Chinese IPs banned - Page 6

On April 03 2008 15:49 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
sigh

China CONSTANTLY has events with tons of money where foreigners are for the most part excluded. Sometimes they invite 2-4 euro/americans or allow "us" to play in their qualifiers. They do this because they have their own leagues where professional teams, broadcasting and money is all on the line. We as "foreigners" FINALLY get something that we have been drooling over while watching koreans/chinese indulge in what we all want for ourselves and you guys are going to bitch?

Fact: Most chinese have connection problems with non Chinese.
Fact2: This problem is compounded with MORE people in the game IE casters, recorders, refs etc.
Fact3: Some chinese FLAT OUT cannot be in the same game as foreigners because they dont have the connection of a PJ/Lx/F91 etc.

So when they hit a foreigner in the playoff do we reroute the entire tourney? Do we DQ one of the players? Do we disallow casters? Do we make the foreigner suffer through the lag with 5k at stake? No. We dont. That isn't fair. It's illogical and unnecessary.

Can we for once have a foreigner event where it is truly a matter of what foreigner is going to make themselves rich? I am tired of having the chinese exclude us from events / leagues and then when we have one of our own their delegates start bitching about fairness and equality.. common? I am sorry but logistically they have historically been a nuisance. Aside from that they have been perfectly fine ignoring foreigners for the most part.

On April 03 2008 17:58 IdrA wrote:
all the talk about proxies and chinese pro's connections is kinda suspect. media played a clanwar against some chinese players bly set up and every single game lagged, we had to switch players half a dozen times because alot of the lag was just unplayable.
the blanket decision may seem kinda unfair, but doing it on a case by case basis is only marginally better, if at all. you have to decide how much lag is too much(which will lead to controversy in itself), because i doubt any of them will have no lag at all. then the ones who do have to be replaced will be even more pissed cuz they wasted the time qualifying and cant play. the admins then have to go through the hassle of getting the replacements on top of having to test all the chinese players in the first place (and it would be a decent investment of time, because quite a few chinese players could qualify and quite a few would have unplayable lag)

pgl and the other chinese leagues are relevant, simply because it means theres less reason to go out of the way to accommodate the chinese. in the first news post it says koreans arent allowed because they already have their own leagues, this is to give foreigners something big and important and rewarding to play in. the chinese already have other things like that as well so why bend over backwards to try to fit them in here.