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jgju
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States454 Posts
June 01 2010 06:41 GMT
#81
(P)YoonJoong!

Also, I fully expect (P)Stats to be on the list next round
"For you biting zealots, here's a quote" - Lauryn Hill
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 07:38:23
June 01 2010 07:35 GMT
#82
Anyone calling the Bonjwa debate over at this point is sorely mistaken. It is still too early to tell whether Flash will exert completely and utter dominance like Oov, Nada and Boxer did - but I will say we're getting close. This upcoming season will be the one where the debate is settled once and for all. Oh and Effort beating Flash doesn't disprove the Bonjwa theory one bit - iloveoov lost to July twice, both in the Gillette semis and the iTv Final - and he's still remembered as a bonjwa.

Yeah seriously this is getting silly.
Some people are so focused on not giving him that name that any loss will do. One loss and you're out.
I bet they weren't even there to witness players like savior and iloveoov but rather just heard stories about them.

Bonjwa talk being over is bullshit. He's in the middle of his time where he might be crowned right now.
4 finals in a row, 4000+ kespa, floating on 2400 ELO, defeated his greatest rival 3-0 in the finals, 70% all matchups and roughly 80% all matchups since his domination started a year ago - And now some say his bonjwa run is over? After this, seriously?

I'm not saying he is Bonjwa, I don't know how you define it anymore since he's not named. However if you're going to give one justified reason as to why he shouldn't be Bonjwa it should be that his time of domination has only been a year.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
June 01 2010 07:58 GMT
#83
Flash at the top was expected. Effort over Jaedong I can understand, hell I kind of expected it. Snow and fantasy I think are a bit too high, but then again I can't really think of anyone that deserves to take their spots so I guess it's okay there. I feel like Midas is on his last leg here, which makes me sad because it was so nice to see an old school player faring so well. Shine at 10th is weird. I actually expected free (or even Classic), but that's my inner fanyboyism talking.

For the most part there was nothing surprising this month so...good power rank~
this is my quote.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
June 01 2010 08:01 GMT
#84
On May 31 2010 23:10 SubtleArt wrote:
Snow is way way way way way way way way to high. Theres just something about a Protoss who can only (ONLY) PvT and nothing else that annoys me. Kinda like watching a TvZ only Terran (COUGH RUBY MASSIVE BELOW 30% TVP COUGH). If you watch Snow's games against zerg, their horrible. Look at the list of shitty zergs hes lost to. Of course its too late to determine if hes going to end up being a 1 matchup player but right now it sure as hell looks like it and until he doesn't suck massively vs zerg I don't think he deserves to be that high. Losing games to Hyuk (twice) and Roro but beating players like Really and Flash convincingly indicates a massive skill difference between PvZ and PvT

Also, I'd still put Jaedong in front of effort simply cause Jaedong has been on fire this month and Effort really hasn't beaten great people (other than flash but I refuse to count a failed BBS and a failed 14CC as wins displaying skill).


Effort went 9-2 or 81.8% in May.
JD went 13-4 or 76.5% in May.
Pretty close, however:

Effort came back from being down 0-2 in a bo5 to the number 1 terran in the world. Remember anyone else in recent years who did this? Oh right, Jaedong to Fantasy.

JD got crushed 3-0. It wasn't even close. And alot of people (except some flash fans) were disappointed with the finals.

Also you suggest Effort has beaten no one good? He beat
(P)Kal,
(T)fantasy,
(Z)great.
Go back just one more week to april and he beat:
(Z)ZerO,
(Z)Kwanro,
(Z)Action,
#1 Great fan ~ // Khan // FlaSh // JangBi // EffOrt //
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
June 01 2010 08:12 GMT
#85
On June 01 2010 07:55 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 05:22 raga4ka wrote:
To be honest i'm disappointed with Jaedong . Flash nowadays either cheeses does some wierd mech build with ultra fast CC or 14 CC in TvZ . I think zergs should abuse either 2 hat mutas / lurkers or some pool first opening and be more aggresive . His hidra bust was a good try , but he over comited and from the looks of it either didn't practise a follow-up and just all -in or was frustrated because he was down 0 - 2 and all -ined. I don't mind him being as greedy as Flash at least 1 game .

Effort's preparation impressed me much more . He would have won the first game if they didn't replay it regardless of the valkyrie's death . Because Effort was going for a 4 hatch hidra break after he build 5 mutas and 2- 4 scourge . Flash invested alot of gas in to valkery and goliaths , and probably wouldn't have enough for tanks in time to stop the hidra bust . His greedy build to match Flash on Odd-eye was good . He took the high ground expansion at 9 o'clock first meaning that if Flash scouted his natural and saw no hatchery he could potentially not scout Effort because odd-eye is a fairly big map and 12 hat at natural is more likely and pros normally move their SCV to the next spot after scouting the nat . And he played brilliantly in his other games punishing Flash for every little mistake he made .

I'm pretty sure Jaedong had the hydra break easily, but he focused the bunker instead of the wall. He didn't have to stand in range of the bunker at all...


