• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:34
CEST 11:34
KST 18:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)76Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4) SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup Back to SC2 after 14 years - Protoss CTRL groups?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released 20-year-old Valorant player starting StarCraft Bot on ladder BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy returning?
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8730 users

R2_Flaf_G5_G1 - Page 2

Forum Index > Replays
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
January 11 2010 18:22 GMT
#21
My friend did a test once and IIRC max supply of DTs beats max supply of ultralisks. Maybe that's what he was going for, haha.
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 00:50:27
January 12 2010 00:47 GMT
#22
A late sair tech switch with DTs is really powerful. Although I'd say moreso in a defensive context than trying to bust someone's base/expansion.

There's basically no way a zerg can attack into your bases or engage in a fight in the middle of a map when you got as many sairs as G5 had (overlords just die instantly and it takes too long to send new ones).

G5 however prolly got nervous when his DTs made no offensive damage, and started hunting OLs in Flaf's bases/expansions instead, losing many of his sairs in the process which pretty much left his DTs of no use in a defensive context... Probably even made his army composition weaker than had he not built DTs as Flaf could safely bring overlords to battles.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 01:50:53
January 12 2010 01:50 GMT
#23
OO
well if i'm not totally mistaken plague or ensnare on cloaked units gives u vision of them. so why do u even needs lords, u can just plague the dts and kill them
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28905 Posts
January 12 2010 02:03 GMT
#24
it isn't plausible to use plague as a sole defense against dt, it's more of an emergency semi-counter.
Moderator
po1nT
Profile Joined March 2007
Romania17 Posts
January 12 2010 08:51 GMT
#25
ooh man , to many dt`s ??? maybe you should rewatch the Nal_ra vs Mondi blizzcon game where mondi had the whole f****ng map and nal_ra was hanging from a thread and then he went corsair + dt(many dts ) and won the thing ... so going for so many dt`s was a good choice the problem was that he didnt manage to deal enough damage.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7658 Posts
January 12 2010 10:08 GMT
#26
On January 12 2010 00:35 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 00:18 zer0das wrote:
Why was it arrogant? It gave him a lot more mobility and it would have easily won him the game if he recognized his timing window where there was zero detection in the upper left (or used shuttles with some of those dts on the main). And even failing that, it would have set him up for a late game with reavers rather nicely (if he got them earlier...).


what good are 12(?) dts for when u want to attack a base? 1 spore at each base is enough to prevent drone harass, even if u kill every lord on the map. instead of going rvr like he did later at his expo at 3. this mass dt style is something i only saw from mana until today (on colo against some romanian z, maybe that was flaf too t.t). i mean, it's not like it was some fancy dweb into hatchery snipe style.. imo there is no other explanation but arrogance/cockiness.


hmm how about this explanation ..... g5 is a fucking weird ass starcraft player who has even beat a pro gamer with scouts (in pvz) (and me) and he simply was doing what he always does which is push the envelope of what is possible and what will work.

G5 wasn't siting at home laughing during these games he was like all these players, one stressed out nerd trying his best to win an important game. He wouldn't go out of his way to lose in the tsl sorry ....
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 12 2010 16:01 GMT
#27
On January 12 2010 03:22 QuakerOats wrote:
My friend did a test once and IIRC max supply of DTs beats max supply of ultralisks. Maybe that's what he was going for, haha.
You've got to be talking about what happens with no upgrades, right?
Infested Terran
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
80 Posts
January 13 2010 14:10 GMT
#28
I had similar thoughts when watching this game.
I wondered why did he made so many DTs. If he switched to reavers earlier (+ possibly expanded earlier) he would win.
I am strong, I am zerg, I am the future!
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 00:24:42
January 14 2010 00:24 GMT
#29
13 gates with 6k+ mins in bank isn't too good... If g5 made more gates he would be able to reinforce quicker.
Just look at ~28. minute - lots of gates with 5 unit queues. That's true that mostly zealots but you can also see queues with like 3 zealots + 2 hts, 2 hts, etc. You really could tell the difference between both players' reinforcement speeds...


Plus yeah, such late reavers really hurt one's eyes QQ
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3700 Posts
November 17 2010 21:47 GMT
#30
I just DL'd this replay in a frenzy of TSL nostalgia... WHAT IS G5 DOING?!
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 27m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 1472
firebathero 918
Shuttle 451
Jaedong 430
BeSt 368
Hyuk 364
Mong 341
Hyun 301
Soma 187
Stork 120
[ Show more ]
PianO 92
Sexy 87
Shine 62
Mind 59
910 55
Rush 41
Larva 34
sSak 34
Shinee 29
Bale 25
Hm[arnc] 24
ZergMaN 24
ZerO 23
sorry 18
HiyA 17
Sharp 15
Noble 12
Terrorterran 8
hero 1
Dota 2
XcaliburYe29
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1232
shoxiejesuss866
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King311
Other Games
gofns36696
summit1g7688
singsing677
ceh9616
KnowMe134
Pyrionflax126
Livibee59
Trikslyr28
ZerO(Twitch)4
DeMusliM1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick472
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream30
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1081
• Stunt354
Other Games
• Shiphtur419
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
1h 27m
Patches Events
6h 27m
The PondCast
1d
INu's Battles
1d 1h
Percival vs SHIN
Zoun vs herO
OSC
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
OSC
2 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.