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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On November 07 2013 11:24 EatThePath wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/T58Ez9S.jpg) Result of a brainstorm tonight on open naturals and forward defendability at narrow areas. And tries to have spread out bases... after the first three and a half. kind of like this. the third is far too safe for my liking though. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On November 07 2013 23:50 a176 wrote: kind of like this. the third is far too safe for my liking though. How would you change it? I wanted it to be pretty safe after having to potentially scrum over the natural which doesn't have the typical 9 square choke. But I kind of agree. Move it clockwise further down the access path from the plateau, away from the natural? Add a path from the lowground outside edge? Make it cliffable from the lowground outside edge? On November 07 2013 21:59 ConCentrate405 wrote: Sad to know that it was already been tested... even sadder that it didn't work... On the brightside, having a lava map on the pool for RedBull/TLMC is a tell that maybe now some triggers and regions are acceptable on melee maps, as long as you don't make some crazy arcade stuff and only emulate the basic game mechanics. Hmmm horizons are expanding... time for a slightly different aproach on my map. Hey, I'm glad there is still creativity and new thoughts in the scene.  | ||
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Vicissitude
Sweden28 Posts
On November 08 2013 03:12 EatThePath wrote: Hey, I'm glad there is still creativity and new thoughts in the scene. That is always extremely welcome, creativity will always shine. More on topic, I do like how your map is structured, or at least what I can see from the image. Maps do always seem to tight and crammed when I look at them this way though, and I'd like to try this one out with a friend, if possible. Is this map uploaded on any server or it's only your local creation thus far? | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On November 08 2013 03:31 Vicissitude wrote: That is always extremely welcome, creativity will always shine. More on topic, I do like how your map is structured, or at least what I can see from the image. Maps do always seem to tight and crammed when I look at them this way though, and I'd like to try this one out with a friend, if possible. Is this map uploaded on any server or it's only your local creation thus far? It's on NA, I'll put it on EU for you. It will probably seem much more open in game. ^^ | ||
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Vicissitude
Sweden28 Posts
On November 08 2013 04:06 EatThePath wrote: It's on NA, I'll put it on EU for you. It will probably seem much more open in game. ^^ Yes, that is most often the case! Thanks a bunch. What is the map called? | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On November 08 2013 04:28 Vicissitude wrote: Yes, that is most often the case! Thanks a bunch. What is the map called? Oh, lol... sorry. It's called "open nat 1 wip". | ||
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Vicissitude
Sweden28 Posts
On November 08 2013 05:05 EatThePath wrote: Oh, lol... sorry. It's called "open nat 1 wip". Thanks again. | ||
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RFDaemoniac
United States544 Posts
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MarcusRife
343 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3Bp0qXr.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/9tN09n9.png) | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
@RFD: That's a good idea, I'll try it. | ||
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MarcusRife
343 Posts
On November 09 2013 04:31 EatThePath wrote: @Marcus: Why the double size main ramp? I don't see the point and you already have a back door anyway which adds vulnerability. . It wasn't meant to create vulnerability. I think putting a single wide ramp hurts the defender more than it helps them. When trying to move to cover the back door it would be annoying to have to pass through a single wide choke. I will take your suggestions under consideration I think many of them will improve the map. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
On November 09 2013 06:13 MarcusRife wrote: It wasn't meant to create vulnerability. I think putting a single wide ramp hurts the defender more than it helps them. When trying to move to cover the back door it would be annoying to have to pass through a single wide choke. I will take your suggestions under consideration I think many of them will improve the map. Well, not that we've seen it recently but really early all ins are much stronger on a wider ramp. For example, I think protoss just dies to some early barracks attacks unless they preemptively play in such a way as to handle them, which immediately puts them behind if the terran isn't doing such an attack. But I couldn't say for sure. It also makes early pools much much stronger. etc. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YfAnEsi.jpg) Rotated the 3rd base so the mineral line is vulnerable from the cliff, and added a pathway below it connecting to the outside lowground. Added an overlord pod near the natural. | ||
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MarcusRife
343 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Q9XGmed.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KzS5Z27.png) I tried the skygeir cliffs as suggested. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HCx59RU.jpg) | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
I liked the towers better in the old location, especially now that you have 3 bases clustered in the corner all guarded by the new tower. If you lower the cliff levels, you might be able to do something interesting with highground at the corner platform. | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
-Emphasize/exaggerate the spread-out base layout of the original, making it more BW-ish. -Discourage turtling on any number of bases (except 2 maybe) - the distance you must cover and defend always increases dramatically with each new base taken. (Also effectively solves the original's potential split-map problem) -Make the 3rds far but not too difficult to be taken -Enable multiple expansion patterns - the fact that most expansions are approximately equidistant from each other means that 2 bases on each side (1/7 and 2/8) are effectively neutral and could be taken by either player. Even the 3rds are a choice - P and T will probably take the choked 12/6 bases but Z has the option of taking 2/8. Circle syndrome exists as a result, but should be partially nullified by the fact that each base is further than normal from the adjacent bases. -Emphasize alternating chokes and open spaces - still working on this one, I'd like to make the chokes even more chokey and the open areas even more open. For instance I'm considering removing some (or all) of the destructible rocks and simply making those ramps narrower, and/or messing with the proportions in front of the 2/8 bases, but idk exactly what to do yet. Overall the layout is very standard, but I wanted to test how these more spread-out proportions would work on an otherwise ordinary map before making something a bit more unique. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7h29u4e.jpg) Angled: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3vwTECY.jpg) | ||
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Aircooled
United States79 Posts
I've been trying to make a semi island map for a litttle while now and recently came up with this; not sure if I should open up the middle path or keep it how it is. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wvHYUPX.jpg) | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
On my map I think I'll try changing 4 of the rocked triple ramps to single ramps but keeping the center ones triple with rocks, to keep the option of effectively flanking an army in the central corridor once the rocks are down. | ||
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QsKJLIT.jpg) I think it highlights the highground pods even more, which seems to be the focus around which the open/choke dynamics build tension. | ||
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