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Avidkeystamper
United States8554 Posts
On September 15 2008 10:05 Divinek wrote: You said it like luxury losing a zvz to only person with better zvz in the world was all that much of a demerit to him. First, Jaedong. Second, yes you are right, losing definitely isn't a demerit but should it come from the OSL Champion? No, it just shows that right now he has only one good (great) matchup. | ||
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Realpenguin
8253 Posts
Not sure if Best should have been raised up that high though... I'm expecting Midas+Savior to show up on the PR soon... | ||
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SaveYourSavior
United States1071 Posts
Nice power rank btw | ||
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pandabearguy
United States252 Posts
that's my only complaint, great job getting the PR together  | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
Stork has also won his last nine games if you don't count his WCG series against Jaedong, and he won those games in meaningful games, like MST and the OSL, and not freebies against XvP noobs in a meaningless invitational event. Yes I don't like Best, but at least I have an argument. | ||
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Ozarugold
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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sillyboy_tomato
United States157 Posts
anyways i kinda dont like the repetitve use of "patch". just got to get that out. anyways, ForGG should be lower in my opinion, since he only had such a few games you cant give him any higher of a rank (refer to your #10) so there are some contradictions | ||
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
On September 15 2008 10:29 ahole-surprise wrote: Best is too high up. Since his OSL bashing, he's lost to Leta, played one game in the OSL against a washed up Zerg in GGplay, and he pounced on XvP noobs like FBH and Jangbi in the STX masters, but lost to Sea in the same event. I can't see how you justify his being "the best protoss around" and a +5 ranking boost when he hasn't done anything that separates him from the players he beat out. Yea he lost to Jaedong in the WCG but he beat an amateur and KWANRO to get to Jaedong. Stork and Much beat Forgg and Flash respectively in the WCG, Stork actually qualified. Luxury also qualified for the WCG, got -3 in the rankings, and while Best's loss to Jaedong is used in Best's favor, it's used against Luxury. Stork has also won his last nine games if you don't count his WCG series against Jaedong, and he won those games in meaningful games, like MST and the OSL, and not freebies against XvP noobs in a meaningless invitational event. Yes I don't like Best, but at least I have an argument. BeSt played phenomenal vs GGPlay. JangBi isn't terrible PvPer.. look at his opponents. JangBi is an A level progamer and that mean's he is by no means a scrub in any mu. Is Stork, arguably the best PvPer in the world, bad because he lost to JangBi too? Calling fbh a vP stupid. It's not his strongest mu but if you look at all his recorded games ever he has never lost to anyone that was terrible PvT. The only player you can even give FBH shit for losing too is free and even then its barely even worth mention. People make fbh's weakness in TvP out to be much more than it is. The only reason if any best shouldn't be up that far is because he was booted out of MSL pre mst. | ||
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
Not even fuckin close. Best has done nothing to improve his image from last month to this, and therefore a jump, let alone a substantial one, is uncalled for. That being said, its your first time, so mistakes can be made. Good pr in general. | ||
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
Main reason why Best shouldn't be that high up, summarized from my previous post: -There are others who have played better than him since the last power rank and in more meaningful matches (Stork) or who achieved more (Luxury actually qualified for WCG). Best's games against FBH and Jangbi were in the STX Masters which is a meaningless event, and he lost to Sea in that event as well. "Best played phenomenal vs GGPLAY" doesn't address my problem with him, which is that GGplay is a washed up player. Also, a lot of the players have played "phenomenal" against various players in August, players who are better than GGPlay. and also, as you mentioned, you use Luxury's ousting from the MST against him, but at least he made it to the MST, unlike Best. | ||
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
This isn't the KeSPA ranking. in the pre-mst stages and even the MST anything can happen. There is nothing that tells us exactly how the games went that knocked best out. His opponent could've luckboxed and came out ahead. | ||
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ahole-surprise
United States813 Posts
That is completely biased. Stork has played amazing, much more amazing than Best in the last month in more meaningful games, but apparently Best being the top protoss player tops this. Edit: Also, don't get so defensive, I made a point about why Best does not deserve to be that high, with what I think is a pretty sound argument. You are kind of nit-picking things about my points and going off on tangents to defend yourself, like the thing about Flash and bandwagoners. | ||
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wswordsmen
United States987 Posts
Note: No I did not see the games but still 0 wins. Best win against FBH is meaningless, Jangbi ya that is something but there are still more deserving players. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On September 15 2008 11:18 ahole-surprise wrote: How can you defend yourself on grounds that "Best is the best protoss player in the world" and separating this concept completely from statistics. That is completely biased. Stork has played amazing, much more amazing than Best in the last month in more meaningful games, but apparently Best being the top protoss player tops this. Edit: Also, don't get so defensive, I made a point about why Best does not deserve to be that high, with what I think is a pretty sound argument. You are kind of nit-picking things about my points and going off on tangents to defend yourself, like the thing about Flash and bandwagoners. Watch Stork play at his absolute best. Watch BeSt play at his absolute best. Come back and tell anyone that Stork is a better player with a straight face. | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
On September 15 2008 12:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Stork is a better player.Watch Stork play at his absolute best. Watch BeSt play at his absolute best. Come back and tell anyone that Stork is a better player with a straight face. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On September 15 2008 09:03 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Stork had an awesome August. He's got his work cut out for him this month, though. He lost to Sea in the all-star game and now faces him in both the MSL and OSL groups! Thanks for taking on the Power Rank while FakeSteve gets things worked out! Stork is like 9999-1 against Sea. Sea won't repeat that win unless he prepares some nice cheese/strategic build. | ||
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