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StavrosHL
Greece128 Posts
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sTARdasH
Germany14 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On November 17 2011 06:30 sTARdasH wrote: can you use the star relic model for the oracle . the flying sentry looks wierd Haha was about to say the same thing. I made an oracle in a PvP and was like "Since when do sentries fly?" | ||
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Zergrusher
United States562 Posts
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:08 Zergrusher wrote: could you replace the corruptor with the devourer? You realize this is supposed to be as close to the actual HotS alpha as possible, which, last time I checked, did not include devourers... | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On November 17 2011 12:08 Zergrusher wrote: could you replace the corruptor with the devourer? I think that is a question for the Blizzard :D Personally I would love that (in real Hots). | ||
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Zergrusher
United States562 Posts
On November 17 2011 15:58 -NegativeZero- wrote: You realize this is supposed to be as close to the actual HotS alpha as possible, which, last time I checked, did not include devourers... i know, but Cmon alteast they were better then the flying fish. that turns into the spashless zerg colussus they should replace it with the devourer | ||
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HeyImFinn
United States250 Posts
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On November 18 2011 15:01 MrFoxer wrote: My protoss friend and I have deduced that Warhound + Battle Helion is extremely broken vs protoss. And Shredder drops are way to effective. Shouldnt colossi and sentries be very effective vs WH/BH? Also psi storms. | ||
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HeyImFinn
United States250 Posts
On November 18 2011 15:09 Sea_Food wrote: Shouldnt colossi and sentries be very effective vs WH/BH? Also psi storms. Lol idk. We're both platinum XD | ||
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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
On November 18 2011 15:09 Sea_Food wrote: Shouldnt colossi and sentries be very effective vs WH/BH? Also psi storms. Colossi are mech, so I'd imagine warhounds eat them up. | ||
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sweetbabyjesus
Denmark168 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20332 Posts
Hmm i think this is the wrong mindset to have when theorycrafting | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
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aklambda
Austria48 Posts
 Don't know if that is supposed to happen. Just wanted to let you know. | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
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Imalengrat
Australia365 Posts
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XenoX101
Australia729 Posts
To start the new patch that's just been uploaded has a series of new, well polished loading screens. I've been meaning to re-do these for a while and am happy I finally had the time, they are much nicer than the old ones so I hope you enjoy them .Patch Notes 1.25b - Removed displayed "Spines" from swarm host - Phase Shift now 50 energy - Oracle now 4 supply - Warhound now +4 to light from +3 - Warhound build time increased to 45 from 40 - Shredder Deploy time increased to 6 from 5.5 Next up I have updated the unit stats spreadsheet to show just how insanely close we are to the real balance of the game, now admittedly there are still discrepencies and some units behave such as the battle hellion behave slightly differently than the real thing, but it is very, very close; see below for the unit stat spreadsheet. HOTS Custom Unit Stats [Image] Now to give some weight to these stats, here is a balance video that shows just how close I have gotten with unit balance compared to what we saw at BlizzCon, quite literally by comparing the teaser/gameplay videos with tests I ran on a test map with the mod (and one or two of the teasers had to be sped up as they were running on normal/fast not faster :/). Again it isn't absolutely 100% perfect, but I think it is very very close and this might give you an insight into the effort thats been put in to balance the map. But where do we go from here? Well we set up small community based tournaments of course! This is what I will be now spending my efforts organizing, and I am hoping this will be a bi-weekly event if enough people are interested