Blue Update on the situation:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248427323#5

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We know it sucks. We're working on solutions but because of the potential for those solutions to not work out, or be delayed, for whatever reason, we're not ready to share details or timelines. But we do appreciate the feedback and agree with a lot of the concerns being raised. Once we are in a place to share some information about what we're doing to address the concerns we'll let you know." - Bashiok

dybydx

Canada1764 Posts

August 06 2010 18:30 GMT

#102

i think the issue isnt with custom maps per se. its blizz want to somehow turn this into a money making process, so they dont want things to be free.

activisionblizzard recently released their financial results. in Q2 2010, their online revenue exceeded their box sale of games. so yes, they know the direction they are headed and bnet2.0 is gonna a cash cow to be milked.

luxx

United States140 Posts

August 07 2010 06:29 GMT

#103

CEMEH_CEMEHbl4 - Thanks for the warning. I think I saw some of your work in wc3, and it is a real shame when community is brushed aside to test out a new system that even a days of testing would have exposed.

Sadly I think you are right that it will take some time. Part of the problem is everyone is complaining about LAN and cross region when the death of custom maps should be the real concern.

bakedace - have you tried to host an unpopular map? I have done this many times and not once does a single public player join unless the map is already in the popular list. In WC3 when I hosted a game it filled up instantly, because every 30 sec or so it moved to the top of the list.

luxx

United States140 Posts

August 07 2010 06:33 GMT

#104

On August 07 2010 03:15 SnOw. wrote:
We know it sucks. We're working on solutions but because of the potential for those solutions to not work out, or be delayed, for whatever reason, we're not ready to share details or timelines. But we do appreciate the feedback and agree with a lot of the concerns being raised. Once we are in a place to share some information about what we're doing to address the concerns we'll let you know." - Bashiok

Yep, but the popularity system is only part of the problem. It will make joining games easier, which is what most people care about, however there is still the issue of getting new maps in the system in the first place. Short of opening their entire map catalog, I don't see how fixing the popularity system will let you CREATE custom games that are not popular.

Jonoman92

United States9109 Posts

August 07 2010 07:10 GMT

#105

Too bad they won't just let us play sc2 on battle net 1.0... would be so nice

Good luck map makers, I primarily play melee, but I enjoy an ums break now and then. Really sucks that they adopted such a poorly thought out system. If it ain't broke....

socal50

United States93 Posts

August 08 2010 08:38 GMT

#106

i like how powerful the map editor can be, but its liek im limited to a handful of maps that i see every time i go on bnet

groms

Canada1017 Posts

August 08 2010 15:53 GMT

#107

As a direct result of how lame the custom game interface is me and my friends now rarely play customs if at all(unless you count melee custom games ;p, but at least those are easy to host)

I doubt this will change within the next 6 months as they already have tons of stuff that needs to be fixed. I think this is easily one of their last priorities in terms of SC2 fixes and I think SC2 is probably one of their last priorities as well b/c they'd probably rather just rush cataclysm their cash cow out to market ASAP.

Glufs

Norway78 Posts

August 09 2010 17:30 GMT

#108

On August 03 2010 02:27 CEMEH_CEMEHbl4 wrote:
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luxx
Hello I am CEMEH_CEMEHbl4 the author of Battle Ships (2005-2010 versions) and BattleCraft maps.
I specially registered on TL, to quote your post.

Well if you do so u will be banned! Links in titles is not allowed. You will get 48h ban and lost your 1 publish slot. If you re publish - u will be banned for lifetime.

So DO NOT do this or you will be banned - and will start to HATE BLIZZARD like me! XD

The Story:
When i was in beta test i uploaded popular map, where on loading screen i was talking to people, that UMS system is a shit and a joke etc. They blocked my map (in beta test). So i re uploaded map without background picture because i was thinking it was the case. They banned me for lifetime.

So THEY banned beta key - JUST FOR TEXT on loading screen.

Advice:

I recommend to put link on map preview pic, not in title. It should be ok.

The Good News:
However i have good news. Of course Blizzard will fix this shit crappy custom games system. But... we need to wait 2 years. (first add on)

Activision multiplayer technology is based on cloud calculations. Which is a shit and fail of humanity. But its very popular in Silicon Valley.Their dreams is to make a new INTERNET based on cloud calculations. So no wonder they use this shit in games IWNET - BNET2.0 - etc.

However its will be pretty big patch and a lot of code to convert custom games into old one.We can expect it only with next add on. Be realist.

The Bad News:
Add on will be released after 2 years. Its a default Blizzard time for an add on. Plus new add on will include a lot of cinematics.
If you dont believe me go in wikipedia and calculate. Only WOW addons does not fit 2 years.

So we will have working UMS system after D3 release. Which have no sense.

Map making:
I was making maps for wc3 like 6 years...
NEW custom games is awful, map publishing work only in your region! What? No motivation for me to make a good map because, Europe its only 1/6 maybe of all players on globe... SO B.NET 2.0 just LIMITED ME BY 6 times!!! RETARDED.

No motivation for me to make a map because i cant play my own map... simply no players... ITS a fucking joke! Soon top will be invaded with 4 player TD maps. And maps which can be played alone.

I seriously wanted to make a good balanced Battle Tanks style map.
And I have canceled all work. Its a waste of time. Fuck it. Fuck Blizzard.

Conclusion:
BLizzard have failed to deliver the game! First time.
Its because of Activison but i hate Blizzard much more because they have betrayed me, not Activison.

Blizzard == Traitors.

[ So leave Activision alone! Its a good old douchebags!! ]

Youtube:
I recommend whole TL community to spam their youtube channel with mass critics. Like I do. Just copy paste your posts. http://www.youtube.com/user/blizzard

PEACE and good luck!
This world is corrupted we should fight!!

I have been looking everywhere for the Battlecraft map in the release version. I'm very sorry to hear that you wont continue to work on it (I would be more than happy with the version I played in beta, though). It's one of the few custom maps that are both fun and have replay value.

Goodly

United States8 Posts

August 11 2010 11:55 GMT

#109

I wouldn't get too excited about blizzard fixing this anytime soon at all. I would bet anyone here $20.00 that we won't see a full completion of any adequate custom map system until January 1st, 2011.

Wow four months? But wait, thats not much time at all for blizzard, who has historically delayed really important updates like this one unbelievably long.

We can especially tell that it'll be a while by all of the bureaucratic mumbo jumbo about "We're working on solutions... ...we're not ready to share details or timelines" its just a bunch of crap. I dont mean to sound too hostile toward blizzard, but i mean seriously, your CEO boasts about being a "very profitable company" while acting super smug, meanwhile crap like this goes on.

*golf clap for blizzard*