2736
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 10
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV809
League of Legends
• Jankos1335
• TFBlade567
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
3h 52m
The PiG Daily
8h 22m
BASILISK vs TBD
Serral vs Rogue
Korean StarCraft League
13h 22m
GSL
22h 22m
Replay Cast
1d 11h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 22h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
GSL
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-27
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 6
Light Tournament 2026
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.