[M] Valley of Kings

On July 30 2011 03:05 EffectS wrote:
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Updated a little bit, tell me what you think. I removed the middle and replaced it with a lot of open ground since I got a lot of people telling me that there's too much choke and almost no open ground. To make the gold bases a bit more difficult to capture (since the xel'naga towers aren't there anymore) I placed some LoS doodads infront of them. Guess these can both serve a purpose defensive and offensive.

The current mineral lines are:
Main: 8M, 2G
Nat: 8M, 2G
Third: 8M, 1G
Fourth: 5M, 2G
Gold: 6 (lower this to 5 probably), 1G

Still looking for someone to help me with tips on doodads if possible .

On July 30 2011 03:38 iGrok wrote:

now add chokes back in :p

Really though. But instead of a huge missing area in the middle, try something else, like 4 obstacles or something that lets the map breathe a bit better.

Here's my perspective as a mid-dia Zerg.
The layout reminds me of typhon, but it doesn't have too many ledges and level-changes which is what makes typhon and to some extant XNC so blink stalker favoured and that's probably a good thing. There's still some of that, but also a good amount of chokes so I could see protoss doing well on this map vZ but at the same time there's a lot of attack paths so Zerg harass options are strong post mid-game.
It looks like there's a two-tumor distance between the main and the nat, which is good. The Natural being 7 patches instead of 8 seems... really weird to me and would probably favour Zerg over the other races and be the biggest hinderance for terran, as they would mine out their first two bases a little faster than usual.
I can't really tell what the attack distances are but overall the map seems nearly Tal'Darim sized especially if you spawn cross so that the centre architecture blocks (top right and lower left). The center gold seems pretty pointless since if you can hold that, you've probably won. On the other hand, Terran might be able to slowpush to it and hold it, thus starving an opponent that can't attack into a sieged terran since the terran has the gold and the opponent doesn't, though even in that scenario it seems like it would be very hard to hold onto.
Overall it seems like a Zerg map. A lot of open space, a lot of attack paths once you get to three bases and trying to end the game before three bases would be harder than usual since fewer patches are available. Terran seems to be at a disadvantage here vZ, though vP the distances would be good for T overall. Baneling landmines would be good, drops/nydus/warpins to the main seems feasible and I think there's more than the normal amount of space you could proxy buildings to. Phoenix/muta/banshee would likely do as well as on most maps, though the airspace seems a little tight. The mouth of the natural is a little far from the nat itself, meaning it would be tough to get spine coverage of it though it does remind me of maps like shattered.

On October 01 2011 11:49 FlopTurnReaver wrote:
Don't listen to anyone but Mairou!! Yes, there are a lot of chokes on the map but they have pretty reasonable proportions and also there are sooo many attack paths that Zerg will have plenty options for counter attacks. But yeah, middle expansions are kind of a BW thing and don't really work in SC2 very well.

Also if you want to submit it to the TL contest you should definitly think about good locations for XNT's

On November 03 2011 13:45 EatThePath wrote:
AHHH the destructible battlecruiser wreckage was SO COOL. You have to put that back in if this gets selected! xD

This map is kind of like a version of Tal'Darim with hallways instead of open areas of Nebraska proportions, wouldn't mind some games on it.