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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
June 21 2011 23:38 GMT
#201
As a Terran player I lost all interest in DreamHack by the time the groups were over. All my favorite players had been defeated by then other then PredY who lost in the first round. Terrans didn't have that good of a showing, and even though that's not the fault of DreamHack at all, Columbus was more entertaining because I was cheering for MMA from the beginning to the end. Both were great tournaments though!
meams
Profile Joined May 2009
United States41 Posts
June 22 2011 00:14 GMT
#202
The advantage MLG holds over Dreamhack is the dual-stream format for the majority of the games. The ability for me to turn of a TvT and instead watch a different matchup is a great benefit. The Red Stream/Blue STream was brilliant, especially since they had all my favorite casters running the various streams.]

Dreamhack should have allowed for the players to engage the crowd directly, as was done in MLG columbus. Watching MC react to all his American Fans was a great treat. Same goes for July and all the other Korean pros that probably didn't realize they had such gigantic followings here in the US. The GOM studio doesn't really have that many people packed in every day -- so seeing these mega-crowds for group stage games is probably pretty chill for them.


I watched both tourneys. I would've watched 'em both regardless of relative quality. But i must say, objectively, that MLG Columbus took the win. Although Dreamhack is a much cooler name and scores bonuspoints fo having Day9 run it and post everything on his stream/site. It was better organized than MLG's Vods and shit like that. Day9's crew FTW.
In a world of perception, reality is irrelevant.
applejuice
Profile Joined October 2010
307 Posts
June 22 2011 00:41 GMT
#203
Only reason MLG is not winning is because MLG is not deemed to be "nerd cool", while Dreamhack is. Way to go, e-sports community.
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
June 22 2011 01:00 GMT
#204
I gotta agree with FlopTurnReaver on the first page, 100%. MLG had a smaller prize pool but double the intensity and entertainment.
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 22 2011 01:13 GMT
#205
Both were good, but Dreamhack's stream quality was amazing
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
AcideL
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1 Post
June 22 2011 01:15 GMT
#206
My girlfriend rolled her eyes at me when I told her to watch the HuK vs. Moon final series with me. She got so hyper when Day[9] got excited in game 5. Even she was screaming, and I don't even think she has any idea what was going on lol
When it Reigns, it scores.
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
June 22 2011 01:55 GMT
#207
MLG was a lot more exciting for me.

Separating the "main stage/tent" from the players made the crowd incomparable to the one at MLG. That energy really comes through in matches and I missed it very much.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
June 22 2011 02:58 GMT
#208
MLG somehow seemed more exciting. Maybe it was because Koreans visiting was a bit more exciting the first time around (I'm aware Koreans had been to previous DH's, but before it was MC alone as far as the "big guns." It could be MC's antics, the opening series being extremely exciting, Tastosis, or nationalist pride. Also, in spite of the very talented player pool at DH, MLG had a much larger one and all of the excitement of the open bracket (for better or worse). Yeah, the state presence and interviews definitely helped make MLG more exciting, as well as the giant complex feeling rather than Bilbo's party tent (j/k, the main venue looked quite appropriate at least).

Things DH had that were better:

5 streams
not total Korean dominance + Show Spoiler +
(thx HuK <3)

MC + TB casting HuK vs Tarson


Oh and MLG seemed to have had more drama.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 04:36:56
June 22 2011 04:35 GMT
#209
Dreamhack was a bit better in that i got to see all the games i wanted to.

Also dreamhack seems like a more badass tounaments name than MLG.
EnWara
Profile Joined May 2011
United States55 Posts
June 22 2011 04:36 GMT
#210
They were both so awesome that I had to choose both. MLG had the excitement of the koreans being at a foreigner LAN event for the first time, and Dreamhack had the excitement of HUK not letting the Koreans just knock everyone else out. Dreamhack had more streams without the commercials all of the time, but MLG had Tastosis.

You can't go wrong with either tournament.
Coffins
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada85 Posts
June 22 2011 05:02 GMT
#211
On June 22 2011 10:55 Bear4188 wrote:
MLG was a lot more exciting for me.

Separating the "main stage/tent" from the players made the crowd incomparable to the one at MLG. That energy really comes through in matches and I missed it very much.


