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Semmo
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)627 Posts
July 09 2012 00:14 GMT
#21
Question: So in the 2nd round, to say, all pros can choose one map, hence 12 maps will be chosen?
Mapmaker of Frost, Fruitland and Bridgehead
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 09 2012 00:32 GMT
#22
Yes that is correct
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 09 2012 00:41 GMT
#23
But will all the maps be chosen? I don't quite get the format.
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Coppermantis
Profile Joined June 2012
United States845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 00:45:33
July 09 2012 00:44 GMT
#24
Each pro selects a single map from the submitted map pool. If a Pro selects a map made by Amateur A then any other maps by A are removed from the pool. If there is a conflict (Multiple pros selecting the same map or, I assume, multiple maps by the same amateur being selected) then the pro higher up on the list will get priority.

At the end of the day there will be twelve maps selected, each by a different person.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 09 2012 07:06 GMT
#25
On July 09 2012 09:41 TehTemplar wrote:
But will all the maps be chosen? I don't quite get the format.

Each pro will select one map only. Selections are done in the order generated in the OP.
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
July 09 2012 07:30 GMT
#26
On July 08 2012 10:11 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 09:38 TehTemplar wrote:
On July 07 2012 09:58 FlaShFTW wrote:
On July 07 2012 09:33 monitor wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:36 WniO wrote:
so what the hell are people like me supposed to do with this?


If you don't fall under the pro category, then you are free to submit maps (I think). I believe all of the invites for pros went out, and we don't need more than what we've got at the moment. Sorry that we didn't let you know.

damn it. i wonder how far down the waiting list i am probs at the very bottom xD

Nahh, you're above me.

*Checks the list*

Actually, neither of you are on here...

Wait a sec, neither is Superouman...

Something's not right here...

What maps has Orange Juice made?

...

This is my grocery list.


For some reason I read that last line with the old spice commercial voice ...
KCCO!
Guardian85
Profile Joined May 2012
162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 00:46:00
July 09 2012 21:29 GMT
#27
Good luck to all the ametures, and may the best maps win
And thanks to all the pro's who are willingly participating and taking their time to share knowledge and experience.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
July 13 2012 18:48 GMT
#28
Why couldn't there be more pros ? I feel like with so many submissions out there there definitely is room for other ones (like me :'( )
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
HypertonicHydroponic
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
437 Posts
July 13 2012 18:51 GMT
#29
On July 14 2012 03:48 ArcticRaven wrote:
Why couldn't there be more pros ? I feel like with so many submissions out there there definitely is room for other ones (like me :'( )

I'll let you be one of the pros if you pick one of my maps. XD XD XD
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Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
July 13 2012 18:54 GMT
#30
They should allow freelance pros who are not officially selected, but can still pick a map from the left over amateur pool if the amateur is willing, and then together post the map for official judging.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
July 13 2012 18:56 GMT
#31
Yeah that would be good to see
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
HypertonicHydroponic
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
437 Posts
July 13 2012 18:59 GMT
#32
On July 14 2012 03:54 Sea_Food wrote:
They should allow freelance pros who are not officially selected, but can still pick a map from the left over amateur pool if the amateur is willing, and then together post the map for official judging.

I applaud the thought process behind this idea. I officially jump onto this bandwagon.
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Fearlezz
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia176 Posts
July 13 2012 19:58 GMT
#33
On July 14 2012 03:54 Sea_Food wrote:
They should allow freelance pros who are not officially selected, but can still pick a map from the left over amateur pool if the amateur is willing, and then together post the map for official judging.

That's actually a very good idea. They would have to start picking maps after all the officially selected pros have announced theirs in the thread and go by "first come(post) first served" rule. If organizers agree of course.
Guardian85
Profile Joined May 2012
162 Posts
July 13 2012 20:58 GMT
#34
Credability is credability.. if someone who's not officially selected.. wouldnt that comprimize the credability for other pros?
I see conflict in the distance.
Fearlezz
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia176 Posts
July 13 2012 21:03 GMT
#35
If the end result is good how is that a bad thing?
HypertonicHydroponic
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
437 Posts
July 13 2012 21:06 GMT
#36
The credability is on the list that says they are "pro" for the sake of this tournament, which renders them unable to participate in the initial mapmaking submission. I think the point is that it is a lot of wasted talent to just sit on the sideline and cheer instead of either A) submitting a map for consideration, or B) helping to improve another's map. If they are good enough not to submit, they should be good enough to help a map improve, no?
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Guardian85
Profile Joined May 2012
162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 21:17:33
July 13 2012 21:15 GMT
#37
Well that sounds a little black and white to me..
Where from my understanding.. what your saying as "pro"
I find a difference between "not amateur".. and "pro".. atleast thats what i got out of it.

So i belive that theres something inbetween.. like the good old Elder scrolls ranks.
Novice, Journeyman, Adept, Expert and Master. where maybe master is "pro". and Novice is amateur.

atleast i dont think its easy to just put a whole lot of different talents into the same group.
HypertonicHydroponic
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
437 Posts
July 13 2012 21:50 GMT
#38
There may be some on the "not amature" list who are not as proficient as those who were chosen, but if they are on the list they still should reasonably have something to offer an amature. The contest is to improve an amature map from someone with the right know how. If a "not amature" has enough of the right know how not to submit an amature map, they should have something to over an amature map by way of improvement. Whether or not they have the talent to win ought to be up to the judges. If the only people who have a shadow of a chance are the ones on the officially approved "pro" list (from this thread), then one of them is going to win anyway. But I see no reason why someone like ArcticRaven should be barred from volunteering his time to help another mapper improve a map just because he wasn't a top pick. If the amature learns something from him in the process, then it's a win situation even if the improved map doesn't win the contest (or come close).

The only negative I can see really is if an non-picked "not amature" picks a map, contacts the amature, and the amature rejects the offer. But, I'm not sure how likely this is to happen since Ragoo has already been selected as a pro. XD XD XD
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ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
July 13 2012 22:11 GMT
#39
Well it has collateral damage : it makes for more maps to judge
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 13 2012 22:15 GMT
#40
If you don't like not being one of the pros, please contact monitor at monitor@monitor.monitor
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