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On April 01 2008 14:01 littlechava wrote:qft the decision makes sense, i just wish the chinese players had better connections, i've always wanted to see how the top chinese gamers stacked up vs other top non koreans - xLo gave me a bit when the recruited a lot of chinese players, but they died like 3 weeks afterwards ;p
Many Chinese players have to play at 2 a.m or even 4 a.m for xlo clan war,at last xlo didnt pay money for any Chinese player just due to their lag or some communicate barrier reasons.but xlo never talked about it with them until using them 3 weeks lol.
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That's too bad. That's almost 2 years salary for some in China.
I was predicting China to win most of the money since they were 2nd only to Korea. Now I can't guess who will win TL Starleague. It's makes it more interesting 
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just so everyone knows:
The korean term "gosu", which l337 posters like to drop, comes from the chinese “gaoshou” （高手）. It literally means "high hand" or advanced player or "badass".
anyway, i hope the China  is an APRIL FOOLS joke. otherwise RIDIC
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I believe this is a joke because there are plenty of countries that participate and have much worse connections than chinese. Just watch TLAttack or Ascension vods and you'll see that lag is a problem in every country when creating international games.
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I highly doubt this is a joke. Chinese internet is ridiculously worse than every other country's internet. Good decision, although this is quite sad 
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Manifesto7 Japan. April 01 2008 13:48. Posts 12065
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On April 01 2008 18:52 Spenguin wrote:
Manifesto7 Japan. April 01 2008 13:48. Posts 12065
What does that have to with the banning? He's a white guy from Canada IIRC.
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lol... ~_~ all u racist cunts!~
i mean in theory, they can all fly down to some where say hongkong and play the playoff right? ~_~
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On April 01 2008 18:58 [X]Ken_D wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2008 18:52 Spenguin wrote:
Manifesto7 Japan. April 01 2008 13:48. Posts 12065 What does that have to with the banning? He's a white guy from Canada IIRC.
he was joking. ~_~
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I like this one because it is not as obvious as a dedicated news post.
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Was the Chinese informed of this?
Because I afraid not many may understand english T.T
Well i guess the chinese gaming site will translate this news..
Poor China...
Maybe they can come to Hong Kong to play =P
THe connection is better here.
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I don't think any Chinese players should have hard feelings about it because they have the PGL which has more money and equal or easier competition and it's happening at the same time as the TSL. They can all focus on that now rather than trying to keep two options open.
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Here stood nonsense. -.,-
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On April 01 2008 20:37 zatic wrote:
I like this one because it is not as obvious as a dedicated news post.
...check out the "[TSL] The First 36 Hours" news post. It's not dedicated but you get the point. 
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On April 01 2008 21:01 NonY[rC] wrote:
I don't think any Chinese players should have hard feelings about it because they have the PGL which has more money and equal or easier competition and it's happening at the same time as the TSL. They can all focus on that now rather than trying to keep two options open.
I disagree. Hosting an "international" event and letting only developed countries with good internet connection while banning the rest is just not really fair. Everybody deserves a chance to show what they've got. You cannot "assume" their connection is not good enough for the stream server UNTIL YOU TRY IT WITH THEM (which I hope the staffs did do it before issuing the ban to ALL Chinese IPs). A very poor decison made by the staff this time IMHO.
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Yeah but what do you do when they get into the game and ARE lagging.
Do you kick them then and replace them with someone else? That will be even more ludicrous.
In saying that however you can get lag issues with anyone, but it's less likely to happen without the Chinese players.
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It's a tough call either way, but you can understand why the TL folk did it.
Just curious though; Russian and even Australian folk are known to have lag issues sometimes so what happens if you are in an important game and it becomes unbearably laggy? Will the rep be saved and commented on later?
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On April 01 2008 21:56 LibertyTerran wrote:
I disagree. Hosting an "international" event and letting only developed countries with good internet connection while banning the rest is just not really fair.
Excluding only two countries in the world is not enough to warrant putting international in quotes. The event is still overwhelmingly international. There are many developing/underdeveloped countries participating so saying that only developed countries can participate is simply incorrect. As far as allowing only participants with good internet connections, what else do you expect? Is it not fair that LANs only allow participants with bodies? You put this "rule" in a negative light but really it should be in a positive light: anyone who is able to participate is allowed to participate.
On April 01 2008 21:56 LibertyTerran wrote:Everybody deserves a chance to show what they've got.
We agree. China has PGL running simultaneously to TSL with broadcasted games and more prize money. Go for it Chinese players!
On April 01 2008 21:56 LibertyTerran wrote:You cannot "assume" their connection is not good enough for the stream server UNTIL YOU TRY IT WITH THEM (which I hope the staffs did do it before issuing the ban to ALL Chinese IPs).
There are years of evidence pointing toward unplayable laggy games between Chinese players and players from the rest of the world. It's not possible to test every Chinese player with every potential opponent in advance to test for lag. The decision has to be made now and, given the prevalence of lag, there is really no choice.
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On April 01 2008 17:32 Cunty wrote:
just so everyone knows:
The korean term "gosu", which l337 posters like to drop, comes from the chinese “gaoshou” （高手）. It literally means "high hand" or advanced player or "badass".
Does it have anything to do with this o_o? Just so you know, due to historical reasons there are like thousands of Chinese-origin words in Korean, Japanese and Vietnamese language.
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