Yeah same here, the crowd gave me more nerdchills than half the games did :x
Satyric
Profile Joined June 2011
68 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 07:04:23
June 22 2011 07:01 GMT
#212
Voted DH because I didn't have problems with the streams and you didn't have to pay for HQ streams, it's all free and it's in my time zone.
Although I'm kind of sad that only the finals were played on stage, this probably wont be an issue at DHW11, seeing as SC2 has the highest community support out of all other games being played (on site, LoL was bigger online).

But yeah, it's difficult to compare seeing as MLG and Dreamhack are very different. DH is so much more than just the tournaments.

Edit: No thunderstorm would ever interfere with the swedish internets :-)
TMmingus
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden13 Posts
June 22 2011 07:05 GMT
#213
Dreamhack summer is nothing compared to dreamhack winter. But I still loved dreamhack summer, coz of day9 and apollo.
En negativ man är ingen man
kovac
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden123 Posts
June 22 2011 07:13 GMT
#214
It will be interesting to hear what the players thought about it. Because they seem rather unhappy about MLG and in the end it actually is a competition. And giving the players a good environment to perform at there max is really important.
NaNiwa>ThorZaIN: WHAT you broke the game again dont you have any shame??
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 07:16:47
June 22 2011 07:14 GMT
#215
I'm sorry, but people are voting because of the foreigner winning in DH. You have to evaluate the Tournament separately from the results. This includes both the production value and the setup of the tournament. I love the Losers bracket play myself, and think it will far more consistently allow the better players to emerge at the top. (Less flukey than single elimination bracket play)

MLG Dallas was much more enjoyable to watch, at least in the down time we could see the crowd. While still insulated, the crowd was much closer and much more apparent in the MLG tournament. You could here them better and saw them much more often. It gave the games more significance.

The production was better, the stage was better, the lighting, I wasn't at either- but from the stream, IMO, it wasn't even a close call.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
gm.tOSS
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany898 Posts
June 22 2011 07:18 GMT
#216
DH only won due to being the most recent event imho.
HuK HuK HuK | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | There is death in the hane.
AfterEleven
Profile Joined May 2011
151 Posts
June 22 2011 07:40 GMT
#217
Don't understand how Dreamhack is beating MLG, but whatever...
Satyric
Profile Joined June 2011
68 Posts
June 22 2011 07:44 GMT
#218
On June 21 2011 16:47 zaii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 16:41 Chenz wrote:
On June 21 2011 15:44 zaii wrote:
On June 21 2011 15:30 starclaws wrote:
According to the vote... everyone is blinded by MLG tour bullshit. Dreamhack is the biggest in the world. MLG is a joke of a tour around the US and they can't figure out small issues like audio and such.


"everyone is blinded by MLG tour bullshit" ? explain.

Dreamhack bigger then MLG is questionable.

Not really, DH is way larger event than MLG. It isn't even close. If you ignore everything but the Starcraft 2 parts of MLG and DH, then yes, MLG isn't that far behind but overall, DH is huge.


How many events does DH host a year compared to MLG? and totaly prize money?

And there's still the fact that MLG is a league and DH is just one or two huge LANS.

See that's why I said questionable.


Don't know if this is responded to already, but DH has 5 SC2 events planned this year with a total of 810k SEK (roughly 127k USD) in prizes. So looking at facts MLG has like ~200k USD in prizes this year, with 6 events.

But then again, over 17000 people attended at last DHW.

Just looking at SC2, MLG is bigger when it comes to prizes and events, but looking at esports, I think they're pretty even.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
June 22 2011 08:03 GMT
#219
Dreamhack no doubt, but sadly a lot of people are voting without actually watching both events.
I'll call Nada.
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
June 22 2011 08:23 GMT
#220
How can Dreamhack beat MLG ;/ ?

MLG = Tastosis, MC and his ceremony, cameras in booths ( not only finals ), more games ( winner / losers brackets ), CROWD, Crowd + players in 1 place, at start we could see interviews with players - JP.

Yeah, maybe Dreamhack had more streams etc, but overall imo MLG >>> Dreamhack
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