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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 25 2011 12:03 GMT
#341
In before people start bringing up Flash-BeSt in the Flash-Bisu argument.

Also, I kind of have finals next week. I might delay Power Rank until the 7th of May, when I'm free of purgatory.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
topherthetoad
Profile Joined September 2008
China130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 13:11:21
April 25 2011 13:11 GMT
#342
Well, whether its pertinent to the discussion or not, it was a sound crushing. Me likes.
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
April 25 2011 13:15 GMT
#343
Hm....there's a fair number of SPL matches, and some of the MSL Ro16 matches during that period, so the rankings may change depending on what happens.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 14:40:44
April 25 2011 14:40 GMT
#344
Strange list without hydra or kal making top 10. Really confused how horang 2 made it in the top 10? He's like top 30 maybe if you're lucky.
There's no S in KT. :P
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
April 25 2011 15:00 GMT
#345
On April 25 2011 21:03 flamewheel wrote:
In before people start bringing up Flash-BeSt in the Flash-Bisu argument.

Also, I kind of have finals next week. I might delay Power Rank until the 7th of May, when I'm free of purgatory.

was there actually a Flash-bisu argument? I thought it was just SKT fanboys whining...
Writer
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
April 25 2011 15:09 GMT
#346
Well, I haven't seen the games from last night, but I think there is one now.

However, if we're waiting until May 7, then the jury is out completely given that we will see 4+ games from Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu in that time so a lot can change...

Actually, I think it may be for the better to wait since most of this month was off season. If rankings went up on May 1, there would be some players worth mentioning on PR/CBNC with only 2-3 games under the belt.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
April 25 2011 23:02 GMT
#347
I'm confused by the lack of hydra on here. He had a bad month, but Horang2 over him?
Evs
Profile Joined December 2008
Philippines330 Posts
April 25 2011 23:18 GMT
#348
hehe, even the coverage month is being changed just so Flash can get a better argument now? Such is how PRs are made.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
April 26 2011 00:27 GMT
#349
On April 26 2011 08:18 Evs wrote:
hehe, even the coverage month is being changed just so Flash can get a better argument now? Such is how PRs are made.


Well, if Bisu is really better then more time will only help his case to be ranked over Flash.

Anyway it's far from the first time the PR isn't released on time, don't be stupid.
Evs
Profile Joined December 2008
Philippines330 Posts
April 26 2011 00:37 GMT
#350
@Cpadolf: What's so stupid about my remark anyway? All I did was call out on the PR being made to cover more than a month. Do read before you comment.

And yes. previous PR rankings can definitely change if you add the 1st week of the following month. With changes not favorable for those on top some of the time.
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
April 26 2011 01:22 GMT
#351
You can't blame flamewheel for postponing it when he has finals during the first week of May
Jaedong and Baby
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
April 26 2011 02:06 GMT
#352
On April 25 2011 21:03 flamewheel wrote:
In before people start bringing up Flash-BeSt in the Flash-Bisu argument.

Also, I kind of have finals next week. I might delay Power Rank until the 7th of May, when I'm free of purgatory.


I don't see how it's irrelevant. If Flash loses to BeSt (who has awesome PvT in principle but has been slumping hard) but Bisu beats, say, Sea or Stork or something, doesn't that say something about where they are relatively?
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
April 26 2011 02:14 GMT
#353
On April 26 2011 09:37 Evs wrote:
@Cpadolf: What's so stupid about my remark anyway? All I did was call out on the PR being made to cover more than a month. Do read before you comment.

And yes. previous PR rankings can definitely change if you add the 1st week of the following month. With changes not favorable for those on top some of the time.


Would you stop acting like a jerk to forum veterans? Flamewheel has been doing an excellent job and wants to postpone a week so he can take final exams. Don't be so arrogant as to think that your own forum ego is worth more than his real life commitments. Least of all when you only have 150 posts under your belt and CLEARLY have not been reading these threads for very long given the nature of some of your comments. Just so you know, I reported you for violating TL commandment #6. I think you've been pushing the line throughout this thread, but this last post takes the cake.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
April 26 2011 02:22 GMT
#354
On April 26 2011 08:18 Evs wrote:
hehe, even the coverage month is being changed just so Flash can get a better argument now? Such is how PRs are made.


Seriously please read all of the posts. the person writing this is delaying it because he has more important things to do (school)

his world doesn't revolve around OMG THE PR
CJ Entusman #58 | Gogogo Stats
Evs
Profile Joined December 2008
Philippines330 Posts
April 26 2011 03:06 GMT
#355
On April 26 2011 11:14 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 09:37 Evs wrote:
@Cpadolf: What's so stupid about my remark anyway? All I did was call out on the PR being made to cover more than a month. Do read before you comment.

