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ATTx
Profile Joined February 2012
Korea (South)178 Posts
January 21 2013 04:27 GMT
#1
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lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
January 21 2013 06:26 GMT
#2
I predict this will last 1 season in GSL
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 21 2013 06:46 GMT
#3
finally a map image with good contrast. I cant see shit in GSL news
lost_artz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States366 Posts
January 21 2013 09:44 GMT
#4
On January 21 2013 15:26 lorestarcraft wrote:
I predict this will last 1 season in GSL


Two at most, it just seems like such a weird map how everything's laid out.
SiskosGoatee
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Albania1482 Posts
January 21 2013 09:58 GMT
#5
You can blink into the backyard as well as warpin, not sure if bad or brilliant, we will see.

Apart from that, really cool map in terms of layout, finally something different.
WCS Apartheid cometh, all hail the casual audience, death to merit and hard work.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
January 21 2013 10:37 GMT
#6
I like this map a lot for how different it is, yet I don't think it does anything stupid or over the top.

How long it can remain in GSL or if there is imbalances remains to be seen, but for the time being I have high hopes for unique games
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Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
January 21 2013 11:27 GMT
#7
I'm just glad there's a GSL map for the first time in a long time that is taking a few chances. It may not be perfect - we'll see on that - but at least it is trying.
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Unsane
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada170 Posts
January 21 2013 12:50 GMT
#8
I wish more maps would make use of varying mineral layouts.
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
January 21 2013 12:58 GMT
#9
I really think this map needs one more base below the third but I still like it
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Dujek
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom276 Posts
January 21 2013 14:15 GMT
#10
I honestly have no idea what to make of this map, but watching tasteless and artosis talk about it should be a lot of fun.
Sumadin
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark588 Posts
January 21 2013 14:39 GMT
#11
On January 21 2013 21:58 algue wrote:
I really think this map needs one more base below the third but I still like it


How did i miss that?

Yea 4.5 bases per player is... a questionable decision. And even then 1 of the bases for each player is centered thus practically impossible to secure.

Even on Ohana with 5 bases per player the low number of bases have been a frequent problem, even without centered bases.

What are they thinking exactly? Suddenly i am not too sure about this map.
The basic key to beating a priest is playing a deck that is terrible.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 14:46:28
January 21 2013 14:43 GMT
#12
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SiskosGoatee
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Albania1482 Posts
January 21 2013 15:36 GMT
#13
On January 21 2013 23:39 Sumadin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 21:58 algue wrote:
I really think this map needs one more base below the third but I still like it


How did i miss that?

Yea 4.5 bases per player is... a questionable decision. And even then 1 of the bases for each player is centered thus practically impossible to secure.

Even on Ohana with 5 bases per player the low number of bases have been a frequent problem, even without centered bases.

What are they thinking exactly? Suddenly i am not too sure about this map.
I think this is the purpose of this map, it's meant to force people to do 2base pushes and potentially expand behind it. This has been the overall flow of the GSL this season by also basically putting rocks on all the thirds on older maps.
WCS Apartheid cometh, all hail the casual audience, death to merit and hard work.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10610 Posts
January 21 2013 16:15 GMT
#14
the 3rd is very difficult to take, but if thats how the map will play out and the creator intended to, then im ok with that.

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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
January 21 2013 16:35 GMT
#15
I love this map and I'm so glad GSL are finally moving away from every map being basically the same.

It's all well and good having maps that support really early 3 base play, but when every map in the pool does it it makes the game almost unbearable to watch as every game plays out the same.

