• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:36
CET 06:36
KST 14:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool48Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death
Brood War
General
Recent recommended BW games ASL21 General Discussion Gypsy to Korea RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2026 Changsha Offline Cup [ASL21] Ro24 Group B [ASL21] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8539 users

[M] (2) Ember Crag

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
jaydevyper
Profile Joined February 2020
United States7 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-09 19:23:15
February 09 2020 17:08 GMT
#1
Hello, I have recently completed my first public published melee map: Ember Crag.

As I am new to SCII and the community, I have only been able to playtest vs. AI and would really appreciate any feedback from members willing to give it a look.

The map is slightly larger than average (from what I can tell) for a 1v1 (180x140 playable). It was designed with the longer macro game in mind, and I believe has a longer than normal base to base scouting time. Original testing was too long and so I added a back door ramp from the base 4 position for an alternate path. Main ramp to main ramp I believe is 65 seconds.

I am looking for any feedback to improve my skills. So any criticism on the aesthetics, mechanics, or impact to gameplay is highly appreciated.

I have begun working on my next melee map project, and hope to use any feedback on Ember Crag to improve that one as well.

As this is my first post, I hope I have provided all relevant information.

[image loading]
"Wise men say 'Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza'" -Michelangelo
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
February 10 2020 03:23 GMT
#2
65 seconds main ramp to main ramp is absurdly long--35 seconds is typical for a ladder map. A natural with two openings is a problem since in Protoss can't walloff in PvZ. A main base where tanks can siege the mineral line and gases from the lowground is likewise problematic. Expansion-wise there isn't really a flow to the expansions past the fourth base--the top right and bottom left corners of the map are so far away from everything else that you can't expand there. The center of the map wastes a lot of space with empty areas. The gold bases can't really be taken unless you've already practically won the game. I wouldn't recommend using the terrain height tool at all (within the playable bounds of the map) since the terrain will strangely straighten out if someone builds a building in game near the warped terrain.
CharactR
Profile Joined January 2020
Canada110 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-10 04:52:38
February 10 2020 04:51 GMT
#3
180 x 140 actually isn't slightly larger, it's massively larger! A more average 1v1 map size is closer to 140 x 136. Even 148 x 148 feels large unless it's a 4 player map.
Creator of ladder maps: Altitude LE, Undercurrent (2v2), Crimson Research Lab (2v2), Sandstorm (3v3), Lexiphanicism (4v4), Floodplain (4v4)
jaydevyper
Profile Joined February 2020
United States7 Posts
February 11 2020 02:15 GMT
#4
Thank you for the feedback. It is very helpful and I will see how I can rework the map to incorporate some necessary adjustments.
"Wise men say 'Forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza'" -Michelangelo
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
22:00
Best Games of SC
Maru vs Solar
Rogue vs MaxPax
herO vs Clem
SHIN vs ByuN
herO vs SHIN
TBD vs ByuN
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
-ZergGirl 205
ProTech38
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 355
Tasteless 123
Dewaltoss 80
sSak 42
Noble 42
scan(afreeca) 20
Dota 2
febbydoto20
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 611
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv616
Other Games
summit1g10099
WinterStarcraft434
C9.Mang0418
crisheroes278
Nina108
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV103
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Sammyuel 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 28
• Azhi_Dahaki25
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
4h 24m
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
Platinum Heroes Events
9h 24m
BSL
14h 24m
RSL Revival
1d 4h
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
1d 6h
BSL
1d 13h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.