• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:07
CET 10:07
KST 18:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement3BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Terran AddOns placement
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 ASL21 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1753 users

[M] Creep or Die! (Daybreak Custom)

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-22 16:41:45
November 18 2012 21:31 GMT
#1
[image loading]
------------------------ 7/22 Update: --------------------------
Poll added for next map in map pool:
Poll: What map would you like next for this Macro Trainer?

Neo Planet S (17)
 
71%

Bel'Shir Vestige (3)
 
13%

Akilon Wastes (1)
 
4%

Whirlwind (1)
 
4%

Red City (1)
 
4%

Other (please comment) (1)
 
4%

Star Station (0)
 
0%

Korhal Sky Island (0)
 
0%

Newkirk Precinct (0)
 
0%

24 total votes

Your vote: What map would you like next for this Macro Trainer?

(Vote): Neo Planet S
(Vote): Star Station
(Vote): Bel'Shir Vestige
(Vote): Akilon Wastes
(Vote): Whirlwind
(Vote): Red City
(Vote): Korhal Sky Island
(Vote): Newkirk Precinct
(Vote): Other (please comment)



------------------------ 6/28 Update: ---------------------------
+ Show Spoiler +

- Fixed a bug that was causing Bronze difficulty level to sometimes be as hard as GM
- Readjusted all difficulty levels in Creep or Die! mode as follows:

Bronze: Random -> Very Easy
Silver: Very Easy -> Easy
Gold: Easy ->Medium
Platinum: Medium -> Hard
Diamond: Hard -> Harder
Master: Hard -> Very hard
GM: Very hard -> Elite

Now published to all servers.


Patch History:+ Show Spoiler +

--------------------------- Edit: Major patch 6/10/13 -----------------------------------------
This map is now available in the Arcade on the following servers:
- Europe
- Americas

In addition, the following items have been fixed:
- AI upgrades now properly reset when the game resets
- The game should now reset properly when victory/defeat conditions are met
- Current HotS units/data have been implemented
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
12/24/12
The map has been completely overhauled and I've added some fancy new loading screen and title page art:
[image loading]
In addition, and as you can see from the previous screenshot, I'm pleased to announce that I've teamed up with The JaKaTaK to add in { TheStaircase } Step 0 game mode as well as my original Creep or Die! game mode.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Several new features have been added including:
- supply blocks can now be enforced
- queen energy is now monitored and can be enforced
- scoring system revised
- a few achievements have been added
- several bugs removed
- you can now manually reset during the game
- new game end screen allows the user to see some game statistics

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


More items will be coming in the future but I'll be taking a break for the holidays.


Please post your feedback and bug reports here. Thanks!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In the spirit of the old Macro or Die! maps I've decided to create a series (or at least one) Creep or Die! map. The focus of this map is to help mechanically challenged Zerg players focus on spreading that creep! How does the map help them focus on that task you ask? Simple, spread creep or your drones will die!

The map uses melee settings and has the following features:

- Seven difficulty levels:
- Bronze: 7 minute grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 120 seconds after; very easy AI; lose 4 drones each time the timer expires

- Silver: 6 minute 45 second grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 105 seconds after; easy AI; lose 6 drones each time the timer expires

- Gold: 6 minute 30 second grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 90 seconds after; medium AI; lose 8 drones each time the timer expires

- Platinum: 6 minute 15 second grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 75 seconds after; hard AI; lose 10 drones each time the timer expires

- Diamond: 6 minute grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 60 seconds after; harder AI; lose 12 drones each time the timer expires

- Master: 6 minute grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 45 seconds after; very hard AI; lose 14 drones each time the timer expires

- Grandmaster: 5 minute 45 second grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 30 seconds after; elite AI; lose 16 drones each time the timer expires

- Scoring system: Earn points by creating tumors and receive bonuses for chaining creep tumors without letting the timer expire

[image loading]

Creep or Die! [WCS Daybreak LE] is a modified version of WCS Daybreak LE. I have future changes planned including achievements, additional bonuses, and possibly multiplayer.

PM me or Add me Mythandier.648 with questions.

Cheers, thanks.
dabosaur
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden95 Posts
November 18 2012 21:54 GMT
#2
That's really cool! I'm on the EU side tho so I cant test it =( You could make like a timer which alerts when you when you inject, so you will get into the mindset that every time you inject you should creepspread aswell..? ^^
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
November 19 2012 04:53 GMT
#3
On November 19 2012 06:54 dabosaur wrote:
That's really cool! I'm on the EU side tho so I cant test it =( You could make like a timer which alerts when you when you inject, so you will get into the mindset that every time you inject you should creepspread aswell..? ^^

Good idea. I thought about making an inject focused map as well.

Perhaps I will add in something like that at a later date to this map.

For now, I'd prefer to keep it simple so that players can solely focus on one thing - creep spread.

I'll see what I can do to publish to EU.
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
November 29 2012 04:28 GMT
#4
Update 11/28
- Replaced Easy, Normal, and Hard with Bronze through Grandmaster difficulties
- Each difficulty now sets grace period, # drones destroyed, creep tumor timer, and AI
- Scoring system added
- Moved to Arcade

The following bugs have also been addressed:
- Creep tumors created before the grace period ends no longer cause drones to die
- AI drones won't also be destroyed if the creep tumor timer expires

Future updates will revise the scoring system and add additional bonuses.
RFDaemoniac
Profile Joined September 2011
United States544 Posts
November 29 2012 14:21 GMT
#5
You should talk about this with JaKaTaK, of theStairs. This is Step 0 for zerg players, along with larva inject
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
November 29 2012 15:40 GMT
#6
Woah, cool map, maybe we can get Step 0 of TheStaircase integrated. Thanks for the PM :D
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 17:14:07
November 30 2012 17:13 GMT
#7
On November 30 2012 00:40 JaKaTaK wrote:
Woah, cool map, maybe we can get Step 0 of TheStaircase integrated. Thanks for the PM :D

Hey, thanks! I'm working on integrating Step 0 of TheStaircase as a separate selection from the other game modes.