And yes. previous PR rankings can definitely change if you add the 1st week of the following month. With changes not favorable for those on top some of the time.


Would you stop acting like a jerk to forum veterans? Flamewheel has been doing an excellent job and wants to postpone a week so he can take final exams. Don't be so arrogant as to think that your own forum ego is worth more than his real life commitments. Least of all when you only have 150 posts under your belt and CLEARLY have not been reading these threads for very long given the nature of some of your comments. Just so you know, I reported you for violating TL commandment #6. I think you've been pushing the line throughout this thread, but this last post takes the cake.



Sigh. A jerk huh? All I did was voice my opinion that I don't like how a PR might be moved to cover more than one month. I never said he should forsake his real life commitments to give it out on the 1st of next month.

I understand how you value post counts to reflect authority here but trying to negate my arguments by calling me names instead of refuting me on my claims is imo a worse post than you accuse me of
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 03:15:01
April 26 2011 03:13 GMT
#356
I'm pretty sure they mean this:

On April 26 2011 08:18 Evs wrote:
hehe, even the coverage month is being changed just so Flash can get a better argument now? Such is how PRs are made.


In which you showed contempt for the writer and PR, though I took it as a sarcastic statement and had a little laugh out of it.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
April 26 2011 04:24 GMT
#357
Gonna be another tough 1-3. Hopefully someone sets himself apart this week.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 05:08:41
April 26 2011 04:52 GMT
#358
I'm not even going to talk or argue about the next month's top 3 ranks since it's utterly pointless and the writer is the one who makes the ultimate decision anyway. But I wanna make a possible mention of the lesser known players for next month.

The first player it comes to my mind is s2 from SKT. Seeing his performance in WL finals (3 kills, from KT nonetheless), showing a somewhat good attempt performance against Flash and even before that such as sniping Jaedong, and other zerg players relatively with ease. As well as his even more recent performances of taking down players. I'm not saying he should be suitable in the top 10 but an honorable mention I think is good, maybe even rank 9 or 10. Afterall, he was crowned MVP for WL, his first real award. I'm surprised no one mentioned him with everyone taking mostly about the top 3.

Secondly, I have to say Hyuk. Not for his performances in the games itself but the "behind-the-scenes" situations of powering various players in SKT, including the aces like Bisu. Even on recent interviews, you hear often SKT players mentioning how they couldn't do this or that if it wasn't for Hyuk. Seriously, how often don't you hear that nowadays? You gotta wonder what he really does to make the players mention him every single freaking time but nonetheless, it seems kinda like he's the second Oov or the zerg version of it. Plus he's in MSL ro16, beating Great in a very convincing fashion. He seems to do well always on individual leagues and this time, he has proven him surviving a group what little people thought Hyuk advancing. He pulled a good fight with Leta, made a convincing victory against a terran in loser's match and then outright took out Great. We have to wait and see how he fare against Calm, but if he does happen to beat Calm and move onto Ro8, I think that deserves a spot in the lower tier of PR, like rank 7-10. Or at least honorable mentions.

Not being bias or showing my fanboyism here for SKT players but you gotta consider the facts I displayed and see if you agree with me with these two players. If you know the ace match is s2 vs JD, would you 100%, vote for JD? 50%? Hell, I wouldn't be surprised some people putting down s2 after his micro display in games. And if you know Hyuk is behind that player back, will you not think there's going to be some sort of special build or upgrade or increase of skill of the player?

Just my 2 cents.
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
April 26 2011 04:57 GMT
#359
s2 should get like 8th place, he really did a lot this month.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 05:35:34
April 26 2011 05:25 GMT
#360
s2 maybe, hyuk... just no. especially when soulkey, hydra, movie, baby, stork, mind, calm, zero, leta, sea, fantasy, and even grape, ggaemo, and fbh are in contention (or questionably so, but they're closer than hyuk is!) hyuk might be a pr contender if by some miracle he makes semis, but even if he beats calm, ... no.

as for lower ranks: everyone's seen soulkey's ridiculous queen builds, and should definitely get a mid or low spot depending on the rest of the month. leta and fantasy are scary but lose a bit too much. mind is perhaps returning to form. stork is just lolling around. sea is solid but was owned in group D as expected. calm continues to fly under the radar and make his like 5th consecutive MSL ro16 (probably wrong about this but w/e.) zero can beat anyone and lose to anyone. grape and is cool but untested. ggaemo and fbh are legitimate threats on ACE.

movie, s2, and baby have been hot in PL but out of MSL.

I guess we should just wait for the games!
Writer
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