• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:36
CEST 17:36
KST 00:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall4HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Flash Announces Retirement From ASL22Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?12FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event16Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster14Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event HomeStory Cup 27 (June 27-29) WardiTV Mondays SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 $200 Biweekly - StarCraft Evolution League #1
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
Flash Announces Retirement From ASL Where did Hovz go? [ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall BW General Discussion ASL20 Preliminary Maps
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL20] ProLeague LB Final - Saturday 20:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
Game Sound vs. Music: The Im…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 617 users

[M] (2) ESV Spring by IronManSC

Forum Index > SC2 Maps & Custom Games
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 16:45:08
April 18 2012 06:56 GMT
#1
[image loading]
ESV.TV The home of the Korean Weekly

ESV Spring

by IronManSC


Published to [NA] [EU] [SEA]




[image loading]

Screenshots:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]




Introduction

I took my previous map, Cross Point, which was an experimental 6M FRB map, and transformed it into a standard 8m2g map for the current metagame. I reduced each player from 7 bases to 6, and I overhauled the map's tileset from desert to spring.

You might ask "why a spring theme?" Well for obvious reasons it's April, but also because I felt that a spring theme has not been fully developed or explored yet amongst the SC2 map community, and I wanted to experiment with the possibilities of trying to create a spring map, and so this is what I churned out!

The map's theme (or aesthetics) feature patches of melting snow, with rocky, muddy grass all over (the mud helps define the paths). I also added a shade of light haven grass around the snow to give the grass a more "frozen" look to it (like dew on the grass in the morning). There are lots of flowers as well In the near future I'm going to try adding some man-made decorations, since the man-made areas look a little bland right now, but man-made aesthetics are not my cup of tea

The thirds on high ground can be walled off on its alternative entrance/exit with 3-rax, so this should not be too much of a problem to defend. Otherwise, you can grab 4 bases linearly, or expand around your main base which allows for different play styles. This base setup worked well in FRB, so I presume it will be at least okay for the current metagame in 8m2g play. Each main base features a small "step" for drops, colossi, stalkers, reapers, etc. This helps with harassment but also to reinforce the base hugging your main.

As always, leave comments and feedback ^^



Map Details:
Players: 2
Playable Size: 136x160
XT: 2
Bases: 12

Tileset:
[image loading]

Analyzer:
Main to Main: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Nat to Nat: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Summary: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Notable Replays:
PvT - http://drop.sc/161892 (17 min)
PvT - http://drop.sc/161891 (23 min)
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
heltida
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden6 Posts
April 18 2012 07:21 GMT
#2
Nice to see it got finished and let me say,it looks wonderful Good work IronMan!
HighLach
Profile Joined December 2011
United States132 Posts
April 18 2012 07:45 GMT
#3
I think those center bases would be nearly impossible to hold especially against a terran player with tanks. Maybe there should be a benefit for taking that base rather than others because of its vulnerability.
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
April 18 2012 07:52 GMT
#4
On April 18 2012 16:45 HighLach wrote:
I think those center bases would be nearly impossible to hold especially against a terran player with tanks. Maybe there should be a benefit for taking that base rather than others because of its vulnerability.


Mabye a 3rd gas?
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
April 18 2012 08:37 GMT
#5
Replays section added to the bottom of the OP. Matchup and match length are recorded as well.
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
April 18 2012 08:42 GMT
#6
I think mereel captured this setting better with his 2in1 map - still the snow needed to be changed because of the complains about visuals issues players seem to have with those.
TPW Member | My Maps @ TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=171486 | Search 'dezi' at EU
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-18 09:08:36
April 18 2012 08:45 GMT
#7
On April 18 2012 17:42 dezi wrote:
I think mereel captured this setting better with his 2in1 map - still the snow needed to be changed because of the complains about visuals issues players seem to have with those.


Mereel's version of this tileset, the old Damage Inc before it was changed to desert, wasn't necessarily spring as i recall. It was just standard grass/snow/dirt... like a mountain-like tileset (minus the mountains).

Damage Inc
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Spring
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I fail to see how damage inc represents spring more than my own map.

And the snow was because of the lighting. I've tested the snow on Spring and at first it was insanely bright but I fixed it.

SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
BcYen
Profile Joined March 2012
United States25 Posts
April 18 2012 08:48 GMT
#8
I can't test it tonight ironman, I've been working on coding, I'll check it out tommorow.