in participating, it will be of course streamed however its yet to be decided who will be casting, if you're interested feel free to PM me with a sample of your casting (if you're not known that is) and your info. The prize pool will most likely start at $70 with $40 for the winner, $20 for 2nd and $10 for third and depending on how it goes this may be increased, but I think $40 is a reasonable enough prize to hopefully warrant some preparation and competition . The tournament should start in three weeks or a bit earlier but this may be subject to change depending on scheduling, participants, when people are free and how long things will take to set up.Now, there is still one issue that I've been meaning to address and that is the map pool. At the moment there are only 4 maps in the pool as it was a nice number to start with and kept the map relatively easy to update. But now that things have cooled down and almost all bug and balance issues have been fixed and a tournament will be coming up, I think its time to introduce some more maps. There will be 4 new maps that I will be updating with the HOTS Custom mod which you can see below. Daybreak by WinparkPrime should make for nice long macro games and seems to shine particularly in TvT; Bel'Shir Beach (Winter) by LSPrime is a great reworking of the beautiful Bel'Shir Beach original, and will tie in well with the HOTS snow/ice theme we saw. Sanshorn Mist by Superouman is one of the older community maps but it recently was one of the winners of the IPL map contest and features a nice simple 1v1 layout similar to the old Jungle Basin but with a much much easier to take third. And Twilight Peaks by Ragoo is a recent finalist for the TL Map Contest featuring a simple but effective 4 player layout somewhat similar to Tal'Darim but a bit smaller. Twilight Peaks and Antiga Shipyard have been altered to have only cross spawn locations because of the short rush distances. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/msvdX.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VzRap.jpg) Daybreak by WinparkPrime ..... Bel'Shir Beach (Winter) by LSPrime ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NEegj.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vwMtS.jpg) Sanshorn Mist by Superouman ..... Twilight Peaks by Ragoo So I hope you guys enjoy all the new updates and are excited for the upcoming tournament, I think this will be a fantastic opportunity to get a glimpse at how HOTS might play out on the higher levels, and to see some great games with all the new bug-free and balanced units and abilites .Also just to show you guys how far the map has come to its current conception, I've attached a full list of all the patch notes from the very first 0.83 patch some three weeks ago to the current patch 1.25, and if you're counting there have been 206 changes since the first patch. So thats that, stay tuned for more and hope you've been enjoying the map thus far .+ Show Spoiler + ---------------- Patch Notes 1.25b - Removed displayed "Spines" from swarm host - Phase Shift now 50 energy - Oracle now 4 supply - Warhound now +4 to light from +3 - Warhound build time increased to 45 from 40 - Shredder Deploy time increased to 6 from 5.5 ---------------- Patch Notes 1.25 - Viper can now target itself with ocular parasite - Ultralisk Charge vastly improved - Ultralisk Charge now has 9 range - Ultralisk Charge is called Burrow Assault - Locust movement speed reduced to 2 from 2.25 - Swarm Host's rally improved - Burrowed Swarm Host initially unable to spawn locusts for 3 seconds (as real) - Swarm Host movement speed increased to 2.25 - Locust attack move rally fixed to ensure attack move - Replicant reverted to retain old vitals ---------------- Patch Notes 1.24 - Entomb now has 5.5 AoE from 5 - Entombed minerals now appear on minimap - Ocular Parasite hotkey is now C - Blinding cloud hotkey is now B - Abduct hotkey is now D - Swarm Host hotkey to S - Ocular parasite easier to see - Siphon no longer works on phase shifted buildings - Shredder now selectable with other units - Blinding cloud to Prevent energy-based abilities - Locusts now always spawn from unrallied Swarm Hosts - Arc Shield tooltip now shows duration - Some sounds fixed to be world-relative instead of global - Swarm Host (and potentially other burrowed units) not recallable ---------------- Patch Notes 1.23 - Preordain persistant icon bug fixed - Shredder deploy time reduced to 5.5 - Added alerts for damage from new units - Added alert for shredder damage - Intensity of shredder animation lowered - Replicant no longer replicates