[D] Simple T build got me to #1 in Diamond - Page 16

On July 23 2010 15:24 mecra wrote:



It's fun when you think I'm serious. Also a note, I enjoy watching you guys nerd rage and blow your nuts over people who don't see eye to eye to your elite understanding of a computer game and its associated communities.

On July 23 2010 15:24 mecra wrote:I honestly don't believe that scans make Terran uncheesable but it's fun to throw out there because so many of you claim that scans counter all cheese because you know so well how to counter all possible situations given the limited capability of a scan against a real opponent. When making such all-encompassing claims, it's simply evidence to their real lack of skill and understanding because they have to exaggerate the response. "SCOUTING KILLS THIS! TANKS KILL THAT!" yeah yeah yeah.

On July 23 2010 15:24 mecra wrote:So, carry on little lemmings, don't let me try to disuade you from ever seeing something from a different angle than the rest of the community. Don't let me actually challenge your vocabularly or brow-beating mentality that you bring to people who don't act like the rest of you. You don't have to agree with me, but being so firmly entrenched in your notions speaks volumes about how versatile you guys are.

On July 23 2010 15:24 mecra wrote:Quite simply, a ton of you would still die to this "Cheese" because frankly I sincerely doubt you all possess the l33t skills to counter something you may not know is coming. Plus, if you were to guess this tactic and be proven wrong and thus owned by a different "Cheese" method, that would also be as satisfying.

On July 23 2010 15:24 mecra wrote:Some day maybe we'll have a game where every tactic or strategy is viable and can't be used as a meter of how good somone is because of how "Cheesy" the community deems the implementation. Nah, you guys need your definitions to feel good about your "pure" styles of play and how superior they are to the weaker players who must rely on cheap tactics to win.

On July 23 2010 15:24 mecra wrote:Frankly, I thought we were playing a game to try new things. I didn't know we were competing at life or something else so important.

On July 23 2010 23:31 gREIFOCs wrote:


So, you are not serious? The whole thread is a joke? Can you quote your jokes?

And I'm not nerdraging, note that i'm not insulting nor attacking you, I'm mearly commentating on the strategy posted here.



I don't know if someone here said that Terran is uncheesable. But I (the guy you just quoted) never said something barely similar to that.



Do you understand the function of language? We use words as symbols to sintetize concepts. The whole community defines cheese to save time the way that several players already told you.

Discussing the therm has no purpose here, because even if we end up agreeing that cheese is when "Ultralisk get stucked behind low tier units" it doesn't change that your build still has all the disadvantages (and advantages off course) of a cheese build.

Even if the therm itself didn't existed, the tactic would still require secrecy, it would still leave you techless and gasless, ect.



Cheese isn't an insult. It's just a word, that describes a type of tactic. I use cheese in some of my matches and it's ok. It's the same with many top players (see white-ra and hidden proxy starports f.e). Yes, some players, whine about cheese, ragequit, and dismiss things because they are "cheese", so what? You aren't talking to those kind of players here. And no one said "this is cheese therefore it sucks".

We are just explaining to you that, it IS cheese (something you are arguing for your OWN predjuice towards the word), that is not really something new, and it's not the best tactic of the world, or unbeatable. It's a tool. And having this as a tool if you are terran is good. Because it could be the tool you need to resolve a situation.

But if this is your only tool. Well, then you are really narrowing your play.



A strategy game where "every tactic or strategy is viable" is viable, isn't a strategy game. It's a good thing that everything isn't viable. It allows to standard gameplay, variations of that and innovative gameplay.

And no, we don't need definitions to feel good. We need words and their definitions to comunicate ideas. Nothing more, nothing less. But I'm feeling you are aiming to go beyond the troll barrier with this one.



Ok so this is the part where you are joking. Mass marines isn't a new thing. It's actually a BW build. And if you use the same build over and over again to get to 1# in Diamond, you are the one that isn't trying new things.

If you don't change methods, and you clearly aren't really open to comments, you are the one that is confining his play.

On July 24 2010 03:44 hofodomo wrote:
Oh wow, I have to say the best part of reading this was the "All-In Limited Rush." Please excuse my "flattering ridicule" while I break down in a fit of "composed hysteria,"

On July 25 2010 13:57 DminusTerran wrote:
Did replays ever get posted for this, "All-In Limited Rush."?

On July 28 2010 13:24 Raysalis wrote:
One thing i still can't get my head round is why must we wait for 750 minerals before throwing down the Raxs. Is it actually faster than just building the Rax 1 at a time? Can't actually figure out why its better not to built 1 rax at a time.

On July 28 2010 13:53 A3iL3r0n wrote:Edit: Actually, it could be a timing thing he uses. Once he has 750 minerals accumulated, building SCVs during this period, and he pulls 4 off mining to make the barracks, the completed barracks will be supported by sufficient income to train marines non-stop.