@SwedenTheKid Like in a lot of rotational maps there are extreme imbalances in taking a 3rd. The lowground counter-clockwise third is incredibly hard to defend and much closer to your opponent than the high ground clockwise third.

moskonia

Israel1448 Posts

December 13 2014 12:35 GMT

#2782

3rd bases are too close to each other to allow for macro games, probably.

SwedenTheKid

567 Posts

December 14 2014 04:51 GMT

#2783

Worth working with or just scrap?

moskonia

Israel1448 Posts

December 14 2014 10:24 GMT

#2784

What are the playable bounds? It feels so small for a 3 player map. Catallena is 164x164. and Merry Go Round is 160x166, and they are both not considered to be big maps compared to 2 and 4 player maps..

SwedenTheKid

567 Posts

December 14 2014 10:31 GMT

#2785

Like 160x160, but I would have to check for exact value

JaredStarr

Canada115 Posts

December 15 2014 18:54 GMT

#2786

"JS Anxiety Arena"

Probably going to be adding a path from the Natural to the base near the edge of the map. Put a ramp in the 'red' space to have it wrap around with rocks.

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Center Choke and Xel'Naga's:
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OtherWorld

France17333 Posts

December 15 2014 19:06 GMT

#2787

Main is literally Blink City (and looks too small as well), there is no need for four bases in such a small space (just remove the base just beneath the natural ramp tbh - but then you need to add a viable fourth) and it looks like you can siege the main mineral line from the low-ground, which will probably prove to be a heavily broken feature. I like what you did with the natural though, having the wall choke not directly at the top of the ramp. Overall the proportions don't look too off, maybe the map is a bit big?

Mahavishnu

Canada396 Posts

December 15 2014 19:27 GMT

#2788

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My suggestions based on my thoughts and OtherWorld's....

JaredStarr

Canada115 Posts

December 15 2014 19:30 GMT

#2789

This was an obvious tweak, will update the map.

If anyone can get some plays on it, let me know how it plays out that would be awesome.

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SwedenTheKid

567 Posts

December 16 2014 04:15 GMT

#2790

Bounds 184x184

The_Templar

your Country52797 Posts

December 16 2014 04:22 GMT

#2791

If you spawn counterclockwise you pretty much have to take a forward third, whereas the other player can protect his third really easily.

SwedenTheKid

567 Posts

December 16 2014 04:53 GMT

#2792

Better? counterclockwise also gets a ramp to defend.

JaredStarr

Canada115 Posts

December 16 2014 07:06 GMT

#2793

Spent the day testing and fixing. I considered removing one of the low ground thirds but I can't quite justify it yet.

(* Extra path to Nat)
* Backdoor cliffs now require you to destroy debris prior to jumping up the cliffs.
* Removed space behind mineral line that could be sieged.

-NegativeZero-

United States2142 Posts

December 16 2014 07:40 GMT

#2794

@SwedenTheKid: you can move the counterclockwise 3rds closer to the mains - they don't have to be so far away that blink is literally impossible at all points. This will help increase the distance between the forward 3rds.

JaredStarr

Canada115 Posts

December 16 2014 20:19 GMT

#2795

Made the main not so blink friendly.

** You can still get into the main in a single blink from one section of the backdoor cliff which will likely need to be fixed to at least require 2 blinks without destroying debris.
** Also will be pulling the borders in behind the main to close out the dead airspace.

Extra Info

Bounds: 192x224
Main to Main: 58 Seconds
Nat to Nat (Choke above ramp): 50 Seconds

The_Templar

your Country52797 Posts

December 16 2014 20:25 GMT

#2796

192x224? That is actually huge, are you sure those are the correct distances?

OtherWorld

France17333 Posts

December 16 2014 20:45 GMT

#2797

How do you manage to get 50 seconds of nat-nat with 192x224? d:
And the very close third still feels unnecessary to me

JaredStarr

Canada115 Posts

December 16 2014 21:22 GMT

#2798

It is a pretty big map forsure. I got the fast rush time with the middle choke point.

@Otherworld: You gotta try it out, the third at the nat ramp isn't as easy as it comes off. I've only got play time in with silver-plat players though so It's not out of the question to take it out.

Xenotolerance

United States464 Posts

December 16 2014 22:29 GMT

#2799

new one, rough layout. inspired by king sejong station. open to ideas