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Dr.Green
Profile Joined October 2008
Philippines264 Posts
November 11 2008 05:38 GMT
#161
Bisu is BACK!! WOOHOOO!!
Smoke weed everyday!
TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
November 11 2008 09:28 GMT
#162
OSL finals for Stork on not, Kal played pretty damn well in that series. This is not really disputable.
Those who think they know everything, are very annoying to those of us who do. - Mark Twain
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 11 2008 09:53 GMT
#163
On November 11 2008 18:28 TarsTarkas wrote:
OSL finals for Stork on not, Kal played pretty damn well in that series. This is not really disputable.

I don't think anybody is denying that Kal played well. It's just about where to place more weight on.
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1080 Posts
November 11 2008 10:55 GMT
#164
Where the hell is Luxury?
mostly harmless
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
November 11 2008 13:40 GMT
#165
On November 11 2008 19:55 parkin wrote:
Where the hell is Luxury?

I dont remember well, but I dont think he qualified for either starleague. Winning the WCG and playing well in PL got him to the CNBC.

Imo Flash should be switched with Jangbi, Fantasy switeched with Kal, and Calm should be tenth instead of ForGG.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
November 11 2008 14:25 GMT
#166
On November 11 2008 22:40 3 Lions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 19:55 parkin wrote:
Where the hell is Luxury?

I dont remember well, but I dont think he qualified for either starleague. Winning the WCG and playing well in PL got him to the CNBC.

Imo Flash should be switched with Jangbi, Fantasy switeched with Kal, and Calm should be tenth instead of ForGG.


I don't think much separates Flash and Jangbi, and between Fantasy and Kal. But there's no way Calm deserves top 10. Not after losing 2 games in a PL series and then losing to Bisu in GOM. Nothing wrong with losing to Bisu, but it doesn't help matters. ForGG's only problem is that Stork absolutely owns him. And they met in the MSL Ro16.
Meh
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
November 11 2008 18:02 GMT
#167
I think we need a new TLPD picture of Jangbi. lol. He looks like a fat 5 year old in that picture.
Graphics
TarsTarkas
Profile Joined April 2007
United States169 Posts
November 11 2008 18:17 GMT
#168
On November 12 2008 03:02 SilverskY wrote:
I think we need a new TLPD picture of Jangbi. lol. He looks like a fat 5 year old in that picture.


I agree - I see that picture, and begin to irrationally dislike him - even though I know what he actually looks like.
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-11 18:43:21
November 11 2008 18:42 GMT
#169
Savior should be first on the CBNC list and maybe add Effort. I think people who are doing good in GOM at least should be in the CBNC . Other then that i think this is the most accurate PR right now .
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 11 2008 19:58 GMT
#170
On November 12 2008 03:42 raga4ka wrote:
Savior should be first on the CBNC list and maybe add Effort. I think people who are doing good in GOM at least should be in the CBNC . Other then that i think this is the most accurate PR right now .


Effort hasn't been playing in the individual leagues, which makes power ranking him tough.
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
November 11 2008 21:39 GMT
#171
On November 12 2008 04:58 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2008 03:42 raga4ka wrote:
Savior should be first on the CBNC list and maybe add Effort. I think people who are doing good in GOM at least should be in the CBNC . Other then that i think this is the most accurate PR right now .


Effort hasn't been playing in the individual leagues, which makes power ranking him tough.


He beat Hwasin in the GSI Bo 3 last i check that was a league and he is showing some good play in PL to .
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
November 12 2008 00:36 GMT
#172
JANGBI FTW
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
November 12 2008 01:19 GMT
#173
On November 12 2008 09:36 OneOther wrote:
JANGBI FTW
Random?
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tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
November 12 2008 02:08 GMT
#174
damn so many tosses
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-12 03:38:45
November 12 2008 03:37 GMT
#175
sorry - my bad
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
November 12 2008 11:32 GMT
#176
On November 12 2008 06:39 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2008 04:58 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
On November 12 2008 03:42 raga4ka wrote:
Savior should be first on the CBNC list and maybe add Effort. I think people who are doing good in GOM at least should be in the CBNC . Other then that i think this is the most accurate PR right now .


