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Poll added for next map in map pool:
Poll: What map would you like next for this Macro Trainer?Neo Planet S (17) 71% Bel'Shir Vestige (3) 13% Akilon Wastes (1) 4% Whirlwind (1) 4% Red City (1) 4% Other (please comment) (1) 4% Star Station (0) 0% Korhal Sky Island (0) 0% Newkirk Precinct (0) 0% 24 total votes Your vote: What map would you like next for this Macro Trainer? (Vote): Neo Planet S
(Vote): Star Station
(Vote): Bel'Shir Vestige
(Vote): Akilon Wastes
(Vote): Whirlwind
(Vote): Red City
(Vote): Korhal Sky Island
(Vote): Newkirk Precinct
(Vote): Other (please comment)
------------------------ 6/28 Update: ---------------------------
+ Show Spoiler +
- Fixed a bug that was causing Bronze difficulty level to sometimes be as hard as GM
- Readjusted all difficulty levels in Creep or Die! mode as follows:
Bronze: Random -> Very Easy
Silver: Very Easy -> Easy
Gold: Easy ->Medium
Platinum: Medium -> Hard
Diamond: Hard -> Harder
Master: Hard -> Very hard
GM: Very hard -> Elite
Now published to all servers.
Patch History:+ Show Spoiler +--------------------------- Edit: Major patch 6/10/13 ----------------------------------------- This map is now available in the Arcade on the following servers: - Europe - Americas In addition, the following items have been fixed: - AI upgrades now properly reset when the game resets - The game should now reset properly when victory/defeat conditions are met - Current HotS units/data have been implemented ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 12/24/12 The map has been completely overhauled and I've added some fancy new loading screen and title page art: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WZPQk.jpg) In addition, and as you can see from the previous screenshot, I'm pleased to announce that I've teamed up with The JaKaTaK to add in { TheStaircase } Step 0 game mode as well as my original Creep or Die! game mode. + Show Spoiler +Several new features have been added including: - supply blocks can now be enforced - queen energy is now monitored and can be enforced - scoring system revised - a few achievements have been added - several bugs removed - you can now manually reset during the game - new game end screen allows the user to see some game statistics + Show Spoiler +More items will be coming in the future but I'll be taking a break for the holidays.
Please post your feedback and bug reports here. Thanks!
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In the spirit of the old Macro or Die! maps I've decided to create a series (or at least one) Creep or Die! map. The focus of this map is to help mechanically challenged Zerg players focus on spreading that creep! How does the map help them focus on that task you ask? Simple, spread creep or your drones will die!
The map uses melee settings and has the following features:
- Seven difficulty levels:
- Bronze: 7 minute grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 120 seconds after; very easy AI; lose 4 drones each time the timer expires
- Silver: 6 minute 45 second grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 105 seconds after; easy AI; lose 6 drones each time the timer expires
- Gold: 6 minute 30 second grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 90 seconds after; medium AI; lose 8 drones each time the timer expires
- Platinum: 6 minute 15 second grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 75 seconds after; hard AI; lose 10 drones each time the timer expires
- Diamond: 6 minute grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 60 seconds after; harder AI; lose 12 drones each time the timer expires
- Master: 6 minute grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 45 seconds after; very hard AI; lose 14 drones each time the timer expires
- Grandmaster: 5 minute 45 second grace period to macro; build a creep tumor every 30 seconds after; elite AI; lose 16 drones each time the timer expires
- Scoring system: Earn points by creating tumors and receive bonuses for chaining creep tumors without letting the timer expire
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Creep or Die! [WCS Daybreak LE] is a modified version of WCS Daybreak LE. I have future changes planned including achievements, additional bonuses, and possibly multiplayer.
PM me or Add me Mythandier.648 with questions.
Cheers, thanks.
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That's really cool! I'm on the EU side tho so I cant test it =( You could make like a timer which alerts when you when you inject, so you will get into the mindset that every time you inject you should creepspread aswell..? ^^
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On November 19 2012 06:54 dabosaur wrote:
That's really cool! I'm on the EU side tho so I cant test it =( You could make like a timer which alerts when you when you inject, so you will get into the mindset that every time you inject you should creepspread aswell..? ^^
Good idea. I thought about making an inject focused map as well.
