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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On May 01 2011 01:11 FakePlasticLove wrote: Fantasy is 2-3 this month with wins aginst Much and Roro and losses against SK (2x) and Action. He doesn't deserve #5 or even a spot on the rankings Win percentage only tells so much, especially when it's only 5 games played. And Soulkey was absolutely amazing in their matches. | ||
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
JD for #1! | ||
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United States10328 Posts
On May 01 2011 01:13 lyAsakura wrote: Baby should definitely keep his spot around 5-7th place. Maybe drop to 8 or 9 at the most, but I don't see why he would get entirely kicked out of PR. bleargh I love baby, but he's not in the MSL and hasn't been great in PL... what's saving him? T.T | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 30 2011 15:02 Holgerius wrote: Totally. I'd probably still favour Flash in a Bo5, but I haven't feared anyone (from a Flash-fan perspective) like I fear the Dong right now for a really long time. I feel so happy that JD is back at the top. He's the type of person who feeds on winning, and during the last year Flash basically made him his Yellow. It must've been quite depressing for him. Then he had a pretty rough winter and I was on the verge of thinking his era was kinda coming to an end. Fail by me.  He's so much stronger than that. Can't wait for the incoming Flash vs JD final.  JD hwaiting! I was thinking so too. I mean most progamers don't stay at their dominate form for very long and jaedong's been dominant for 3 years I think? (I don't know for sure so don't crucify me). After his 2010 he just wasn't looking as strong, and I was pretty sure he was going to keep falling. Boy do I feel dumb doubting him ^_^. Don't know how he does it, but he somehow always comes back stronger then ever :D | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On May 01 2011 06:30 blade55555 wrote: I mean most progamers don't stay at their dominate form for very long Sorry for going off-topic, but I see this far too often on TL and it's getting on my nerves: "dominate" is a verb. "Dominant" is an adjective. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
Maybe that's just Bisu's fault though. His new build wasn't around when JD was dominating. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
On May 01 2011 09:13 Mortality wrote: Well, really what has changed for JD is his ZvT. His ZvZ is basically the same as always and his ZvP hasn't shown up enough to really see if he's stepped it up from earlier this year (in his past 20 games he's only faced P 3 times, and 2 of those games boiled down to timing attacks). I don't doubt his (projected) #1 position is looking well earned right now, but I don't really think we should say that he's looking "stronger than ever." Compared to late 09/early 10 when his ZvP was looking basically unbeatable... at the very least let's see him sustain this forum for a couple months before we say "stronger than ever." JD at the moment is having the strongest ZvT of any player any time in the history of the game. He has now reached a location where no zerg has gone before, pushed the boundaries of what was thought as possible. | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
crazy game usually u expect jaedong to present some skill in any game but his last zvt's are more and more if not even surpassed his glory days of 2008 and back than he was relying on muta micro, now its just late game tech with crazy macro and micro . 200th win in proleague while beating 5/5 terrans this month: fantasy, sea, flash, reality and baby breaking his elo record. morality is right by saying he isnt in his best shape but in zvt i got all the confimation i needed jaedong number 1 !!!!! | ||
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kamizushi
Canada52 Posts
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Mumei
United States257 Posts
On May 01 2011 21:38 pvzvt wrote:usually u expect jaedong to present some skill in any game but his last zvt's are more and more if not even surpassed his glory days of 2008 and back than he was relying on muta micro, now its just late game tech with crazy macro and micro . He's been doing spectacularly against T for awhile now - since last September he's won 73.91% of the 23 vT games he's played (better than the 63% of 22 vP games, or 71.88% of the 33 vZ games). And since 2011 started, he's won 83% of his vT games with a 15 - 3 record. I remember someone mentioning once how Jaedong occasionally seems to figure out a match-up for awhile (e.g. in 2010 when he won 78% of his vP games, with losses only to Kal (1), Stork (4), and Bisu (1)); perhaps something has clicked for him vT. Here's hoping he can break 2300 vT ELO. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On May 01 2011 20:57 xarthaz wrote: JD at the moment is having the strongest ZvT of any player any time in the history of the game. He has now reached a location where no zerg has gone before, pushed the boundaries of what was thought as possible. No. You must be new to watching progaming if you really think that. | ||
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Mumei
United States257 Posts
On May 02 2011 00:31 Mortality wrote:No. You must be new to watching progaming if you really think that. Do you mean relative to their time, or are you thinking of a Zerg player who you would pick over Jaedong in a match against a Terran player, if both players were at their peak? | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
More interesting is who has or had the strongest PvT and PvP. You'd think it ought to be Stork, and right now, but you never quite know where you have the guy. | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
PvP Horang2 :D 4 more people Bisu lost to in the last 10 games, have comparable PvP strength Stats free Stork Kal | ||
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pvzvt
Israel2097 Posts
pvp horang 2for sure | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
On May 02 2011 02:07 pvzvt wrote: pvt best tough consistency is with stork or at least was consistent in that department pvp horang 2for sure Bisu's pvp used to be out of this world during his dominant period. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On May 02 2011 00:49 Mumei wrote: Do you mean relative to their time, or are you thinking of a Zerg player who you would pick over Jaedong in a match against a Terran player, if both players were at their peak? Relative to their time of course. Obviously a Zerg player at his peak back in 2006 or 2001 isn't as strong in absolute terms as any A-team progamer today. However, Jaedong has not even yet proved that his current ZvT is at its peak (relative to the competition) right now, let alone better than the past ZvT giants. Yes he's boasting high win percentages lately and his skill set is more well-rounded than ever, hence his consistency when facing strong but not superstar TvZers. But when you get down to it, he's been getting slapped silly by Flash and Light in his most recent battles against them. Group D was the first time he managed to overcome that in a long time now, but no matter how outstandingly awesome JD played, it was just one game. I'd really like to see a series before I jump to any such conclusions. | ||
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p14c
Vatican City State431 Posts
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