• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:59
CEST 11:59
KST 18:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo14Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th J188 – Nhà Cái Cá Cược Trực Tuyến Đẳng Cấp Châu Á Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes?
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) GSL CK #4 20-21th June Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed BW General Discussion
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia {D-2} Late to making 20.06.2026 memorable [p]94718
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13311 users

[M] (2) Gehenna

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
ScorpSCII
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark499 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 08:16:47
August 14 2012 13:50 GMT
#1
[image loading]
[image loading]

Uploaded to [NA] [EU]

Ratings and Reviews: SC2Melee.net


[image loading]
(Top-down Overview)

Aesthetics
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


Details
Spawns: 2
Playable Bounds: 164x108
Bases: 12 (2 halfbases)
Main2Main: ~67s

Please leave a comment, all feedback is appreciated.
Mapmaker | Author of Atlas, Rao Mesa & Paralda
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
August 14 2012 14:07 GMT
#2
Haven't played this yet but at first glance you should swap the sizes of the ramps to the centre high ground bases. At the moment the attacker comes through the larger ramp and the defender has to go through a smaller choke to defend. I'll have a play later and give better feedback.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
RumbleBadger
Profile Joined July 2011
322 Posts
August 14 2012 15:42 GMT
#3
Gameplay looks very unique. Also aesthetics look awesome. Great work!
Games before dames.
Callynn
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands917 Posts
August 14 2012 16:00 GMT
#4
I played a test match and added comment in the review section of your map, rated it 3/5. Read the full review online and good luck with polishing the map!
Comparing BW with SCII is like comparing a beautiful three-master sailing ship with a modern battlecruiser. Both are beautiful in their own way, both perform the same task, but they are worlds apart in how they are built and how they are steered.
ScorpSCII
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark499 Posts
August 15 2012 06:08 GMT
#5
On August 14 2012 23:07 Yonnua wrote:
Haven't played this yet but at first glance you should swap the sizes of the ramps to the centre high ground bases. At the moment the attacker comes through the larger ramp and the defender has to go through a smaller choke to defend. I'll have a play later and give better feedback.

On August 15 2012 00:42 RumbleBadger wrote:
Gameplay looks very unique. Also aesthetics look awesome. Great work!

On August 15 2012 01:00 Callynn wrote:
I played a test match and added comment in the review section of your map, rated it 3/5. Read the full review online and good luck with polishing the map!


Thank you
Mapmaker | Author of Atlas, Rao Mesa & Paralda
VictorJones
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States235 Posts
August 15 2012 06:12 GMT
#6
Liking those realistic bridges. It looks rather nice
Insomni7
Profile Joined June 2011
667 Posts
August 15 2012 06:30 GMT
#7
Interesting layout, I though of something similar once but there is the obvious problem that it makes your main and natural actually closer and more vulnerable than your third is. However since your main-nat-third layout is more at an angle you push the third forward a bit making things not so bad. There are great ideas behind this map. If I had one wish, I would ask that there was less of a choke between the main and the high ground base, and possibly that this area wasn't high ground; this would help with weakening contains and give more viable flanking options to combat the high ground strength of many armies.
Never Forget.
Syphon8
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 11:40:16
August 15 2012 11:35 GMT
#8
I can't test it (on NA), but I think that a Stalker or Sentry placed on the high ground can grant vision into the main for Blink/Warpin.

Right here:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also test a Photon Cannon placed there, as they have longer vision range than Stalkers/Sentries.

Aside from that, I like the layout and the aesthetics theme, but think the cliff shapes need to be redone. The back of the fourths and mains, for instance, have way too many straight lines.

Also, the openness seems to be too low.
',:/
Shanyo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium70 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 12:08:48
August 15 2012 12:08 GMT
#9
I'm gonna try it soon ;-). Third has a lot of attack paths it seems o.o!
I'm all creeped out
ScorpSCII
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark499 Posts
August 15 2012 14:40 GMT
#10
On August 15 2012 15:30 Insomni7 wrote:
Interesting layout, I though of something similar once but there is the obvious problem that it makes your main and natural actually closer and more vulnerable than your third is. However since your main-nat-third layout is more at an angle you push the third forward a bit making things not so bad. There are great ideas behind this map. If I had one wish, I would ask that there was less of a choke between the main and the high ground base, and possibly that this area wasn't high ground; this would help with weakening contains and give more viable flanking options to combat the high ground strength of many armies.

I am still playing around with that area, so changes might be made in the future.

On August 15 2012 20:35 Syphon8 wrote:
I can't test it (on NA), but I think that a Stalker or Sentry placed on the high ground can grant vision into the main for Blink/Warpin.

Right here:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Also test a Photon Cannon placed there, as they have longer vision range than Stalkers/Sentries.

Aside from that, I like the layout and the aesthetics theme, but think the cliff shapes need to be redone. The back of the fourths and mains, for instance, have way too many straight lines.

Also, the openness seems to be too low.

Not possible
And yea, I'll fix up the fourth. Should not be much of a problem with the main, since it's manmade.
Mapmaker | Author of Atlas, Rao Mesa & Paralda
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
August 15 2012 16:55 GMT
#11
Well done on the aesthetics! I am a little unsure about the center bases as far as ramp placement goes, as well as the ramp sizes, but I think it's just going to need to be play tested thoroughly to really know if the center bases are good or not.
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 3561
Shuttle 671
Hyuk 533
Horang2 462
Larva 313
PianO 170
actioN 150
Soma 137
Zeus 114
Leta 111
[ Show more ]
Sharp 104
Killer 95
ToSsGirL 74
ggaemo 54
NotJumperer 33
Sacsri 25
HiyA 25
Aegong 21
Shine 15
JulyZerg 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
yabsab 10
League of Legends
JimRising 462
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1232
Other Games
KnowMe183
RuFF_SC239
Trikslyr21
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream4832
Other Games
gamesdonequick782
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 60
• Sammyuel 21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1746
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1h 1m
GSL
2h 1m
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
IPSL
6h 1m
Bonyth vs Dewalt
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
9h 1m
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
14h 1m
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 1h
GSL
1d 2h
IPSL
1d 6h
Hawk vs Julia
Patches Events
1d 7h
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 9h
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
1d 14h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
Douyu Cup 2020
5 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light HT
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.