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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/8hi8htJ.jpg) Second submission for TLMC. Standard Desert design. The third and the low main are risky but i like it. Overview: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6rPdKVE.jpg) General: + Show Spoiler + Texture: Phaeton Playable: 144x136 Expands: 10 Xel'Naga: 0 Pictures: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/V1dNedz.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YjN6RiK.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WCFqHox.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vb9SclI.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/No8Ma0z.jpg) | ||
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WedRine
Denmark64 Posts
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
Low ground main seems silly since you could raise it up two levels, but whatever. Good to find out if it works, anyway. Seems like the unpathable high ground bits could use some more doodads. Layout is neat, though. I like the style. | ||
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moskonia
Israel1448 Posts
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Kruxxen
United States149 Posts
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
However the general layout of the map is really cool imo. The way the thirds are quite close and straight forward to move to by ground, yet blocked by rocks. And even if you'd expect your enemy to take out the rocks and pressure you hard third to third, you can take another alternative corner base that's very far away instead. The last base has a very interesting neutrality going on, kinda between the nat of one player and the fourth of another, yet not a strong strategical position to take and also very close by air to the main. Overall the bases are all very unqiue, nothing is too turtly or too hard. Brilliant map layout imo. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
naw but 4 real great job with the map  I wonder if the low main will be a bit easy to siege? However it's something new and that's good. | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
Securing 4ths + 5ths should be important here, since they are far away. | ||
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KingCorwin
United States134 Posts
1 point for perfect use of map space/boundary 1 point for low ground main 1 point for layout (bases flow well, alternate paths flow well) .5 points for textures (getting tired of seeing endless phaetheon, even tho theres a little temple mixed in here) .5 for the awesome temple corner bases (i feel like if i were to play this, id just ditch my main and go make new base up there where its so neat) Thats 4 out of 5, very good work on this one! | ||
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Caviar
70 Posts
Very unique layout. I just wish the aesthetics were as interesting as the layout | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On April 22 2013 06:33 WedRine wrote: the low main, i love it! the third, i love it! the middle, i love it! - but whats up with the reactor doodads? great aesthetics aswell. mereel can correct me if wrong, but they seem meant to harken back to the BW badlands doodads, which is awesome, like this map. skeptical about lowground but it's probably the best take on it I've seen. | ||
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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
On April 22 2013 11:23 EatThePath wrote: mereel can correct me if wrong, but they seem meant to harken back to the BW badlands doodads, which is awesome, like this map. skeptical about lowground but it's probably the best take on it I've seen. correct | ||
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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
On April 22 2013 10:40 Quakecomm wrote: is this published anywhere? on EU ofc | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2605 Posts
You can't hold the ramp against cheese because the defenders won't be able to shoot up while the attackers can shoot down. | ||
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
On April 22 2013 12:00 gobbledydook wrote: There is a glaring problem with lowground mains. You can't hold the ramp against cheese because the defenders won't be able to shoot up while the attackers can shoot down. Well, players will need to take that into account when picking builds and such. Might still end up being deemed broken, but can't we give it some time? | ||
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
NA Please? I really want to test it, and I get a lot of lag on EU. | ||
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
On April 22 2013 12:13 Gfire wrote: Well, players will need to take that into account when picking builds and such. Might still end up being deemed broken, but can't we give it some time? I agree, the meta game will never evolve if we never put players in uncomfortable situations. That's why Blizzard is taking so long to patch HotS and I think it's a good thing. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On April 22 2013 12:13 Gfire wrote: Well, players will need to take that into account when picking builds and such. Might still end up being deemed broken, but can't we give it some time? On this map I can see proxy pylon+forge+pylon wall being an incredibly effective pvz strategy | ||
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
On April 23 2013 05:06 Plexa wrote: On this map I can see proxy pylon+forge+pylon wall being an incredibly effective pvz strategy Maybe unbuildable rocks at the top of the ramp for version 1.1? I feel like that would be an easy fix. | ||
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
On April 23 2013 05:44 Quakecomm wrote: Maybe unbuildable rocks at the top of the ramp for version 1.1? I feel like that would be an easy fix. Yeah, I think it would probably be good to do this. But then, what about blocks on the bottom? Is that an issue? And you can't really do it on the bottom and the top since then the defender won't be able to wall off at all, either. | ||
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
On April 23 2013 05:46 Gfire wrote: Yeah, I think it would probably be good to do this. But then, what about blocks on the bottom? Is that an issue? And you can't really do it on the bottom and the top since then the defender won't be able to wall off at all, either. Can you not wall off the bottom the same way you do the top? I'm zerg so I don't actually know  Edit: I realize that there's no point to walling off the bottom anyway, so maybe debris at the ramp top is a bad idea. | ||
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SiskosGoatee
Albania1482 Posts
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PXEnTei
United States209 Posts
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lorestarcraft
United States1049 Posts
Other than that I like it really well. I do think that those little ramps by the 3rd should be 2x instead of 1x because that just hurts the defender from dealing with harass of the third base by choking things up too much there. | ||
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
On April 23 2013 06:15 SC_THORLORD wrote: WAlling off the bottom is not usefull at all. IF u 6 pool, i would have to scan to kill ur lings. i would have no vission. They'll be in vision by the time they're close enough to attack anything, since they're melee units. | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
On April 23 2013 06:43 Gfire wrote: They'll be in vision by the time they're close enough to attack anything, since they're melee units. Agreed. I think plexa is onto something tho about the forge wall. I think the meta would be pretty tricky here for zerg b/c protoss can just threaten a wall and zerg has to early pool, meanwhile it could be a fake and protoss is nexus firsting or some such. | ||
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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
On April 23 2013 07:01 Terranlover wrote: i will add those rocks ontop of the ramp k and that NA upload? | ||
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Qwyn
United States2781 Posts
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Master of DalK
Canada1803 Posts
Really great map! I do think that the name could use a bit of work though =/ | ||
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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
i dont know how to do that. can you just look if its up, i tried something, maybe it worked. | ||
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
On April 23 2013 07:44 Terranlover wrote: i dont know how to do that. can you just look if its up, i tried something, maybe it worked. k ill try thanks | ||
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Quakecomm
United States344 Posts
It's not there, but here's a guide I found on how to change your editor's region. http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/editor-bugs-and-feedback/6780-info-changing-your-editors-region-server/ Also, you may not want to do this, but you could put the map file up for download and I'd happily upload to NA for you, giving all credit to you of course. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
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ScorpSCII
Denmark499 Posts
On April 23 2013 08:36 Quakecomm wrote: It's not there, but here's a guide I found on how to change your editor's region. http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/editor-bugs-and-feedback/6780-info-changing-your-editors-region-server/ Also, you may not want to do this, but you could put the map file up for download and I'd happily upload to NA for you, giving all credit to you of course. Lol, why do that when Blizzard added official support for region changing? Just select the region in Preferences. | ||
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gronnelg
Norway354 Posts
I usually look at maps when I'm at work, and then forget about the maps once I'm home. Hopefully I'll remember this time around | ||
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Meerel
Germany713 Posts
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