That, along with a few other additions, should be out before Christmas (hopefully).

Will send PM with more info.
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
December 24 2012 07:02 GMT
#8
I've got a special present for everyone just in time for Christmas!

I have completely overhauled Creep or Die! and have teamed up with The JaKaTaK to add the ability to practice zerg Step 0 of TheStaircase within Creep or Die!

In addition, I've listed all the major new features and changes within the OP. Get into the Arcade and search for "creep or die" to check it out!
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
December 24 2012 07:16 GMT
#9
haha, awesome.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
December 24 2012 16:07 GMT
#10
Well done man. So pumped its finally out! :D
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
December 24 2012 18:37 GMT
#11
Regrettably, I had to take the game down temporarily due to a pretty serious technical issue that popped up.

I'll have it back up before New Year's -- will be out of town for Christmas until then.

Fret not, it shall be up and running again soon!
BerthaG
Profile Joined December 2012
France74 Posts
December 28 2012 07:14 GMT
#12
This is marvelous, it that possible to do the same but for P ? thanks in advance
Never surrender
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
December 29 2012 23:14 GMT
#13
Hi hi hi! Good tidings (ie, news) for all!

I just got back from holiday, patched and republished the map on Americas and will be moving it to EU shortly.

In addition, I cleaned up some of the code so hopefully everything should run smoothly now. Please let me know if you encounter any major issues and, as always, feedback is welcome.

@BerthaG -- I don't have any plans at the moment for a Protoss map but that's not to say it won't ever happen. I highly encourage you to try TheStaircase custom map for Protoss mechanics needs.
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
December 30 2012 05:51 GMT
#14
A few fixes pushed through and published to HotS Beta. Going live on EU within 2 days.
essmarbu
Profile Joined January 2013
Denmark1 Post
January 20 2013 23:30 GMT
#15
Hi, looks super cool this map/mod trainer, but I'm afraid it bugs pretty hard on my computer:
every boks with text or pics says "param/value/xxx" xxx being a series of numbers and letters (looks like a folder path?), in-game, as well as in the starting screen. Hope it's fixable!

cheers from Denmark
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
January 26 2013 04:32 GMT
#16
Hey there essmarbu - thanks for the input.

My EU publisher informed me of the param/value error on the EU version but sadly I haven't had time lately to fix it (as if RL > SC2). Anyway, I'll try to get it fixed soon.

Either that or in the meantime you might try switching to AM server by using Global Play. Not my favorite option so I'll try to get it working in the next couple weeks.
jhm
Profile Joined April 2013
1 Post
April 07 2013 06:05 GMT
#17
I experienced the same param/value problem playing on EU version, tried switching to AM but the param/value problem still showed up, solved it by changing my text language from English (GB) to English (US), had to wait through a 3GB update though.

The problem still shows up trying to play on EU, but at least working for me now on AM.
Anakaris
Profile Joined April 2013
Singapore3 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 06:00:57
April 17 2013 13:45 GMT
#18
I didn't managed to find Creep or Die!. I go to Arcade, then go to the search box on the upper right and key in Creep. Only found 2 games which isn't Creep or Die!. Is there something that I did wrongly?

EDIT: I found a video in youtube for The Staircase Step 0 and Step 1, I realised I can create a custom game just for Step 0. Cool.
ZedraC
Profile Joined February 2011
South Africa109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-03 16:43:45
June 03 2013 15:26 GMT
#19
Hi,

The map shows "PARAM/VALUE/XXXXXXXXX" where the buttons are supposed to be, then ingame you also cannot see what the screen prompts says cause its got that same "PARAM/VALUE/XXXXXXXXX".

Strange...

Edit: Sorry, see it was mentioned above.

Edit2: OMFG now it seem like i have to download the whole god damn US client to play. WTF?

Anybody knows how to stop this?
"What am I supposed to build to kill the things that look like giant dung beetles that eventually show up?" - beginner on battlenet forums. LMAO
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
June 03 2013 18:54 GMT
#20
On June 04 2013 00:26 ZedraC wrote:
Hi,

The map shows "PARAM/VALUE/XXXXXXXXX" where the buttons are supposed to be, then ingame you also cannot see what the screen prompts says cause its got that same "PARAM/VALUE/XXXXXXXXX".

Strange...

Edit: Sorry, see it was mentioned above.

Edit2: OMFG now it seem like i have to download the whole god damn US client to play. WTF?

Anybody knows how to stop this?

Hi, sorry about the problems, I've been busy moving across the U.S. the last months. I will try to fix soon ^^
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 53m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 34337
Calm 11074
GuemChi 731
BeSt 607
actioN 435
ToSsGirL 80
EffOrt 79
Hm[arnc] 69
Backho 41
Soma 39
[ Show more ]
NaDa 36
HiyA 33
JulyZerg 27
sorry 25
GoRush 20
IntoTheRainbow 17
ivOry 15
SilentControl 9
Terrorterran 1
Dota 2
XaKoH 557
NeuroSwarm168
League of Legends
JimRising 603
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1236
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King100
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor219
Other Games
Moletrap3
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream7108
Other Games
gamesdonequick689
ComeBackTV 345
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 24
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 433
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling142
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
53m
RSL Revival
53m
ByuN vs SHIN
Maru vs Krystianer
WardiTV Team League
2h 53m
Patches Events
7h 53m
BSL
10h 53m
GSL
22h 53m
Wardi Open
1d 2h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 7h
OSC
1d 14h
WardiTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.