As a Terran player I lost all interest in DreamHack by the time the groups were over. All my favorite players had been defeated by then other then PredY who lost in the first round. Terrans didn't have that good of a showing, and even though that's not the fault of DreamHack at all, Columbus was more entertaining because I was cheering for MMA from the beginning to the end. Both were great tournaments though!

meams

United States41 Posts

June 22 2011 00:14 GMT

#202

The advantage MLG holds over Dreamhack is the dual-stream format for the majority of the games. The ability for me to turn of a TvT and instead watch a different matchup is a great benefit. The Red Stream/Blue STream was brilliant, especially since they had all my favorite casters running the various streams.]

Dreamhack should have allowed for the players to engage the crowd directly, as was done in MLG columbus. Watching MC react to all his American Fans was a great treat. Same goes for July and all the other Korean pros that probably didn't realize they had such gigantic followings here in the US. The GOM studio doesn't really have that many people packed in every day -- so seeing these mega-crowds for group stage games is probably pretty chill for them.

I watched both tourneys. I would've watched 'em both regardless of relative quality. But i must say, objectively, that MLG Columbus took the win. Although Dreamhack is a much cooler name and scores bonuspoints fo having Day9 run it and post everything on his stream/site. It was better organized than MLG's Vods and shit like that. Day9's crew FTW.

applejuice

307 Posts

June 22 2011 00:41 GMT

#203

Only reason MLG is not winning is because MLG is not deemed to be "nerd cool", while Dreamhack is. Way to go, e-sports community.

MacroNcheesE

United States508 Posts

June 22 2011 01:00 GMT

#204

I gotta agree with FlopTurnReaver on the first page, 100%. MLG had a smaller prize pool but double the intensity and entertainment.

DrivE

United States2554 Posts

June 22 2011 01:13 GMT

#205

Both were good, but Dreamhack's stream quality was amazing

AcideL

United States1 Post

June 22 2011 01:15 GMT

#206

My girlfriend rolled her eyes at me when I told her to watch the HuK vs. Moon final series with me. She got so hyper when Day[9] got excited in game 5. Even she was screaming, and I don't even think she has any idea what was going on lol

Bear4188

United States1797 Posts

June 22 2011 01:55 GMT

#207

MLG was a lot more exciting for me.

Separating the "main stage/tent" from the players made the crowd incomparable to the one at MLG. That energy really comes through in matches and I missed it very much.

Ansinjunger

United States2451 Posts

June 22 2011 02:58 GMT

#208

MLG somehow seemed more exciting. Maybe it was because Koreans visiting was a bit more exciting the first time around (I'm aware Koreans had been to previous DH's, but before it was MC alone as far as the "big guns." It could be MC's antics, the opening series being extremely exciting, Tastosis, or nationalist pride. Also, in spite of the very talented player pool at DH, MLG had a much larger one and all of the excitement of the open bracket (for better or worse). Yeah, the state presence and interviews definitely helped make MLG more exciting, as well as the giant complex feeling rather than Bilbo's party tent (j/k, the main venue looked quite appropriate at least).

Things DH had that were better:

5 streams
not total Korean dominance + Show Spoiler +

(thx HuK <3)

MC + TB casting HuK vs Tarson

Oh and MLG seemed to have had more drama.

godemperor

Belgium2043 Posts

June 22 2011 04:35 GMT

#209

Dreamhack was a bit better in that i got to see all the games i wanted to.

Also dreamhack seems like a more badass tounaments name than MLG.

EnWara

United States55 Posts

June 22 2011 04:36 GMT

#210

They were both so awesome that I had to choose both. MLG had the excitement of the koreans being at a foreigner LAN event for the first time, and Dreamhack had the excitement of HUK not letting the Koreans just knock everyone else out. Dreamhack had more streams without the commercials all of the time, but MLG had Tastosis.

You can't go wrong with either tournament.

Coffins

Canada85 Posts

June 22 2011 05:02 GMT

#211

On June 22 2011 10:55 Bear4188 wrote:
MLG was a lot more exciting for me.

Separating the "main stage/tent" from the players made the crowd incomparable to the one at MLG. That energy really comes through in matches and I missed it very much.

Yeah same here, the crowd gave me more nerdchills than half the games did :x

Satyric

68 Posts

June 22 2011 07:01 GMT

#212

Voted DH because I didn't have problems with the streams and you didn't have to pay for HQ streams, it's all free and it's in my time zone.
Although I'm kind of sad that only the finals were played on stage, this probably wont be an issue at DHW11, seeing as SC2 has the highest community support out of all other games being played (on site, LoL was bigger online).

But yeah, it's difficult to compare seeing as MLG and Dreamhack are very different. DH is so much more than just the tournaments.

Edit: No thunderstorm would ever interfere with the swedish internets :-)

TMmingus

Sweden13 Posts

June 22 2011 07:05 GMT

#213

Dreamhack summer is nothing compared to dreamhack winter. But I still loved dreamhack summer, coz of day9 and apollo.

kovac

Sweden123 Posts

June 22 2011 07:13 GMT

#214

It will be interesting to hear what the players thought about it. Because they seem rather unhappy about MLG and in the end it actually is a competition. And giving the players a good environment to perform at there max is really important.

CursOr

United States6335 Posts

June 22 2011 07:14 GMT

#215

I'm sorry, but people are voting because of the foreigner winning in DH. You have to evaluate the Tournament separately from the results. This includes both the production value and the setup of the tournament. I love the Losers bracket play myself, and think it will far more consistently allow the better players to emerge at the top. (Less flukey than single elimination bracket play)

MLG Dallas was much more enjoyable to watch, at least in the down time we could see the crowd. While still insulated, the crowd was much closer and much more apparent in the MLG tournament. You could here them better and saw them much more often. It gave the games more significance.

The production was better, the stage was better, the lighting, I wasn't at either- but from the stream, IMO, it wasn't even a close call.

gm.tOSS

Germany898 Posts

June 22 2011 07:18 GMT

#216

DH only won due to being the most recent event imho.

AfterEleven

151 Posts

June 22 2011 07:40 GMT

#217

Don't understand how Dreamhack is beating MLG, but whatever...

Satyric

68 Posts

June 22 2011 07:44 GMT

#218

On June 21 2011 16:47 zaii wrote:

Show nested quote +

How many events does DH host a year compared to MLG? and totaly prize money?

And there's still the fact that MLG is a league and DH is just one or two huge LANS.

See that's why I said questionable.

Don't know if this is responded to already, but DH has 5 SC2 events planned this year with a total of 810k SEK (roughly 127k USD) in prizes. So looking at facts MLG has like ~200k USD in prizes this year, with 6 events.

But then again, over 17000 people attended at last DHW.

Just looking at SC2, MLG is bigger when it comes to prizes and events, but looking at esports, I think they're pretty even.

lololol

5198 Posts

June 22 2011 08:03 GMT

#219

Dreamhack no doubt, but sadly a lot of people are voting without actually watching both events.

zYwi3c

Poland1811 Posts

June 22 2011 08:23 GMT

#220

How can Dreamhack beat MLG ;/ ?

MLG = Tastosis, MC and his ceremony, cameras in booths ( not only finals ), more games ( winner / losers brackets ), CROWD, Crowd + players in 1 place, at start we could see interviews with players - JP.

Yeah, maybe Dreamhack had more streams etc, but overall imo MLG >>> Dreamhack