Effort hasn't been playing in the individual leagues, which makes power ranking him tough.


He beat Hwasin in the GSI Bo 3 last i check that was a league and he is showing some good play in PL to .

Its not an individual league in the sense that MSL and OSL are, were you have to go trough qualifiers to enter, and worst case scenario the dreaded offline qualifiers where people sometimes gets stuck for season after season. And qualifying to the league is often as hard as getting far in it. (Take Savior for example, owning up the MSL several season but never able to qualify for OSL)

In GOM virtually everyone gets to enter. (Still a good job by effort getting this far)
God Hates a Coward
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
November 12 2008 12:42 GMT
#177
I'm so glad to see free on that list Up till now the MSL has been much more interesting with much better players than the OSL. Too bad it has to end with 4 protoss players I just hope Jangbi or free manage to win this now.
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
November 12 2008 12:44 GMT
#178
On November 12 2008 20:32 Oystein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2008 06:39 raga4ka wrote:
On November 12 2008 04:58 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
On November 12 2008 03:42 raga4ka wrote:
Savior should be first on the CBNC list and maybe add Effort. I think people who are doing good in GOM at least should be in the CBNC . Other then that i think this is the most accurate PR right now .


Effort hasn't been playing in the individual leagues, which makes power ranking him tough.


He beat Hwasin in the GSI Bo 3 last i check that was a league and he is showing some good play in PL to .

Its not an individual league in the sense that MSL and OSL are, were you have to go trough qualifiers to enter, and worst case scenario the dreaded offline qualifiers where people sometimes gets stuck for season after season. And qualifying to the league is often as hard as getting far in it. (Take Savior for example, owning up the MSL several season but never able to qualify for OSL)

In GOM virtually everyone gets to enter. (Still a good job by effort getting this far)


well, effort had to win a lot of games to get this far. Although, I`m not saying he deserves a spot
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-12 14:11:40
November 12 2008 13:33 GMT
#179
On November 12 2008 20:32 Oystein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2008 06:39 raga4ka wrote:
On November 12 2008 04:58 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
On November 12 2008 03:42 raga4ka wrote:
Savior should be first on the CBNC list and maybe add Effort. I think people who are doing good in GOM at least should be in the CBNC . Other then that i think this is the most accurate PR right now .


Effort hasn't been playing in the individual leagues, which makes power ranking him tough.


He beat Hwasin in the GSI Bo 3 last i check that was a league and he is showing some good play in PL to .

Its not an individual league in the sense that MSL and OSL are, were you have to go trough qualifiers to enter, and worst case scenario the dreaded offline qualifiers where people sometimes gets stuck for season after season.


that's nonsense, MSL and OSL have seeded players too, who don't have to go trough quilfires, GSI has it too, just in a different way, they go after the Kespa ranking, not after the previous achievemnts in the respectice SL. And actually that's a better scenario, cuz what's fun in a SL where 2-3 of the best players fail to qualify for some odd reason, and ppl like Light, GGplay, Rock, Backho reach the ro16/8/4 (no offence to their fans, but they arent at luxury/best/jd/savior/etc level who failed to reach several times the SLs). With the seeded position u still have to beat like 6 very good player to won the title, including 2 bo5.

And qualifying to the league is often as hard as getting far in it. (Take Savior for example, owning up the MSL several season but never able to qualify for OSL)

In GOM virtually everyone gets to enter. (Still a good job by effort getting this far)


In MSL/OSL virtually everyone gets to enter as well, the seeded players have to beat less players to win the titles, in GSI Kespa top32 has to beat less players to win the title. Difference? Sure, but it's a legitime league just as the other 2.


The quote tag doesnt works for me, sry about that, i dont know how to fix it
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
November 12 2008 13:50 GMT
#180
remove the / from the first tag / go on the end (all are tha same way)
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
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