I love the design, the base positioning and the cool backyard nat (unseen for ages, crevasse was the last one right?). Hope to see more maps like this and more experimental ones in the future with HoTS around the corner! :D
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lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
January 21 2013 16:45 GMT
#16
This gets map gets worse the more I look at it. So awful. It's not creative, it's just bad. Even on maps where the third is harder, it still has to be possible to take it. Ripping half of the strats out of the playbook doesn't improve play. Why doesn't someone from GOM look at the awesome and creative community maps and pick one? They are 10 times better and balanced. Seriously, I am so mad at this.
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
January 21 2013 16:52 GMT
#17
Don't see the point of the 2 gold minerals, but this type of map is long overdue. I like the way the lowground runs across the entire map stylistically, but I also like the general layout of the expansions. The overview's slightly headache-inducing, but overall I approve.
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
January 21 2013 17:28 GMT
#18
On January 22 2013 01:52 NewSunshine wrote:
Don't see the point of the 2 gold minerals, but this type of map is long overdue. I like the way the lowground runs across the entire map stylistically, but I also like the general layout of the expansions. The overview's slightly headache-inducing, but overall I approve.

I like the map overall, but I feel like the reintroduction of gold bases is a bad idea, that said, I'm not a map maker. Maybe he has an intended purpose for them.
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SiskosGoatee
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Albania1482 Posts
January 21 2013 17:39 GMT
#19
On January 22 2013 01:45 lorestarcraft wrote:
This gets map gets worse the more I look at it. So awful. It's not creative, it's just bad. Even on maps where the third is harder, it still has to be possible to take it. Ripping half of the strats out of the playbook doesn't improve play. Why doesn't someone from GOM look at the awesome and creative community maps and pick one? They are 10 times better and balanced. Seriously, I am so mad at this.
Because there are apparently people that really like it? Look at this thread for instance?

Why do people always think that everyone shares their opinion. So this is a map that you don't like? Great, it's a free internet, your opinion is your prerogative. I think the map is original, I don't know yet if it will be good but it seeks to achieve a certain specific thing and it seems to do that well. That's my opinion.

This is honestly a plague infesting that mapmaking commuity, so many people are like 'Oh man, this map pool of this tournament sucks because it has at least 3 maps I don't like'. Well, there will always be at least 3 you don 't like because everyone likes different maps.


On January 22 2013 02:28 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 01:52 NewSunshine wrote:
Don't see the point of the 2 gold minerals, but this type of map is long overdue. I like the way the lowground runs across the entire map stylistically, but I also like the general layout of the expansions. The overview's slightly headache-inducing, but overall I approve.

I like the map overall, but I feel like the reintroduction of gold bases is a bad idea, that said, I'm not a map maker. Maybe he has an intended purpose for them.
The purpose is clear, he wants it to yield less income than a normal gold base but more than a normal blue base?
WCS Apartheid cometh, all hail the casual audience, death to merit and hard work.
Sumadin
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark588 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 18:02:07
January 21 2013 17:49 GMT
#20
On January 22 2013 01:52 NewSunshine wrote:
Don't see the point of the 2 gold minerals, but this type of map is long overdue. I like the way the lowground runs across the entire map stylistically, but I also like the general layout of the expansions. The overview's slightly headache-inducing, but overall I approve.


Probably to even it out for terran. The gas itself is a rich vespene so by adding two 2 gold patches it is ofset slightly compared to zergs who go hatch first and then take the rich gas first.

Additional Comment:

On January 22 2013 00:36 SiskosGoatee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2013 23:39 Sumadin wrote:
On January 21 2013 21:58 algue wrote:
I really think this map needs one more base below the third but I still like it


How did i miss that?

Yea 4.5 bases per player is... a questionable decision. And even then 1 of the bases for each player is centered thus practically impossible to secure.

Even on Ohana with 5 bases per player the low number of bases have been a frequent problem, even without centered bases.

What are they thinking exactly? Suddenly i am not too sure about this map.
I think this is the purpose of this map, it's meant to force people to do 2base pushes and potentially expand behind it. This has been the overall flow of the GSL this season by also basically putting rocks on all the thirds on older maps.


Well he is not exactly basing his intentions on established map science then... do you know how long we have to go back to find 2 player maps with just 4.5 bases on ladder? Season ONE!! You rememper the map pool of utter garbage that everyone critized? And they were all trashed even by Blizzard of yester-yesteryear after just one season baring Xelnaga caverns.
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