[A] Starbow - Page 12

On June 17 2012 14:14 0neder wrote:
Maybe I'll throw out some ideas later. Is this mod up on US right now?

On June 17 2012 14:38 0neder wrote:
Awesome. There are so many ways this improves SC2 as it is currently, even based on Blizzard's own goals of strategic variety.

Here are a few suggestions from me:

This will feel a little unit-poor if you're trying to win over current SC2 players. I suggest adding 1 more unit per race back in.
What if sentries came back at the robo?
What if reapers got concussive and firebats came back for terran's extra unit?
I like roaches as a unit with their regen abilities- maybe tier 1 but 1 supply, or tier 2 at 2 supply.
SC2 carrier art is disconnected from the near radial symmetry of the corsair, void ray, and arbiter. Has anyone made something like the old version or that is more radially symmetrical?
By the same token, the Science Vessel could be more terran. Can we use the Nomad model or something that looks more utilitarian?

Also, I think this should be tested on WIDE open center maps. Better to balance around those than the claustrophobic ladder ones.

On June 17 2012 15:48 plasmidghost wrote:
I tried out only one game on this, but reapers definitely need to be nerfed. I was able to get out 6 reapers within about 5 minutes and kill the entire economy line of my opponent. I'll try to look into it some more when I'm not as tired.

On June 18 2012 00:43 haitike wrote:
There is Terrain adventage in this Mod? It is one of the things that really SC2 needs.

On June 17 2012 21:43 NukeD wrote:
Just wondering, is it possible to implement this in the mod?

On June 18 2012 01:42 Laertes wrote:
Alright its up, I will be updating the map Devolution for now, because I have an appointment in a few, other than that, im going to play some Starbow on EU.

On June 18 2012 02:27 MetalPanda wrote:
I don't know, Protoss seems weak early game now that forcefield is only available after Templar Archive, at least they get an awesome arbiter. You could build more cannons, but it sucks to have to build too much static defense to ensure your life there. Terran seems good, but I think Zerg might be the best race there overall, with so many upgrades late game.

On June 18 2012 02:38 Savant7 wrote:
so spider mines cannot be used as effective board control. Sadface.

On June 18 2012 04:09 Savant7 wrote:
My point is you're not gonna make spider mines on cliff lines are you? Dragoons will just blink up, and not to mention just the raw fact that the ability to blink forward into tanks gives them one less volley before they're on top of you which can make a huge difference as tanks usually only fire 2-4 volleys during a given engagement as any protoss hesitation costs units. Previously protoss had to go arbiters or carriers to deal with mines and tank lines now they just need a warp prism or obs+blink and they're good to go. Not to mention the fact that colossus would still be effective against a vulture/tank army whereas reavers were a lot harder to use effectively vs that composition. Not saying this breaks the game just saying why bother adding the vulture if mech is pretty freakin' hard to play against protoss.

On June 18 2012 08:19 plasmidghost wrote:

It said Starbow. I'm on NA, and the map was Ilio Volta. The reapers had the building attack and a firebat-like attack for units.

On June 17 2012 21:43 NukeD wrote:
Just wondering, is it possible to implement this in the mod?