Perhaps I will add in something like that at a later date to this map.
For now, I'd prefer to keep it simple so that players can solely focus on one thing - creep spread.
I'll see what I can do to publish to EU.
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Update 11/28
- Replaced Easy, Normal, and Hard with Bronze through Grandmaster difficulties
- Each difficulty now sets grace period, # drones destroyed, creep tumor timer, and AI
- Scoring system added
- Moved to Arcade
The following bugs have also been addressed:
- Creep tumors created before the grace period ends no longer cause drones to die
- AI drones won't also be destroyed if the creep tumor timer expires
Future updates will revise the scoring system and add additional bonuses.
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You should talk about this with JaKaTaK, of theStairs. This is Step 0 for zerg players, along with larva inject 
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Woah, cool map, maybe we can get Step 0 of TheStaircase integrated. Thanks for the PM :D
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On November 30 2012 00:40 JaKaTaK wrote:
Woah, cool map, maybe we can get Step 0 of TheStaircase integrated. Thanks for the PM :D
Hey, thanks! I'm working on integrating Step 0 of TheStaircase as a separate selection from the other game modes.
That, along with a few other additions, should be out before Christmas (hopefully).
Will send PM with more info.
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I've got a special present for everyone just in time for Christmas!
I have completely overhauled Creep or Die! and have teamed up with The JaKaTaK to add the ability to practice zerg Step 0 of TheStaircase within Creep or Die!
In addition, I've listed all the major new features and changes within the OP. Get into the Arcade and search for "creep or die" to check it out!
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Well done man. So pumped its finally out! :D
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Regrettably, I had to take the game down temporarily due to a pretty serious technical issue that popped up.
I'll have it back up before New Year's -- will be out of town for Christmas until then.
Fret not, it shall be up and running again soon!
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This is marvelous, it that possible to do the same but for P ? thanks in advance
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Hi hi hi! Good tidings (ie, news) for all!
I just got back from holiday, patched and republished the map on Americas and will be moving it to EU shortly.
In addition, I cleaned up some of the code so hopefully everything should run smoothly now. Please let me know if you encounter any major issues and, as always, feedback is welcome.
@BerthaG -- I don't have any plans at the moment for a Protoss map but that's not to say it won't ever happen. I highly encourage you to try TheStaircase custom map for Protoss mechanics needs.
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A few fixes pushed through and published to HotS Beta. Going live on EU within 2 days.
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Hi, looks super cool this map/mod trainer, but I'm afraid it bugs pretty hard on my computer:
every boks with text or pics says "param/value/xxx" xxx being a series of numbers and letters (looks like a folder path?), in-game, as well as in the starting screen. Hope it's fixable!
cheers from Denmark
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Hey there essmarbu - thanks for the input.
My EU publisher informed me of the param/value error on the EU version but sadly I haven't had time lately to fix it (as if RL > SC2). Anyway, I'll try to get it fixed soon.
Either that or in the meantime you might try switching to AM server by using Global Play. Not my favorite option so I'll try to get it working in the next couple weeks.
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I experienced the same param/value problem playing on EU version, tried switching to AM but the param/value problem still showed up, solved it by changing my text language from English (GB) to English (US), had to wait through a 3GB update though.
The problem still shows up trying to play on EU, but at least working for me now on AM.
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I didn't managed to find Creep or Die!. I go to Arcade, then go to the search box on the upper right and key in Creep. Only found 2 games which isn't Creep or Die!. Is there something that I did wrongly?
EDIT: I found a video in youtube for The Staircase Step 0 and Step 1, I realised I can create a custom game just for Step 0. Cool.
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Hi,
The map shows "PARAM/VALUE/XXXXXXXXX" where the buttons are supposed to be, then ingame you also cannot see what the screen prompts says cause its got that same "PARAM/VALUE/XXXXXXXXX".
Strange...
Edit: Sorry, see it was mentioned above.
Edit2: OMFG now it seem like i have to download the whole god damn US client to play. WTF?
