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they are two main internet providers in China. one of them has good connection with other countries. i know most chinese players have no problem to play with korean, americans and western europeans but cant play with easten europeans because those ppl also have bad internet.
there are also some ppl can only play 1on1 without any observers, how would u deal with them? ban?
you guys give this kinda money, but only let white boys play it.
take a look at wgt final tour. 50 bucks, ppl like mitzzz, xiaozi,Strelok ，ToT)Gosia( iG.Target ，Excello.IefNaij ，Excello.CaStrO ToT)ClouD( LRM)Yayba oldy.... almost all the good players played in that tour for only 50 dollars. what is the point you wanna give out so much money?? of course you wanna attract more good gamers.
my suggestion is
for the ladder, chinese can play with korean to qualify, obviously it will be harder than only play in the TSL channel with no korean. after qualified, top16 will all have money rite? 100 dollar. it those chinese believe they can take at least 100 dollars, they may get some better connections, Im living in Canada, I play dota with my friend in china, we have perfect connections, I know there are some good and expensive internet service in China. my friend Jedi, play in wgt final tour, he is in china, he played with oldy with 6 obervers and have no lag. i have that replay(but he loss....) I know F91 has very good connections, he play for mym everyweek, nenver hear ppl complaind about his connections, LX also has good internet because he's Suppoters proviede him something like 10mb internet service.
you guys need to try to slove the problem not just cut it off make ur life easy.
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2 more questions
you ban chinese IP or ppl living in china?
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who the hell are the members of chinese community?
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Im leader of chinese national team on Iccup and one of admins in 8da.com I have never evert hear of that community
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on second thought, nahhhh
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why don't you guys just run some tests with chinese gamers (they'll happily oblige i'm sure) and see how that goes? i mean i would be pretty bummed if i lived in china!
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my first question was are progamers allowed to play in this ? and I'm sure just to let a few select players with good connections play will cause even more hassle, as those "normal" ppl with poorer connections will start complaining and say they can have good connections too, (eg. they can just go to these expensive lans you are talkin about in china when testing connections, etc.. o_Oa)
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On April 02 2008 09:05 LooNg)119est wrote:
2 more questions
you ban chinese IP or ppl living in china?
and
who the hell are the members of chinese community?
that's actually an interesting question. if chinese get proxies and shows a non-china ip, what do you do then? ~_~
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"you guys give this kinda money, but only let white boys play it."
well... not all american/europeans are white...
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On April 02 2008 10:55 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2008 09:05 LooNg)119est wrote:
2 more questions
you ban chinese IP or ppl living in china?
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who the hell are the members of chinese community? that's actually an interesting question. if chinese get proxies and shows a non-china ip, what do you do then? ~_~
I'm going to assume they can still play since it is only states Chinese IP are banned.
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Very strange reason to ban Chinese people. There are tons of other countries that might have bad connections.
Who will be denied as well?
If it's the same reason as not allowing Koreans, why not just say so? This sounds like an excuse to me.
Yeah, and under the rules using a proxy seems to be allowed. Unless they change the rules again.
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Clearly Hot_Bid hates the Chinese.
Moltke Complex?
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i think it's just china that specifically has this internet problem vs other countries...
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http://www.iccup.com/iccladder/1x1/cn/
this is chinese 1v1 rank on iccup.
some of them play more than 200 games. clearly, they are not play against each other.
why dont ban all chinese and korean from battle net and iccup. leave u guys in peace
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I actually kind of agree, in the clan wars I ran some connections were terrible but many were excellent. If you guys are truly worried about broadcasting games, do what svs starleague did and broadcast the replay and commentate it as if it was live, no one will know the difference if you cover up the bottom right part, and it doesn't really matter even if the audience knows it's a replay. So on second thought this is a very harsh decision which I think is unfair to a lot of Chinese players who have excellent connections just for these type of opportunites and you deny them the chance based general hearsay.
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On April 02 2008 16:19 LooNg)119est wrote:http://www.iccup.com/iccladder/1x1/cn/this is chinese 1v1 rank on iccup. some of them play more than 200 games. clearly, they are not play against each other. why dont ban all chinese and korean from battle net and iccup. leave u guys in peace
90% of those games are vs Koreans and fellow Chinese. Korean ips have to be banned for the obvious reason that progamers would rape everyone.
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I maybe sleep deprived but I feel like this is really about the general notion that Chinese starcraft stands alone and is not a part of the foreign bw scene.
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so yea, if worst comes to worst just broadcast the replay, I don't think this should be a big enough reason to ban 1.6 billion people from the ladder. Most of all, can you guys please pm me your thoughts or something, I have knowledge and information to contribute on this matter. don't get moltke on us.
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Wufan is an idiot please don't listen to him, and please don't tell me he was your chinese consultant for this decision.
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EPT
