EPTOn November 14 2008 09:13 malongo wrote:
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I think your post his very poor, given that the discussion here is about overall performance and quality on a one month timeframe on 3 leagues and your only shouting kal 3-2 stork on msl. a) I watched the serie and rewatched to post here. b) Under my understanding of the game stork played very bad on games 1, and game 5, or at least on a very lesser level than he played against bisu, and best. He made unforced mistakes that ended in kal taking the advantage (wich kal capitalized) c) In games 1 and 3 kal tried plainly bad bos for a pvp R8 d) If a player dont prepare something "specific" for a game or group of games in a BOX series chances are he will be underplaying because he wont surprise his oponent nor prepare against his oponents surprises. That alone is like 15 % overall less play. e) Im not saying kal didnt play well but i think he played far from excellent f) If you go watch stork vs bisu and stork vs best and still dont think stork lost more than kal won, then maybe im stupid.
Of course thats what im arguing, that some other players deserve that spot. ggplay and calm have accomplished this season as much as kal from what i see. ggplay got R4 on osl on a tougher path than kal, calm has a nice 7-2 PL record that i value has much as a R8 on any individual starleague. The last thing here is that even if you dont agree with these accomplishments, PR dont speaks of wins only but overall gameplay, and didnt saw a soo good overall play from kal in his games.
I realize that those games dont count, and I realize that PR is not going to change no matter what for any month after released, im not an idiot. Kal was seeded on msl his full path was:
stork+ sea on group stages, Iris R16, stork R8. His games against Iris=> poor, could have gone 1-2 easily, and im my opinion fantasy, forgg and some other terran could have trampled him. Then stork, and i think i made this point clear up the to the fanboy. I pointed that "nobody else deserve this spot" up in this post too. I have only one question to you oneother If kal wouldnt have won the last game against stork, (hypothetically) would still kal be number 8? im not trying to prove nothing nor trash your PR. Thanks in advance for your answer.
PS this is probably my last post here I dont want to risk a ban for being "too argumentative and critical of staff in the PR threads"
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On November 14 2008 02:37 TarsTarkas wrote:
No, Kal definitely belongs in the power rank - and OneOther was right about where to put him.
You say that Stork was playing at 60% of his capacity against Kal? Did you watch those games? Stork played very well (stork-like, in fact). The problem was that he didn't have too many specific things prepared.
Kal's play was excellent in that series, you can't say that Stork lost - Kal won it. His play in that series alone could place him on the power rank of this month.
No, Kal definitely belongs in the power rank - and OneOther was right about where to put him.
You say that Stork was playing at 60% of his capacity against Kal? Did you watch those games? Stork played very well (stork-like, in fact). The problem was that he didn't have too many specific things prepared.
Kal's play was excellent in that series, you can't say that Stork lost - Kal won it. His play in that series alone could place him on the power rank of this month.
I think your post his very poor, given that the discussion here is about overall performance and quality on a one month timeframe on 3 leagues and your only shouting kal 3-2 stork on msl. a) I watched the serie and rewatched to post here. b) Under my understanding of the game stork played very bad on games 1, and game 5, or at least on a very lesser level than he played against bisu, and best. He made unforced mistakes that ended in kal taking the advantage (wich kal capitalized) c) In games 1 and 3 kal tried plainly bad bos for a pvp R8 d) If a player dont prepare something "specific" for a game or group of games in a BOX series chances are he will be underplaying because he wont surprise his oponent nor prepare against his oponents surprises. That alone is like 15 % overall less play. e) Im not saying kal didnt play well but i think he played far from excellent f) If you go watch stork vs bisu and stork vs best and still dont think stork lost more than kal won, then maybe im stupid.
On November 14 2008 04:10 Darth Peter wrote:
There are no players more deserving of a spot than Kal. After he beat Stork,I didn't want to put him on the PR either,but FBH played like an ass. Got eliminated by Bogus,lame in PL,and Bisu 3-0d him. Okay Bisu is the man,but even then FBH should have won at least one game. Luxury,Calm. They haven't accomplished anything to overtake Kal yet. Maybe next month,if Luxury is actually starting to win good matches amd if Calm beats Stork. And if the Destroyer beats Free,he definitely deserves a spot,if he can keep it up in the Proleague like this.
There are no players more deserving of a spot than Kal. After he beat Stork,I didn't want to put him on the PR either,but FBH played like an ass. Got eliminated by Bogus,lame in PL,and Bisu 3-0d him. Okay Bisu is the man,but even then FBH should have won at least one game. Luxury,Calm. They haven't accomplished anything to overtake Kal yet. Maybe next month,if Luxury is actually starting to win good matches amd if Calm beats Stork. And if the Destroyer beats Free,he definitely deserves a spot,if he can keep it up in the Proleague like this.
Of course thats what im arguing, that some other players deserve that spot. ggplay and calm have accomplished this season as much as kal from what i see. ggplay got R4 on osl on a tougher path than kal, calm has a nice 7-2 PL record that i value has much as a R8 on any individual starleague. The last thing here is that even if you dont agree with these accomplishments, PR dont speaks of wins only but overall gameplay, and didnt saw a soo good overall play from kal in his games.
On November 14 2008 07:46 OneOther wrote:
I know Kal isn't great in PL, which is why I put him at the eighth spot. I cannot see pusan, calm or ggplay above Kal because after all, he beat tough players to reach the semifinals of MSL. You do realize his games vs jangbi didn't count towards this, right? Kal isn't _great_ but there is nobody who deserves his current spot more than he does.
I know Kal isn't great in PL, which is why I put him at the eighth spot. I cannot see pusan, calm or ggplay above Kal because after all, he beat tough players to reach the semifinals of MSL. You do realize his games vs jangbi didn't count towards this, right? Kal isn't _great_ but there is nobody who deserves his current spot more than he does.
I realize that those games dont count, and I realize that PR is not going to change no matter what for any month after released, im not an idiot. Kal was seeded on msl his full path was:
stork+ sea on group stages, Iris R16, stork R8. His games against Iris=> poor, could have gone 1-2 easily, and im my opinion fantasy, forgg and some other terran could have trampled him. Then stork, and i think i made this point clear up the to the fanboy. I pointed that "nobody else deserve this spot" up in this post too. I have only one question to you oneother If kal wouldnt have won the last game against stork, (hypothetically) would still kal be number 8? im not trying to prove nothing nor trash your PR. Thanks in advance for your answer.
PS this is probably my last post here I dont want to risk a ban for being "too argumentative and critical of staff in the PR threads"
Kal also beat Stork in the groups + GGplay`s path in the OSL was waaaaaay easier. How can u say that he met stronger opponents ?! He only meet Flash, and Flash wasn`t in his best form right there, and we all know what happened on plasma. Check out TLPD, he defeated
BestGod, and then Rock and 
Light. I mean c`mon Sea>all of them.Oh and relax, ur not goin to be banned. Please continue to post. If ur posts are presented in a mannered way, you`ll not get banned