Anybody knows how to stop this?
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On June 04 2013 00:26 ZedraC wrote:
Hi,
The map shows "PARAM/VALUE/XXXXXXXXX" where the buttons are supposed to be, then ingame you also cannot see what the screen prompts says cause its got that same "PARAM/VALUE/XXXXXXXXX".
Strange...
Edit: Sorry, see it was mentioned above.
Edit2: OMFG now it seem like i have to download the whole god damn US client to play. WTF?
Anybody knows how to stop this?
Hi, sorry about the problems, I've been busy moving across the U.S. the last months. I will try to fix soon ^^
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I want to see TLO play this map!
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I actually think the most important thing (especially for new Zerg players) is larvae injects. How hard would it be to make, or is there a map already that is "inject or die" basically?
I have two Gold league friends that would benefit from that GREATLY.
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@Mistakes
If you do TheStaircase mode, it focuses on learning to spread creep while injecting larva. And you may be surprised how important injects are:
http://ggtracker.com/injects
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I think master is against very hard AI, it was pretty easy for me despite I am only diamond.
Is there a good/bad score? I got 57 creep tumor while having only 10 warnings with enforced queen energy and supply block lol
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OO well, had to download the 3 GB. Not your fault. I think Blizzard should at least warn you about this before you change language.
Gonna try the map out tonight. Thanks for your efforts.
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On June 04 2013 09:07 JaKaTaK wrote:@Mistakes If you do TheStaircase mode, it focuses on learning to spread creep while injecting larva. And you may be surprised how important injects are: http://ggtracker.com/injects
I think you mean unimportant. 
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@Anty
I feel like its still correct. I think he will be surprised as to the amount of importance injects hold. But I do understand what you mean
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Hello. A new version of the map has been released with the following fixes:
- The AI opponent no longer keeps upgrades after the game has been reset
- The game should now reset properly after victory/defeat
- The map has been published to EU server and should (hopefully) not have the param/value issue: Search for Creep or Die in the EU Arcade
- The map has been updated using the latest HotS patch data so all unit data matches that of the current game
Cheers.
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6/28 Update:
- Fixed a bug that was causing Bronze difficulty level to sometimes be as hard as GM
- Readjusted all difficulty levels in Creep or Die! mode as follows:
Bronze: Random -> Very Easy
Silver: Very Easy -> Easy
Gold: Easy ->Medium
Platinum: Medium -> Hard
Diamond: Hard -> Harder
Master: Hard -> Very hard
GM: Very hard -> Elite
Now published to all servers.
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Excellent
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Hello everyone, thanks for all the positive responses on Bnet. I don't have a whole lot of free time but want to keep the map fresh so I'd like to get some input on what map to release next for Creep or Die!.
Please complete the poll if you'd like to have a voice on the next map. I'll go with whatever map has the most votes at the end of July.
Thanks
Poll: What map would you like next for this Macro Trainer?Neo Planet S (17) 71% Bel'Shir Vestige (3) 13% Akilon Wastes (1) 4% Whirlwind (1) 4% Red City (1) 4% Other (please comment) (1) 4% Star Station (0) 0% Korhal Sky Island (0) 0% Newkirk Precinct (0) 0% 24 total votes Your vote: What map would you like next for this Macro Trainer? (Vote): Neo Planet S
(Vote): Star Station
(Vote): Bel'Shir Vestige
(Vote): Akilon Wastes
(Vote): Whirlwind
(Vote): Red City
(Vote): Korhal Sky Island
(Vote): Newkirk Precinct
(Vote): Other (please comment)
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3 days left to vote and only 3 votes with 4,500 thread views...I know you guys can do better!
And even with poor voting turnout, I'm still going to put out new maps for the loyal few.
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its tough because this thread hasn't been very active. I put in my vote though!
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I just discovered Creep or Die! and the staircase method. It has made a big difference for me. I'm a gold level zerg and went on a streak where I won 9 of 10 games right after discovering this and using your custom map. It's a great tool. I've gotten my creep all the way to their natural in a couple of ladder games.
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Congrats Ender! Glad to see you're enjoying both
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