• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:44
CEST 01:44
KST 08:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End2Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!41Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End Rush's Odyssey Controversy StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II BW General Discussion Best Games Kespa era
Tourneys
ASL Season 22 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary CSLAN 4 is Coming! [ASL22] Ro24 Group A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9864 users

[M] (2) Ember Crag

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
jaydevyper
Profile Joined February 2020
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-09 19:23:15
February 09 2020 17:08 GMT
#1
Hello, I have recently completed my first public published melee map: Ember Crag.

As I am new to SCII and the community, I have only been able to playtest vs. AI and would really appreciate any feedback from members willing to give it a look.

The map is slightly larger than average (from what I can tell) for a 1v1 (180x140 playable). It was designed with the longer macro game in mind, and I believe has a longer than normal base to base scouting time. Original testing was too long and so I added a back door ramp from the base 4 position for an alternate path. Main ramp to main ramp I believe is 65 seconds.

I am looking for any feedback to improve my skills. So any criticism on the aesthetics, mechanics, or impact to gameplay is highly appreciated.

I have begun working on my next melee map project, and hope to use any feedback on Ember Crag to improve that one as well.

As this is my first post, I hope I have provided all relevant information.

[image loading]
"Wise men say 'Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza'" -Michelangelo
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 10 2020 03:23 GMT
#2
65 seconds main ramp to main ramp is absurdly long--35 seconds is typical for a ladder map. A natural with two openings is a problem since in Protoss can't walloff in PvZ. A main base where tanks can siege the mineral line and gases from the lowground is likewise problematic. Expansion-wise there isn't really a flow to the expansions past the fourth base--the top right and bottom left corners of the map are so far away from everything else that you can't expand there. The center of the map wastes a lot of space with empty areas. The gold bases can't really be taken unless you've already practically won the game. I wouldn't recommend using the terrain height tool at all (within the playable bounds of the map) since the terrain will strangely straighten out if someone builds a building in game near the warped terrain.
CharactR
Profile Joined January 2020
Canada111 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-10 04:52:38
February 10 2020 04:51 GMT
#3
180 x 140 actually isn't slightly larger, it's massively larger! A more average 1v1 map size is closer to 140 x 136. Even 148 x 148 feels large unless it's a 4 player map.
Creator of ladder maps: Altitude LE, Undercurrent (2v2), Crimson Research Lab (2v2), Sandstorm (3v3), Lexiphanicism (4v4), Floodplain (4v4)
jaydevyper
Profile Joined February 2020
United States7 Posts
February 11 2020 02:15 GMT
#4
Thank you for the feedback. It is very helpful and I will see how I can rework the map to incorporate some necessary adjustments.
"Wise men say 'Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza'" -Michelangelo
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
16:00
CSLAN Day 2
Airneanach356
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 138
ZombieGrub86
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 7470
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm153
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Doublelift7005
JimRising 489
Counter-Strike
summit1g9224
minikerr43
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King140
Other Games
gofns19411
Grubby1697
Liquid`RaSZi1675
ROOTCatZ122
RotterdaM71
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1037
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH288
• Hupsaiya 125
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22370
Other Games
• imaqtpie1118
• Shiphtur374
Upcoming Events
OSC
16m
Afreeca Starleague
10h 16m
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
11h 16m
The Patches Monday
16h 16m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
GSL
1d 11h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
Proleague 2026-08-16
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
Escore Tournament S3: W8
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.