I think the map looks ugly. Idk I really dislike testbug and this looks like testbug remade. Dunno why out of all the maps of iccup to be popular testbug is it its like one of the only maps of theirs I hate

Candide

456 Posts

March 08 2011 06:13 GMT

#45

It looks like steppes of war if you think about placement of natural/3rd and how close the ramps are

PatouPower

Canada1119 Posts

March 08 2011 06:15 GMT

#46

OMG, the map looks beautiful with lava on one side and water on the other. I am a little worried though by the number of bases. We also have never played on a map like that, so I guess we can't judge too fast, but I don't see any macro game going far. It will either be a death battle for the 3/4th bases, or 2 bases all-ins like on the other maps.

On another note, I like that fact that you can't siege or storm the mineral lines easily and that they are far enough from the entrances so your economy isn't automatically over when you get contained.

UruzuNine

Canada162 Posts

March 08 2011 06:19 GMT

#47

Looks absolutely terrible, in my opinion. Expect a lot of 2-base play on this map.

Gentso

United States2218 Posts

March 08 2011 06:54 GMT

#48

To be honest, getting a third and holding it doesn't seem hard for this map. It looks extremely well designed and thought out, and I can definitely see long back and forth games on this map.

KevinIX

United States2472 Posts

March 08 2011 06:56 GMT

#49

Definitely inspired by Testbug. It would be great to see it in the GSL, although it would be even more great to see Testbug in the GSL.

TheKanAry

United States149 Posts

March 08 2011 07:08 GMT

#50

Reminds me of match point, simply because of the high ground pod between the second and the third.

It actually looks imbalanced for all three races, i like that

ThE_ShiZ

United States143 Posts

March 08 2011 07:10 GMT

#51

Looks like a hon ripoff. I bet that's exactly where they got the idea from.

uSnAmplified

United States1029 Posts

March 08 2011 07:17 GMT

#52

Its a little small and i agree it looks like it was HoN inspired. I think its a good concept but needs to be a little bigger but not altar big. Hopefully he can find a good middle ground with his next map.

heishe

Germany2284 Posts

March 08 2011 07:20 GMT

#53

I don't like this map. It's pretty pretty visually, but it doesn't look like it's going to encourage a lot of good games.

The expansions seem to be really far apart (even though I have a hard time right now judging how big the map is actually in total - it might turn out that these distances are more Steppes Of War-like) which combined with the fact that there are only 4 total bases per side makes for a lot of 2 base builds.

On March 08 2011 16:22 Shockk wrote:
People haven't seen a single game on the map and already everyone's complaining and arguing about how things will develop and why this map sucks.

The new set of GSL maps have shown that the larger macro maps can lead to some really interesting games with high level play (GSTL), but may also cause stale macro fests where nothing happens except for one huge battle and a GG after 15 minutes (Code A). Smaller maps have their place, and with 8 bases you have about the amount that gets taken in longer games anyway. The number of games where a 5th or 6th is properly utilized is small anyway.

In addition, this map is gorgeous. And I see no reason why we couldn't have a map like this in the GSL.

You're right, we should wait for a couple of games on this map. I still doubt that it's going to turn out to be an awesome map though.

Shockk

Germany2269 Posts

March 08 2011 07:22 GMT

#54

People haven't seen a single game on the map and already everyone's complaining and arguing about how things will develop and why this map sucks.

The new set of GSL maps have shown that the larger macro maps can lead to some really interesting games with high level play (GSTL), but may also cause stale macro fests where nothing happens except for one huge battle and a GG after 15 minutes (Code A). Smaller maps have their place, and with 8 bases you have about the amount that gets taken in longer games anyway. The number of games where a 5th or 6th is properly utilized is small anyway.

In addition, this map is gorgeous. And I see no reason why we couldn't have a map like this in the GSL.

Yoshi Kirishima

United States10377 Posts

March 08 2011 07:22 GMT

#55

The map looks nice, but it looks quite odd; uncomfortable like when you see Crossfire SE. Although, I hope it's still fun of course

The mixing of two tile sets is sort of cool and adds more dynamic; you'll probably like one side more. But that also means there'll be one you like less xD

Just first impression it seems like it will be a 3 base turtle map leading into lategame fighting for a fourth while both players are very low on resources. Sounds epic

Geo.Rion

7377 Posts

March 08 2011 07:24 GMT

#56

anything below 12 bases is not a macro map for me, so i dont like it

It actually looks a bit small too

oblong

United States86 Posts

March 08 2011 07:29 GMT

#57

On March 08 2011 14:12 Antoine wrote:
Looks like he took a cue from Testbug on the mixing of 2 different tilesets haha
LSPrime is the one who made Tal'darim right? I remember the creator of that map saying they thought Tal'darim was too big, and this is definitely the opposite direction. The middle looks like it'll make for good battles, but it does look quite tough to take a 4th.

its not even hard to take your 4th, and even if it was... what would be wrong with that?

maps should not be made to give you inifinity free bases, and zerg players should quit pretending that would be good map design

MangoTango

United States3670 Posts

March 08 2011 07:29 GMT

#58

I love the idea of the 2 tilesets. Unfortunately the map is about half the size of what it should be. We've made steps forward with macro maps, this is a step back.

iko

New Zealand137 Posts

March 08 2011 07:32 GMT

#59

Reminds me a lot of Steppes of War.

Beautiful visuals.

v3chr0

United States856 Posts

March 08 2011 07:34 GMT

#60

I think the landscape, and terrain is great. However, as a SC2 "map" It definitely should be larger, stretch it out, and add 2reg 1 gold or 2 golds or 4 more expos and I can see it being a great map.