with its old health - Warhound attack speed now 1.21 - Warhound model now slightly smaller - Battle Hellion attack speed now 2.19 from 2.5 - Battle Hellion move speed now 2.375 from 2.5 - Battle Hellion range 1.25 from 1.5 - Battle Hellion AoE now 3.0 from 2.5 (slightly wider too) - Battle Hellion sight radius now same as Hellion ---------------- Patch Notes 1.22 - Ocular parasite no longer works on massive units - Battle Hellion damage now +6 to light from +11, like hellion - Battle Hellion attack speed now 1.85 from 2.5 - Battle Hellion move speed now 2.5 from 1.8 - Battle Hellion 1.5 from 3 range - Battle Hellion now has 2.5 from 3.5 AoE - Warhound attack speed now 0.86 from 1.5 - Warhound move speed now 2.75 from 2.25 - Blinding Cloud now 2.5 from 2 AoE - Locust attack speed 0.86 from 0.83 - Tempest Air Weapon now starts firing instantly - Tempest movement speed now 2.75 - Tempest acceleration now similar to phoenix - Phoenix glow glitch on warp in fixed - Thor now has 800 hp - Warhound weapon now shows 1 attack ---------------- Patch Notes 1.21 - Preordain fixed on hatcheries to only work for 2 minutes - Abduct can now be cancelled before it fires - Abduct invulnerability & viper immobilization removed - Abduct can now be queued - Battle Hellions now Light, Mechanical - Ultralisk charge now can be queued - Ultralisk charge now works up ramps - Ultralisk charge no longer leaves ghosts images - Ultralisk charge cast time reduced from 0.5 to 0.25 - Thor bombardment now deals friendly damage ---------------- Patch Notes 1.2 - Pylons no longer provide power up cliffs (like in HotS) - Recall on blocked mineral fields no longer works/crashes the game - Battle Hellion now has darker model (to look less like firebat) - Battle Hellion's preigniter flame is now blue (dejavu  )- Battle Hellion attack model now matches AoE ---------------- Patch Notes 1.11 - Burrowed banelings now visible when moving (like burrowed roach movement) - Abduct now 10 range - Shredder death animation fixed - Tempest AoE reduced from 4 to 2.5 - Tempest eradicator beam has less initial firing delay - Tempest splash model now slightly smaller - Swarm host rally resets when unburrowed ---------------- Patch Notes 1.1 - Shredder now deals more accurate damage (was slightly weak) - Shredder Radiation & Radiation Impact models changed - Replicant now only copies researched weapon & armor upgrades, doesn't copy protoss upgrades - Warhound now fires its weapon instantly - Battle Hellion now has 2.5 range and deals 2.5 range AoE from itself similar to hellion - Thor's Bombardment now correctly deals 200 (+300 to buildings) Aoe damage over 12 seconds - Locust speed lowered from 2.39 to 2.25 - Viper speed lowered from 3.0 to 2.75 - Swarm Host speed lowered to from 2.25 to 2 - Blinding Cloud AoE lowered from 2.5 to 2.0 (same as fungal) ---------------- Patch Notes 1.0 - Arc Shield now also works during unit production - Ultralisk charge no longer bugs up with buildings - Ultralisk charge no longer works up or down cliffs - Swarm Host trigger error fixed ---------------- Patch Notes 0.88 - Phase Shift reworked to now work in PvP and 2v2's - Preordain now updated to work on hatcheries (working as intended but might be imbalanced, will change if so) - Battle Hellions are no longer Light or Armored just Mechanical - Battle Hellions move speed reduced to 2 (more accurate, actually a buff) - Entomb AoE reverted to 5 thanks to further information - Battle Hellion AoE increased to 1.5 - Warhound Attack Speed Decreased to 1.5 (this is accurate) ---------------- Patch Notes 0.87 - Preordain works properly on all except hatcheries due to larva use - Preordain no longer gives full vision and is no longer permanent - Arc Shield no longer works on pylons and assimilators - Recall now just like the mothership (nearly instant) - Entomb slightly reworked - Entomb now has 4 AoE range (still uncertain as to exact range, but think that it doesnt cover all minerals) - Entomb mineral blocks are owned by player casting them (give slight vision) - Entombed minerals no longer disappear from minimap - Thor damage now displays correctly, is affected by upgrades - Infernal preigniter now affects battle hellions - Blinding cloud fixed to affect all players - Now all playable 2v2 - MULE now has timed life on replication - Arc Shield and Recall hotkeys now S and R respectively - Phase Shift on gas now blocks mining - Phase Shift on turrets, cannons, spine&spore now stops weapons - Warhound now costs 150/75 - Shredder now costs 150/150 - Swarm Host now 40s build time - Swarm Host now regenerates cooldown when