Maybe another replay of dew.
jerg imbuh
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
April 18 2012 10:29 GMT
#9
reminds me of ohana except for the center base
rtsAlaran
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany383 Posts
April 18 2012 10:37 GMT
#10
normally I don't really care about decals, details and somewhat artwork...

but this looks sooo nice friendly and cute, especially that 1st screenshot GOOD WORK!
RumbleBadger
Profile Joined July 2011
322 Posts
April 18 2012 13:35 GMT
#11
The more I look at this map, the more I like it.
Games before dames.
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
April 18 2012 13:49 GMT
#12
I think there is just waaaaayyyy too much ground in the middle, there arent really even any bases there so the map looks needlessly large to me. I think the aesthetics are top notch though!
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
April 18 2012 15:29 GMT
#13
On April 18 2012 22:49 CaptainCrush wrote:
I think there is just waaaaayyyy too much ground in the middle, there arent really even any bases there so the map looks needlessly large to me. I think the aesthetics are top notch though!


I plan to add a 3rd gas to the center bases to make them worth more. The middle is actually not as large as it appears to be. It's a good size for mid/late-game encounters.
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
April 18 2012 15:38 GMT
#14
I like that you need presence in the centre to secure the middle third, but I think the rocks should be on the other side of the ramp to allow you to get behind your expansion from the low ground a bit faster.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
April 18 2012 15:46 GMT
#15
unfortunatly snow isnt really viable as a texture with 'correct' lighing because its just too bright as travis said. that was also the reason why i changed the tileset on damage.

i think that nightish lighting is ok here
SDMF
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
April 18 2012 15:48 GMT
#16
where is the shark ?
rly ?
IronManSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2119 Posts
April 18 2012 15:55 GMT
#17
On April 19 2012 00:48 algue wrote:
where is the shark ?


I am doing an aesthetics update shortly, which will include man-made aesthetics, space shark, and a change to the center bases.
SC2 Mapmaker || twitter: @ironmansc || Ohana & Mech Depot || 3x TLMC finalist || www.twitch.tv/sc2mapstream
Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
April 18 2012 17:27 GMT
#18
this actually looks really nice :D
gj ironman!
Co-Manager of Soviet Gaming * http://twitter.com/#!/sGMarioo * http://www.facebook.com/SovietGamingfanpage * https://twitter.com/#!/SovietGaming
Natespank
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada449 Posts
April 18 2012 19:00 GMT
#19
looks exactly like belshir beach except for the tileset and the middle is traversible.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
April 18 2012 19:08 GMT
#20
On April 19 2012 04:00 Natespank wrote:
looks exactly like belshir beach except for the tileset and the middle is traversible.


Buy yourself some spectacles please.
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 24m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 440
mouzHeroMarine 394
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 4489
Larva 1230
EffOrt 1151
Stork 432
Mini 376
BeSt 283
ZerO 257
Light 176
Rush 145
Snow 124
[ Show more ]
hero 121
Hyun 111
Mind 74
Zeus 57
Barracks 56
Sharp 51
Shinee 45
Movie 41
JYJ38
Aegong 30
Rock 17
Terrorterran 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
scan(afreeca) 13
SilentControl 11
Noble 9
IntoTheRainbow 9
zelot 9
HiyA 8
Shine 7
Hm[arnc] 5
Dota 2
Gorgc9989
qojqva3130
febbydoto11
League of Legends
singsing2503
Counter-Strike
markeloff135
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King162
amsayoshi46
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor155
Other Games
FrodaN1223
hiko1154
B2W.Neo439
Liquid`VortiX331
RotterdaM324
Happy306
crisheroes222
ArmadaUGS106
Trikslyr44
QueenE40
ZerO(Twitch)20
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 27
• iHatsuTV 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2810
• WagamamaTV406
League of Legends
• TFBlade745
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
24m
OSC
3h 24m
SHIN vs Bunny
Cham vs MaNa
SKillous vs TBD
PAPI vs Jumy
Gerald vs Moja
ArT vs TBD
Replay Cast
8h 24m
The PondCast
18h 24m
RSL Revival
18h 24m
ByuN vs Classic
Clem vs Cham
WardiTV European League
1d
Replay Cast
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
herO vs SHIN
Reynor vs Cure
WardiTV European League
2 days
FEL
2 days
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
FEL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
FEL
3 days
BSL: ProLeague
4 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-28
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.