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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 21:50:49
July 12 2012 21:07 GMT
#1
There seems to be a weird bug on this specific version of Metropolis. The pylon power radius is not accurately displayed.

I've uploaded screen shots of it:

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Note the pylon is not in the center of the power circle:
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(Many more available here: http://imageshack.us/g/204/screenshot2012071216190.jpg/
imgur gallery here: http://chargelot.imgur.com/TSL4_Metropolis#0 )

I could NOT repeat this bug on Metropolis LE
I CAN replicate this bug on MLG Metropolis and GSL Metropolis.
I am NOT able to test this on other servers.

edit: images/links changed to imageshack.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 12 2012 21:09 GMT
#2
reupload your images on imgur.
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 21:09:56
July 12 2012 21:09 GMT
#3
On July 13 2012 06:09 iGrok wrote:
reupload your images on imgur.

imgur failed to upload >5 times per image even when disabling addons.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 12 2012 21:10 GMT
#4
then upload somewhere that lets us see the images, because right now I don't see anything
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
July 12 2012 21:11 GMT
#5
On July 13 2012 06:10 iGrok wrote:
then upload somewhere that lets us see the images, because right now I don't see anything

Weird, I can see them all even when hotlinked. Working on it!
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
July 12 2012 21:13 GMT
#6
Would this be at all related to the missing supply depots?
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
July 12 2012 21:16 GMT
#7
On July 13 2012 06:10 iGrok wrote:
then upload somewhere that lets us see the images, because right now I don't see anything

I've changed everything to imageshack.us. Still retrying imgur!
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 12 2012 21:20 GMT
#8
hmm...

Does this happen everywhere on the map or just in that/particular spots?
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 21:26:14
July 12 2012 21:24 GMT
#9
On July 13 2012 06:20 iGrok wrote:
hmm...

Does this happen everywhere on the map or just in that/particular spots?

I've determined now it only occurs on the lowest cliff level. It doesn't happen on the main/natural level, but once you go down any ramp to the 3rd level the pylon power radius indicator is off as displayed in these screenshots. This includes both islands. Depending on how you move the pylon, you can get it to be a little off to the left/right, but the center of the radius is always a few cells up from the pylon.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 12 2012 21:27 GMT
#10
On July 13 2012 06:24 Chargelot wrote:
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On July 13 2012 06:20 iGrok wrote:
hmm...

Does this happen everywhere on the map or just in that/particular spots?

I've determined now it only occurs on the lowest cliff level. It doesn't happen on the main/natural level, but once you go down any ramp to the 3rd level the pylon power radius indicator is off as displayed in these screenshots. This includes both islands. Depending on how you move the pylon, you can get it to be a little off to the left/right, but the center of the radius is always a few cells up from the pylon.

I'd say its a height issue, but I have no idea why TSL would change the base map height.
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 21:35:56
July 12 2012 21:35 GMT
#11
On July 13 2012 06:27 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 06:24 Chargelot wrote:
On July 13 2012 06:20 iGrok wrote:
hmm...

Does this happen everywhere on the map or just in that/particular spots?

I've determined now it only occurs on the lowest cliff level. It doesn't happen on the main/natural level, but once you go down any ramp to the 3rd level the pylon power radius indicator is off as displayed in these screenshots. This includes both islands. Depending on how you move the pylon, you can get it to be a little off to the left/right, but the center of the radius is always a few cells up from the pylon.

I'd say its a height issue, but I have no idea why TSL would change the base map height.

If you can, could you check the NA version of the map? So we know if it's exclusive to the EU copy of the map.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 12 2012 21:38 GMT
#12
I can't for a few hours, at work.

Try PMing Plexa, if he hasn't already read this he needs to anyways
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 21:49:05
July 12 2012 21:43 GMT
#13
On July 13 2012 06:38 iGrok wrote:
I can't for a few hours, at work.

Try PMing Plexa, if he hasn't already read this he needs to anyways

Done. It should be noted that I cannot replicate this on TSL4 Cloud Kingdom, TSL4 Antiga Shipyard, or TSL4 Entombed Valley Cloaked. It appears like this is map specific, and not an overall TSL4 map problem.

