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ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 22:36:29
May 20 2012 17:27 GMT
#1
Hello everyone ! It's been a while since I published something, but I feel this map is worth your attention. The map borrows its name from this song. Without further ado :

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Rush distance is 166 main to main, 139 nat to nat.

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Billy the Ultralisk wants some lings for dinner (and purple zerg (me) has horrible spending D: )

Comments welcome ! But I'm not touching again the aesthetics, they took me a month and a half -_____-.
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
May 20 2012 17:36 GMT
#2
I think you need to fix the lighting on this. It's neat, but it's very... emphasized. I think it's a little too strong.
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Bango
Profile Joined April 2011
United States106 Posts
May 20 2012 17:47 GMT
#3
so large o.o.... i feel as though any game on this map would take at shortest 30min. which is okay if that is your goal O:
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PandaZerg
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada148 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 17:52:21
May 20 2012 17:48 GMT
#4
10/10 on first look!

Will be published on NA servers?
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
May 20 2012 17:50 GMT
#5
came here because of the name. nice inspiration!!

map looks cool, but im worried its too dark for minimap?
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 20 2012 19:18 GMT
#6
On May 21 2012 02:27 ArcticRaven wrote:
Comments welcome ! But I'm not touching again the aesthetics, they took me a month and a half -_____-.

I offered to do them for you, those mains(and the other similar bases) look so chaotic, like Atlantis Spaceship all over again.
I could still do it, you know. I wouldn't touch the rock texturing at all, I promise
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Samcai
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium58 Posts
May 20 2012 19:51 GMT
#7
Really nice look. I'm amazed o_O
Syphon8
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada298 Posts
May 20 2012 21:02 GMT
#8
This is by far the best looking map I've ever seen.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10193 Posts
May 20 2012 21:19 GMT
#9
really interesting concept. you can expand to the south and risk being closer to your enemy, or expand upwards and risk being caught out of position.
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PandaZerg
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada148 Posts
May 20 2012 21:53 GMT
#10
will you be able to upload this map on NA servers?
I want to play it so much!
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
May 20 2012 22:26 GMT
#11
Is that a semi-island expo in the top left corner? Very interesting inclusion.
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ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 22:35:57
May 20 2012 22:31 GMT
#12
I think you need to fix the lighting on this. It's neat, but it's very... emphasized. I think it's a little too strong.


What do you suggest ? I've had similar feedback from my friends who played it (Playing in a dark room => gg eyes :D), so I tuned the exposure down. What do you think I should touch ?

so large o.o.... i feel as though any game on this map would take at shortest 30min. which is okay if that is your goal O:


Actually, it has a shorter rush distance than any ladder map excluding Shakuras close ^^

Will be published on NA servers?


Of course it will It should be up tomorrow.

really interesting concept. you can expand to the south and risk being closer to your enemy, or expand upwards and risk being caught out of position.


I think it has a lot to do with chokiness too. The lowground b3 has an open ground before it, making it very defensible as zerg, while the highground one is rather choky. With that and the closer expo it makes the map play very differently in different matchups.

I offered to do them for you, those mains(and the other similar bases) look so chaotic, like Atlantis Spaceship all over again.
I could still do it, you know. I wouldn't touch the rock texturing at all, I promise


Don't touch my baby ! Those textures are my very flesh and bones now ^____^ A bit more doodads could help though, there are some rather empty spaces I feel. Oh and <3333 Atlantis.

And also thanks to everybody (Panda, Reptilia, Syphon) who says the aesthetics are good People like you keep me working, glad to see it pays off and you like it. As for the name, Reptilia... I feel Dark Shines is way too underrated. It's complex, powerful, and catchy. So I never miss an occasion to tell people it's my favorite song from Origin Of Symmetry

Edit :

Is that a semi-island expo in the top left corner? Very interesting inclusion.


Actually it's a full island. I see it as some kind of hidden expo you never check and/or lategame bait for positional play. It has been taken surprisingly often by my terran testers.
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
sathin
Profile Joined April 2012
United States46 Posts
May 20 2012 23:34 GMT
#13
This map looks amazing so much going for it wouldnt favor any race would be great for macro games and the map forces decisions as far as where to expand and everything i could see so much variety on this map i really hope it gets a lot of attention
erazerr
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia86 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 02:17:55
May 21 2012 02:16 GMT
#14
one of the best looking maps ive ever seen.. awesome colour scheme
PandaZerg
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada148 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 06:40:56
May 21 2012 03:44 GMT
#15
On May 21 2012 11:16 erazerr wrote:
one of the best looking maps ive ever seen.. awesome colour scheme

Same! Beat TRON map at first look.
Hope you will win motm...
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
May 21 2012 09:13 GMT
#16
I hope too :D
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
May 21 2012 14:55 GMT
#17
This map looks really great.
The only thing that I don't like is the light/dark checkered tile in the bases. There was a map with a similar design and I remember that it was quite distracting and a bit hard to really see light structues (like Protoss buildings) well against the lighter parts of the 'floor'. I think it's too much contrast on the 'floor' which takes away contrast between buildings and 'floor'. I'm not sure wether or not I have really expressed myself clearly here.