unburrowed - Burrowed Banelings no longer benefit from centrifugal hooks - Battle Hellion is now light ------------------------ Patch Notes: 0.86 - Roach and thor now affected by blinding cloud - Tempest ground damage now 35, now called "Eradicator beam" - Viper now has appropriate icons - Battle hellions are now armored and not light - Remove strike cannon factory - Undeployed shredder death animation fixed - Returned adrenal glands - Control clicking shredders no longer selects siege tanks, selects shredders ------------------------ Patch Notes: 0.85 - Workers can now be replicated - Phase Shift & Siphon now allowed on gas buildings - Upgrades on all units - Subgroup Priorities updated - Replicant & Oracle now have unique icons (no longer sentry) - Locust now has an attack animation against structures - Creep tumors no longer visible to all - Viper abduct no long works in space - No aggro caused by entombed minerals - Baneling burrow now costs 150/150 with 90 second build time - Blinding cloud now lasts 10 seconds - Tempest now has 3 air weapon speed, 2.2 ground weapon speed - Replicant build time is now 30s - Swarm host burrow hotkey fixed - Replicating burrowed swarm hosts now works - Floating buildings now count to tech requirement - Added scan move to all spellcasters - Added Baneling attack structure to burrowed - Fixed Baneling normal attack move for unburrowed - Battle Hellions now show weapon damage - Burrowed baneling speed now the same as unburrowed - Locusts can no longer burrow - Warhound now does 4 damage, +3 to light x 4 attacks - Thor now has 800 hp, weapon of 65 damage x 2, spell barrage 300 damage +200 buildings - Ghost cloak is now 25 energy for 30 seconds - Reapers can attack buildings again - Replicants gain upgrades of the unit they are replicating - Battlecruiser redline reactor cooldown set to 30 - Arc shield now works on forge, warp gate and fleet beacon - Oracle now has 3.75 move speed - Tempest now does 45 damage - Oracle now has normal flying line of sight - viper speed increased to 3 - Adrenal glands is removed - Arc shield now requires gateway - Corruptor no longer keeps green tint if morphing into Brood lord - Shredder range indicator more accurate - Warpgates fixed to still count as Gateways for tech purposes - Arc shield and Recall hotkeys fixed to not interfere - Forcefield now works on battle hellion, warhound & swarm host - Add-ons no longer destroyed when a building is phase-shifted - Battle hellion weapon improved to deal appropriate splash - Thor hero icon fixed - Warhound splash increased to 2 - Burrow research time back to 100 seconds - Thor no longer attacks air - Ocular implant no longer works on enemy units - Battle hellion damage fixed - Ultralisk charge autocast now overrides attack move - New replicate triggering bug fixed where protoss spells were given to all protoss units - New centrifugal hooks boost to burrowed baneling movement speed now doesnt apply until tunneling jaws is finished - Locusts cannot enter Nydus canals or Overlords - Alerts for Entomb & Phase Shift added - Swarm Host move speed now 2.25 ------------------------ Patch Notes: 0.83 - Campaign dependency added - Partially fixed Ultralisk Charge, it won't auto-attack units above or below cliff level - Only one corruptor may syphon a given building at any given time - Mutas & Corruptors no longer disabled when the spire is disabled but you still have a greater spire - Swarm Host locusts fixed so they attack move - Stargate no longer has carriers - Viper's Ocular Parasite is now usable (doesn't cost 5000% of your energy )- Viper's hotkeys no longer overlap with eachother - Shredder now stops dealing damage when it is undeployed - Shredder now deals correct damage of 20 per second as 2 damage every 0.1 seconds - Replicants now 4 supply - Oracle's Phase Shift now displays its energy cost - Locusts now show their weapon - Tempest now 6 supply - Tempest now 75 build time - Tempest splash now only hits air - Tempest splash aoe now 4 - Arc shield cannon now does 5 damage, 20 to light - Battle Hellions don't damage friendlies anymore - Replicants can't replicate massive units | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
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XenoX101
Australia729 Posts
, see my edited post above, they should be up within a day or two.On November 20 2011 08:17 emc wrote: nice job on the mod, I'd like in on this tournament. I will probably start taking sign-ups a week or so prior to the tournament, I'll make mention of the page on this thread . | ||
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