Ah! It doesn't occur on Metropolis LE, but it DOES occur on MLG Metropolis AND GSL Metropolis!
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Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
July 12 2012 22:08 GMT
#14
It looks as if the power is floating above the ground at the height of the top of the pylon. What does it look like zoomed it?
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 22:15:24
July 12 2012 22:14 GMT
#15
On July 13 2012 07:08 Gfire wrote:
It looks as if the power is floating above the ground at the height of the top of the pylon. What does it look like zoomed it?

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That is exactly what it happening. The power indicator is floating above the entire pylon itself.

Compare to the standard:
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This seems to confirm iGrok's height issue theory.
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Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
July 12 2012 22:15 GMT
#16
How do you display photon canon range? :O
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 22:20:41
July 12 2012 22:19 GMT
#17
On July 13 2012 07:15 Superouman wrote:
How do you display photon canon range? :O

It may just be higher graphics settings. I can see that ring for cannons, spines, spores, and turrets when I'm building them, but not once they're done. And of course siege tanks when they're in siege mode and friendly.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 12 2012 22:29 GMT
#18
Yeah, I think thats the base map height issue.
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Lysergic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States355 Posts
July 12 2012 22:33 GMT
#19
Your screenshots showing the cannon placements aren't mirrors of each other. The cannon in top pic is one hex left, while the bottom cannon is shifted 3 hex's left.

Pylon range always doesn't display range correctly, but is the same on every map. Show screenshots with identical placements on the map you claim is bugged and a regular map.
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 22:39:26
July 12 2012 22:37 GMT
#20
On July 13 2012 07:33 lysergic wrote:
Your screenshots showing the cannon placements aren't mirrors of each other. The cannon in top pic is one hex left, while the bottom cannon is shifted 3 hex's left.

Pylon range always doesn't display range correctly, but is the same on every map. Show screenshots with identical placements on the map you claim is bugged and a regular map.

These are all pictures from the same pylon, on the same map, without ever leaving the game. It is pretty clear that the power radius is not centered around the pylon, and it's since been discovered that the problem is that the power radius indicator is floating above the pylon, and not below it, making it look off from our angled view of it.

The fact that I can power a cannon with 1/2 of 1 box of pylon power should be what you see is wrong. The fact that a cannon being 100% covered but not powered is what you should see is wrong. Please read the thread, inspect the images, and come to some very basic understanding of what is going on here before you try to claim it's not bugged/wrong.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 12 2012 22:55 GMT
#21
Super weird, TSL uses the GSL metropolis version (hence why all the other versions have issues as well). Renaming the thread accordingly.
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 22:59:06
July 12 2012 22:58 GMT
#22
On July 13 2012 07:55 Plexa wrote:
Super weird, TSL uses the GSL metropolis version (hence why all the other versions have issues as well). Renaming the thread accordingly.

Thanks for rename. Had only compared it to LE before making the thread, which doesn't have the same issue. Will anything be done before the TSL4 main event?
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Guardian85
Profile Joined May 2012
162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 21:09:21
July 13 2012 02:25 GMT
#23
iGrok busted it on first shot... i've tried experimenting with base map height of 32 a while back
It messes up everything of its natural range.
Like for instance a voidray would need to actually fly ontop of a colossus to start fireing DOWN on it..
The base map height changes the perspective in the X and Y but not the Z... or the oposite (changes Z but not X and Y) so the depth is much more then it appears.

With out sounding all to over confident... thats atleast my experience.
ThetrueSmug
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia14 Posts
July 13 2012 03:11 GMT
#24
it seems everyday theres something wrong with this map
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monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2408 Posts
July 13 2012 04:45 GMT
#25
Just drop it, the map sucks anyway!

In all seriousness, this is a weird bug. Only thing I can think is that they manually lowered all of the map (I can't imagine they just lowered the middle lowground, I think I would have noticed). Blizzard would definitely level it/revert it to normal when they put it into ladder.
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ZeratuLsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada426 Posts
July 13 2012 19:51 GMT
#26
On July 13 2012 13:45 monitor wrote:
Blizzard would definitely level it/revert it to normal when they put it into ladder.


Please tell me this map isn't going into ladder -.-
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
July 13 2012 20:03 GMT
#27
On July 14 2012 04:51 Hellfury wrote:
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On July 13 2012 13:45 monitor wrote:
Blizzard would definitely level it/revert it to normal when they put it into ladder.


Please tell me this map isn't going into ladder -.-

It has already been in the ladder, and the ladder edition didn't/doesn't have this problem. They are removing/fixing frame rate dropping textures, and then it will return someday.
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