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The contrast between the black metal parts and the light stone parts is a bit too strong in my opinion.
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ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 16:52:52
May 21 2012 16:52 GMT
#18
People playing the map didn't complain about that. Everybody told me it was going to me a problem, but it didn't trun out that way.

I'm going to try and find a way to customize that mesh texture though, so no one worries.
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
Ripebananaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 17:07:52
May 21 2012 17:06 GMT
#19
Actually it's a full island. I see it as some kind of hidden expo you never check and/or lategame bait for positional play. It has been taken surprisingly often by my terran testers.

Shouldn't be surprising at all, terrans have the easiest time taking islands. I think this is why there were removed on Metropolis? It takes a bit too much effort to attack it than it takes to set it up. But I'm no map maker/tester, so I could be full of hot air.

Either way, the map looks beautiful
Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
May 21 2012 17:16 GMT
#20
On May 22 2012 02:06 Ripebananaa wrote:
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Actually it's a full island. I see it as some kind of hidden expo you never check and/or lategame bait for positional play. It has been taken surprisingly often by my terran testers.

Shouldn't be surprising at all, terrans have the easiest time taking islands. I think this is why there were removed on Metropolis? It takes a bit too much effort to attack it than it takes to set it up. But I'm no map maker/tester, so I could be full of hot air.

Either way, the map looks beautiful

It's lower-ground with space behind it, so it's actually easy to pick off once it's been set up.
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
May 21 2012 20:48 GMT
#21
Interesting concept for an island expand- every race can pressure that mineral line with fairly basic units if not defended. Unlike other island expos where the island is just immune to everything.

What's the range from the higher ground to the mineral line? As long as stalkers and roaches can hit it from high ground, it works for me. Colossus, Muta, and Sieges obviously have no problem.
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JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 21 2012 21:01 GMT
#22
Feels very disco-ish (with all the squares :p )

Nice map, looking forward to trying it out
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PandaZerg
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada148 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 22:39:58
May 21 2012 22:39 GMT
#23
Let us know when it will be published on NA. Don't touch textures It's perfect like this imo.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
May 21 2012 23:37 GMT
#24
Dark Shines is now published on NA!

Enjoy the free bump 'ven.
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ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
May 22 2012 15:49 GMT
#25
On May 22 2012 05:48 Crownlol wrote:
Interesting concept for an island expand- every race can pressure that mineral line with fairly basic units if not defended. Unlike other island expos where the island is just immune to everything.

What's the range from the higher ground to the mineral line? As long as stalkers and roaches can hit it from high ground, it works for me. Colossus, Muta, and Sieges obviously have no problem.


Queens can disrupt mining I don't think Roaches can.

On May 22 2012 06:01 JerKy wrote:
Feels very disco-ish (with all the squares :p )

Nice map, looking forward to trying it out


I hope you play on NA then, because TL asys you're from Korea and it's not published there ^^ Disco ? That might be true. It is, however, officially nicknamed "The Lego map" for that same reason
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
PandaZerg
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada148 Posts
May 22 2012 17:05 GMT
#26
I did some games on it and I do like it very much!!!
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
May 22 2012 19:39 GMT
#27
Thank you ! Can you give me some feedback as to what could be better ? Describe the games ?
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
discator
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany639 Posts
May 22 2012 20:42 GMT
#28
Great map! Love the artworks, love the island-ish expansion, and the name is awesome too

Will play some games on it tommorow as I'm busy today ATM.
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Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
May 22 2012 21:32 GMT
#29
Those white and black textures on the ground are very contrast.
PandaZerg
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada148 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 22:49:32
May 22 2012 22:48 GMT
#30
@ArcticRaven
Games was long (over 30 minutes). I am Master. I played with 2 different friends (zerg and terran). Some times, I was confused about expands location and army location on the map (path to use to bring this army group here and there). First time it happens to me like this, but after few games, it's ok. I was embarrassed about how to attack top base (low ground) against Terran when it's a PF. I did drop Banelings + Infested Terran while harassment somewhere else and it worked well. I like the blue fence (with invisible LOS). The textures color are fine for minimap. GJ!
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