• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:45
CET 17:45
KST 01:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)3Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win2RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket
Tourneys
Discovering the Best Deli and Sandwiches in Santa [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Which season is the best in ASL? [BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D) Data analysis on 70 million replays FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2295 users

TLMC#18 Judging Comments and Feedback Thread

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
Kantuva
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay209 Posts
May 21 2023 01:01 GMT
#1
Hey guys!

First of all, congrats to the Finalists of TLMC#18! It has been quite the process internally and none of it would be without the work of Waxangel and thank you to the assistance from TL alongside Monster Energy's sponsorship!

Just like previously in TLMC#17, this time around TeamLiquid will be releasing the spreadsheet with the comments that we ask our panel of Judges to write about what issues they see on the submissions delivered to them.

Like always there is a foreword on what is actually included on this sheet:

FOREWORD
The entirety of the TLMC#18 submissions are not included on this sheet, only maps which passed an early stage filtering, which is used to reduce the workload for judges, sadly judges can't review upwards of 180 maps on a single week, so around ~1/3rd of the overall lowest reviewed maps don't make the cut. TLMC will **always** try to default onto passing the maps onto the judges rather than filter them, but because of workload, schedule, costs, this step was added in the first place, after all TLMC is a community run project, with limited budgets and limited scope.

IMPORTANT:
Judges can be both casters or progamers or invited special judges, the races shown, do not necessarily represent that they only play a single race or that they vote with a singular mindset, but the race that they are "generally known" to play, their thoughts ought not be thought that they are therefore "maximizing" their own views of what the map pools ought be for them to "win more games", these thoughts and ratings are dedicated to improve the overall landscape of the map pool, and more can be read on the Rating Guidelines tab on this spreadsheet.


Download links:
  • Google Sheets Spreadsheet
  • Direct Download to XLSX file


And alongside the same vein, TLMC will be releasing Quality Assurance (QA) comments which might be helpful commentary on best practices to mapmakers to make sure that their maps pass QA with flying colors

QA Comments can be found near the bottom on the spreadsheet below, which is the actual spreadsheet used during the QA process by me and other helpers:

  • Google Sheets Quality Assurance Spreadsheet


Beyond these documents, I will be answering general questions that submitters be them finalists or otherwise might have regarding the maps sent. Be advised that sadly the official TLMC Feedback Threads are not a thing anymore, but I'll give best efforts to respond questions such as why X Y Z map might not have made it to the proper judging steps, and hopefully ensure that next that the map, or some other new map is sent that it fulfills some of the requests on what it takes to reach these stages
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | TLMC Volunteer Admin | Join us on: https://mapcave.net/discord
CommanderChp
Profile Joined May 2021
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-21 02:18:58
May 21 2023 02:18 GMT
#2
For what reasons was Sacred Isle Cut?
TLMC19 Finalist (Sacred Isle and Atlantis) TLMC20 Finalist (Persephone), TLMC21 Finalist (Taito Citadel, Talisman and Celestial Enclave)
depressed1
Profile Blog Joined May 2021
51 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-21 12:06:34
May 21 2023 12:06 GMT
#3
Sir, i have a question. why you such a tlmc dictator cuck. Huh?

asking for a friend

User was temp banned for this post.
depressed_marauder (yt: DepressingStarcraft) done and gone.
KillerSmile
Profile Joined November 2018
Germany89 Posts
May 21 2023 15:10 GMT
#4
On May 21 2023 21:06 depressed1 wrote:
Sir, i have a question. why you such a tlmc dictator cuck. Huh?

asking for a friend


Your friend seems pretty rude, is he or she upset to only get one finalist and not 5?
Mapmaker, author of Data-C, Solaris, Ley Lines, Torches and Reclamation LE
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
May 22 2023 20:10 GMT
#5
what were the issues with flutterby that made you choose not to include it?
sidasf
Profile Joined February 2023
94 Posts
May 26 2023 04:49 GMT
#6
Would absolutely love to see Sleepwalker, goldenaura and calliope. Some maps, especially in the current map pool are so drab and don't make use of starcraft's graphical system that I think has aged quite well.
houndofbaskervillee
Profile Joined April 2023
12 Posts
June 11 2023 06:50 GMT
#7
kantuva is da man <3

his latest sound advice to me? > "try to stop getting banned on discord servers"

to which i replied "but dude it is so good and you know it"
houndofbaskervillee
Profile Joined April 2023
12 Posts
July 31 2023 02:19 GMT
#8
no new maps
?

i am disappoint
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #232
SteadfastSC363
iHatsuTV 7
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 363
LamboSC2 285
Fuzer 247
ProTech132
BRAT_OK 55
RushiSC 30
MindelVK 24
Livibee 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3794
Horang2 2530
Bisu 2463
Flash 1806
Stork 871
Soma 674
Shuttle 625
Mini 599
Light 567
ZerO 325
[ Show more ]
Rush 301
BeSt 298
hero 269
Snow 242
Hyun 99
Backho 81
Soulkey 62
Terrorterran 32
Mind 32
ToSsGirL 31
soO 30
sorry 26
SilentControl 25
scan(afreeca) 20
Rock 17
HiyA 16
Aegong 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Hm[arnc] 10
ivOry 9
NaDa 9
Dota 2
Gorgc5914
singsing2968
qojqva2402
BananaSlamJamma164
capcasts28
League of Legends
rGuardiaN15
Counter-Strike
fl0m12797
zeus2171
Foxcn155
Other Games
B2W.Neo2288
FrodaN1050
Beastyqt679
crisheroes364
RotterdaM204
DeMusliM167
ArmadaUGS108
KnowMe101
XaKoH 85
QueenE59
Trikslyr53
ZerO(Twitch)17
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream149
Other Games
BasetradeTV69
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 35
• poizon28 15
• Reevou 3
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 24
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2230
• TFBlade1094
Other Games
• WagamamaTV235
Upcoming Events
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
7h 16m
The PondCast
17h 16m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
OSC
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
StarCraft2.fi
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.