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QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
January 11 2010 18:22 GMT
#21
My friend did a test once and IIRC max supply of DTs beats max supply of ultralisks. Maybe that's what he was going for, haha.
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 00:50:27
January 12 2010 00:47 GMT
#22
A late sair tech switch with DTs is really powerful. Although I'd say moreso in a defensive context than trying to bust someone's base/expansion.

There's basically no way a zerg can attack into your bases or engage in a fight in the middle of a map when you got as many sairs as G5 had (overlords just die instantly and it takes too long to send new ones).

G5 however prolly got nervous when his DTs made no offensive damage, and started hunting OLs in Flaf's bases/expansions instead, losing many of his sairs in the process which pretty much left his DTs of no use in a defensive context... Probably even made his army composition weaker than had he not built DTs as Flaf could safely bring overlords to battles.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 01:50:53
January 12 2010 01:50 GMT
#23
OO
well if i'm not totally mistaken plague or ensnare on cloaked units gives u vision of them. so why do u even needs lords, u can just plague the dts and kill them
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28722 Posts
January 12 2010 02:03 GMT
#24
it isn't plausible to use plague as a sole defense against dt, it's more of an emergency semi-counter.
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po1nT
Profile Joined March 2007
Romania17 Posts
January 12 2010 08:51 GMT
#25
ooh man , to many dt`s ??? maybe you should rewatch the Nal_ra vs Mondi blizzcon game where mondi had the whole f****ng map and nal_ra was hanging from a thread and then he went corsair + dt(many dts ) and won the thing ... so going for so many dt`s was a good choice the problem was that he didnt manage to deal enough damage.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
January 12 2010 10:08 GMT
#26
On January 12 2010 00:35 Djin)ftw( wrote:
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On January 12 2010 00:18 zer0das wrote:
Why was it arrogant? It gave him a lot more mobility and it would have easily won him the game if he recognized his timing window where there was zero detection in the upper left (or used shuttles with some of those dts on the main). And even failing that, it would have set him up for a late game with reavers rather nicely (if he got them earlier...).


what good are 12(?) dts for when u want to attack a base? 1 spore at each base is enough to prevent drone harass, even if u kill every lord on the map. instead of going rvr like he did later at his expo at 3. this mass dt style is something i only saw from mana until today (on colo against some romanian z, maybe that was flaf too t.t). i mean, it's not like it was some fancy dweb into hatchery snipe style.. imo there is no other explanation but arrogance/cockiness.


hmm how about this explanation ..... g5 is a fucking weird ass starcraft player who has even beat a pro gamer with scouts (in pvz) (and me) and he simply was doing what he always does which is push the envelope of what is possible and what will work.

G5 wasn't siting at home laughing during these games he was like all these players, one stressed out nerd trying his best to win an important game. He wouldn't go out of his way to lose in the tsl sorry ....
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 12 2010 16:01 GMT
#27
On January 12 2010 03:22 QuakerOats wrote:
My friend did a test once and IIRC max supply of DTs beats max supply of ultralisks. Maybe that's what he was going for, haha.
You've got to be talking about what happens with no upgrades, right?
Infested Terran
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
80 Posts
January 13 2010 14:10 GMT
#28
I had similar thoughts when watching this game.
I wondered why did he made so many DTs. If he switched to reavers earlier (+ possibly expanded earlier) he would win.
I am strong, I am zerg, I am the future!
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 00:24:42
January 14 2010 00:24 GMT
#29
13 gates with 6k+ mins in bank isn't too good... If g5 made more gates he would be able to reinforce quicker.
Just look at ~28. minute - lots of gates with 5 unit queues. That's true that mostly zealots but you can also see queues with like 3 zealots + 2 hts, 2 hts, etc. You really could tell the difference between both players' reinforcement speeds...


Plus yeah, such late reavers really hurt one's eyes QQ
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
November 17 2010 21:47 GMT
#30
I just DL'd this replay in a frenzy of TSL nostalgia... WHAT IS G5 DOING?!
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