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On November 10 2010 15:27 Gotmog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2010 22:53 twofold wrote:On November 09 2010 19:32 Gotmog wrote:Great map. I am spending last 3 days only practicing this map instead of laddering, since i decided i want to improve my macro as fast as i can. Practicing on Normal with a few tweaks, some + some - . I find this map much harder (hence more effective) for zerg. But it is said that zergs macro is a bit harder so that might be it. But if i was a T i would prefer to have it a bit harder, for example, microing a reaper and killing few zerglings over and over again. I am playing this map with avg 130-150+ apm as zerg, which is great for me considering that there is no spam involved. Also i am doing different builds, and using this map to smooth them out etc. Can't wait to get into laddering again, tomorrow, and see if i can notice an improvement in my macro  There must be a little bit of spam going on because I can finish the map on Hard mode as Zerg with 70~ish APM.  Stet_tcl : the map is awesome, and I find it's perfect for working on macro and warming up. More than half the time I play the map, though, I find that I can't rescue the executor more than once while playing as Zerg. After he's been dropped off the first time by an Overlord, I can select him but he won't respond to any of my commands. This bug prevents me from winning the map a lot of times, which is a little annoying! Really ? In a straight up game ? Could i get a replay possibly ? I find it hard to believe that you can get away with that low apm without some map abuse P.S Not calling you out or anything, just wondering how
Can't believe you accused me of lying like that! How dare you!
Kidding..
I couldn't get the replays to open when I played it offline, so I played the online version through the custom games. For some reason, my mouse was skipping about so it made it much harder to play than it should be.
Anyway - here's a replay. I messed up in a few ways, though. Firstly - forgot to build an extra gas geyser to get Overlord drops quicker, so I narrowly missed out on the final rescue of the executor. Secondly - I totally forgot about the third attack wave (it came really, really late) and let them kill my entire drone line before noticing, meaning I had a lot less Zerglings than usual - totally dumb mistake.
Either way, the CC went down on the last second and that final drop was seconds away from being completed. I could have recorded a win for you, but I want to go ladder.
Average APM was 90-ish, I believe.
http://www.mediafire.com/?nfvxbqrfhe7c1vb
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Thank you
Will check it out as soon as i get back home ^^
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Finally beat hard as 'toss, horrah!
I have to admit though, I don't make my gateways into warp gates, partly because I'm always queued up, and partly because its much easier.
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hey look a useful map thats not like TANK DEFENSE... thanks for the bump
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excellent map =)
very f-ing hard though.. I have a lot of problems beating normal =/
i guess my multi tasking is baaaaaaaad
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I do think easy should be easy.... You need for us mere mortals in silver or bronze
Great map. Protoss is the easiest i must say. Get a bunch of warpgates and mass stalkers.
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On November 20 2010 12:51 holydog wrote:I do think easy should be easy.... You need for us mere mortals in silver or bronze Great map. Protoss is the easiest i must say. Get a bunch of warpgates and mass stalkers.
you didn't get the point of the map if your goal is just to mass stalker and try to win
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Mass stalkers? Would of thought that'd get owned by the siege tanks and marauders..
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I would really love a "Restart" button instead of the "Defeat" window. This way I can just get back into the game and not having to go through all the loading screens.
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On November 22 2010 16:17 PET wrote:
I would really love a "Restart" button instead of the "Defeat" window. This way I can just get back into the game and not having to go through all the loading screens.
Agreed! There are many tweaks that this map needs. Did the developer of this map stop development? Can anyone else pick up development?
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thanks so much for this! Just started playing it today, already went up from easy to normal although I can't beat that consistently yet. Really helps immensely in my Ladder games, I find that I have lots of time to spare even when I do all my stuff! Love it!
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Wow I just came back to the map after a long abstinence... What do you build to break that siegetank defense? I massed units on normal including immortals, spent my money, constantly produced probes, but I just can't get through those tanks...
On October 27 2010 10:38 Aurus wrote:
Hi guys, I'm new here in the forum and I'm having a strange problem on normal mode, after rescuing the high templar the first time I can't do it a second, the messenge "this ability can only target friendly units" appears, any clue to what is happening? I want to keep practicing and improving my game but this "bug" or whatever is kinda bugging me(haha the bug is bugging... ok I stopped). Just for the record, I send all my overlords to the high templar location as their spawning location so I just click and load, don't know if the problem is there. Tough it doesn't make much sense to me.
That's because the Executor is not your unit. It only becomes your unit when you put a own unit next to it. Befor that you obviously can't use the load command on it. So just fly next to the templar and then pick him up.
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I go with Zealot/Immortal, works great. Just got to keep up with your macro.
*Although* if the Terran attacks you with cloaked banshees that game is pretty much screwed. :3
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I downloaded this back at release, and couldn't come close and eventually forgot all about it. Well, I came back to it today and beat Medium on my first try, my APM averaging at 60-70. It was delicious. And I guess this is further proof that I should really mount an all-nighter so I can get out of Bronze.
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If you load this map up on "play vs AI" in the singleplayer tab, you can use features like quick save, pause and restart. This can help with practice by allowing you to keep repeating sections you need help with.
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This map is awesome! I would recommend all gold and platinum level players try this out to up their game. After only a few times playing through this I'm finding I'm able to pay attention to way more things at once in my ladder play. Superb work OP.
One thing I would greatly appreciate is a restart button with units respawning and resources being reset instead of a defeat screen (so you don't have to reload), and the option to restart at any time (for when you mess up your BO or make some other stupid mistake). I know this would require a lot of annoying coding but it would help immensely in getting more practice in.
Thank you sir, great map!
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What is the normal way to micro the probe away from the zergling? Should I move it on the main screen or should I move him by clicking on the mini map? Mini map allows me to do more in the main town, but not sure if I am practicing it right, and I should be manually moving him in the main screen then using hot keys to do everything else in the my town, or a mixture of both.
I just want to make sure I am practicing this the best and most efficient way.
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^ - I'm double tapping the hotkey and setting a command + Way point I find that I have a fair amount of time to do stuff doing it that way But I am doing it on easy :3
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That is what I was thinking I should be doing. But it was easier to just click on hotkey for probe and shift-click on mini map to set a new way point. But I did not think easier was the best way I should be doing it. Thanks for replying with your method.
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ridiculously hard and EFFECTIVE map. I'm high-level gold and have failed on easy... twice. After reading the descriptions i cant wait to abuse the practice potential of this map. THANK YOU!
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