[A] Starbow - Page 507

On January 14 2014 08:33 Ahli wrote:
I took the freedom of checking out the StarbowBeta mod in the editor.

Bug:
- High Ground mechanic doesn't work properly in every case. If you switch targets between starts attacking and the actual weapon launch, the damage reduction effect applies to another target you attack. This just resulted in a Dragoon dealing 0.5 damage on a Marine standing right next to it.
FIX: remove the behavior, if the trigger doesn't add the high_ground behavior (so, remove the behavior in the else case)
- The High Ground mechanic doesn't work properly when a fast attacker switches the target. For example, a Marine shoots at something on a cliff and received the debuff. It deals 0.5 damage to the unit on the cliff. After dealing damage it is ordered to attack a unit directly next to it. The Marine attacks and deals 0.5 damage, too. The problem is the duration. It has a static duration of 1.5. It should be tied to the unit type instead to avoid overly long durations.
- The "Attack" button used by some units creates a problem when the "simple command card" game option is used by the player. For example, Arbiter shows the first row of commands. Btw, it doesn't show its abilities, so you should check the other button's settings, too. The button's field for that is named "Hides for simple text".

Possible Optimizations:
- Make use of the "default" case in switches (it's its own field) to save the last validator check. Also, that would be used automatically for all units that don't pass your other validators making it a more robust implementation. Else you might have attacks that don't deal damage to some units, if your validators and unit attributes aren't calibrated correctly.
- "Set to 1" trigger has a redundant "wait" action making the thread exist longer than necessary. There is a limit of 1024 threads.
- "Map Init" overrides the current order indicator setting for players 1 to 15. Player 15 is forced to be the player "Hostile". So, you either use 0 to 14 or 1 to 14, if you plan to never alter Player 0 (neutral) in a map (which you really shouldn't). => 1 to 14
- "Map Init" sets a custom value to 0. That's the initial value, so the whole loop is not required.
- Why is there a wait(0.0625) [= 1 game loop] at the end of the "siegedAttackAbility"? Why can't you just remove it? The only application of the custom value mattering for siege tanks is the same trigger...

I don't fully understand your siegedAttackAbility. Do you care to elaborate why it is required?

On January 14 2014 08:37 Sumadin wrote:
Probably to make Sieged Tank pickup available. Most likely that infact.

Sine you seems knowledgeable could you look into the bug where Vultures will appear double in Production tab and Unit Tab for observers? (8 vulture will appear in unit tab when only 4 is being made).

On January 14 2014 08:29 murphs wrote:
Glad you're enjoying it wheat.

Personally I was drifting away from SC2 since the release of hots. While hots is better than wings, it wasn't enough of an improvement. It's very difficult to remain interested in a game when all that holds you is some glimmer of hope that Blizzard will see the light and make the big changes that need to happen.

David Kim's balance post last week was the last straw. In a game with such deeply rooted design issues this guy hops on to the forums to let everyone know that winrates are near the 50% mark and therefore his job is done until a month later where he will do the exact same thing. Hopeless.

As if by divine intervention I discover Starbow this weekend past. I am playing it and enjoying it immensely. I don't care about the balance issues that may exist. Balance is a luxury we can afford to discuss when the fundamentals are solid and the game is fun. Starbow is FUN.

SC2 is dead to me now. I'm not waiting for Blizzard to fix the game because it won't happen. I'll be playing this instead.

On January 14 2014 17:44 Beef Noodles wrote:
Just want y'all to know Jaedong is playing Major in Starbow:

http://www.twitch.tv/zlfreebird

On January 15 2014 00:44 iHirO wrote:
A SC2Gears plugin would also be a possible way of creating a ranking by doing automatic replay uploads.

Though it might go against the Terms and Conditions:

F. Host, provide or develop matchmaking services for the Game or intercept, emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Blizzard in any way, for any purpose, including without limitation unauthorized play over the internet, network play (except as expressly authorized by Blizzard), or as part of content aggregation networks;