You are right , he should have focused the wall and he would have killed both the depots and barracks quickly while massing up a lot more hidras . Flash would have been supply blocked and probably would have lost the game . He wasted a lot of time and hidras on that bunker while Flash was repairing . Still he shouldn't have over commited especially after Flash had 3 siege tanks already placed and JD hadn't even expanded yet .
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
June 01 2010 08:47 GMT
#86
For those of you TLPDing snow, try This
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
June 01 2010 08:55 GMT
#87
On June 01 2010 16:35 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
Anyone calling the Bonjwa debate over at this point is sorely mistaken. It is still too early to tell whether Flash will exert completely and utter dominance like Oov, Nada and Boxer did - but I will say we're getting close. This upcoming season will be the one where the debate is settled once and for all. Oh and Effort beating Flash doesn't disprove the Bonjwa theory one bit - iloveoov lost to July twice, both in the Gillette semis and the iTv Final - and he's still remembered as a bonjwa.

Yeah seriously this is getting silly.
Some people are so focused on not giving him that name that any loss will do. One loss and you're out.
I bet they weren't even there to witness players like savior and iloveoov but rather just heard stories about them.

Bonjwa talk being over is bullshit. He's in the middle of his time where he might be crowned right now.
4 finals in a row, 4000+ kespa, floating on 2400 ELO, defeated his greatest rival 3-0 in the finals, 70% all matchups and roughly 80% all matchups since his domination started a year ago - And now some say his bonjwa run is over? After this, seriously?

I'm not saying he is Bonjwa, I don't know how you define it anymore since he's not named. However if you're going to give one justified reason as to why he shouldn't be Bonjwa it should be that his time of domination has only been a year.


I think because JD didn't get the title it is now super hard to get it. Anyway it's not up to us to decide, it's the Korean fans.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 01 2010 09:03 GMT
#88
Damn, I'm really liking Plexa's super on-time power rank :D
GANDHISAUCE
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 01 2010 09:40 GMT
#89
obvious top3 imo
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 10:05:01
June 01 2010 10:04 GMT
#90
On June 01 2010 17:55 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 16:35 StylishVODs wrote:
Anyone calling the Bonjwa debate over at this point is sorely mistaken. It is still too early to tell whether Flash will exert completely and utter dominance like Oov, Nada and Boxer did - but I will say we're getting close. This upcoming season will be the one where the debate is settled once and for all. Oh and Effort beating Flash doesn't disprove the Bonjwa theory one bit - iloveoov lost to July twice, both in the Gillette semis and the iTv Final - and he's still remembered as a bonjwa.

Yeah seriously this is getting silly.
Some people are so focused on not giving him that name that any loss will do. One loss and you're out.
I bet they weren't even there to witness players like savior and iloveoov but rather just heard stories about them.

Bonjwa talk being over is bullshit. He's in the middle of his time where he might be crowned right now.
4 finals in a row, 4000+ kespa, floating on 2400 ELO, defeated his greatest rival 3-0 in the finals, 70% all matchups and roughly 80% all matchups since his domination started a year ago - And now some say his bonjwa run is over? After this, seriously?

I'm not saying he is Bonjwa, I don't know how you define it anymore since he's not named. However if you're going to give one justified reason as to why he shouldn't be Bonjwa it should be that his time of domination has only been a year.


I think because JD didn't get the title it is now super hard to get it. Anyway it's not up to us to decide, it's the Korean fans.

Yeah. The whole discussion is out of control because there are apparently no rules for the matter.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 01 2010 11:51 GMT
#91
It looks like Hiya wants to get back into the PR.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
June 01 2010 11:51 GMT
#92
No room for Hyuk or any SKT Zergs?? QQ
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Lightningbullet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States507 Posts
June 01 2010 11:53 GMT
#93
(T)Flash Just lost to (T)HiyA. That can't be good.
BoxeR is AWESOME!!!!//Proud 2nd Member of the BW>SC2 club.
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
June 01 2010 12:00 GMT
#94
Great PR this month.though i'm sad that (Z)Hyuk didn't get to be in it.he's been awesome lately.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
June 01 2010 12:21 GMT
#95
On June 01 2010 20:53 Lightningbullet wrote:
(T)Flash Just lost to (T)HiyA. That can't be good.


It's never good to see Flash lose, but it happens.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 01 2010 12:25 GMT
#96
On June 01 2010 21:21 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 20:53 Lightningbullet wrote:
(T)Flash Just lost to (T)HiyA. That can't be good.


It's never good to see Flash lose, but it happens.


yeah, even Flash has to show signs of burnout, I think he is going through the same way Jaedong did last summer. Jaedong looked like a zombie back then.

Dual finals back to back and carrying your team to the playoffs. Poor Flash.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 12:39:14
June 01 2010 12:36 GMT
#97
On June 01 2010 21:25 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 21:21 Mooncat wrote:
On June 01 2010 20:53 Lightningbullet wrote:
(T)Flash Just lost to (T)HiyA. That can't be good.


It's never good to see Flash lose, but it happens.


yeah, even Flash has to show signs of burnout, I think he is going through the same way Jaedong did last summer. Jaedong looked like a zombie back then.

Dual finals back to back and carrying your team to the playoffs. Poor Flash.

I doubt it.

If Flash was ever going to slump again it would've been after the OSL finals. Instead he just shrugs it off and comes back as an even stronger player.

His loss to HiYa will only result in him practising more TvT.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 01 2010 12:41 GMT
#98
On June 01 2010 21:36 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 21:25 SuperArc wrote:
On June 01 2010 21:21 Mooncat wrote:
On June 01 2010 20:53 Lightningbullet wrote:
(T)Flash Just lost to (T)HiyA. That can't be good.


It's never good to see Flash lose, but it happens.


yeah, even Flash has to show signs of burnout, I think he is going through the same way Jaedong did last summer. Jaedong looked like a zombie back then.

Dual finals back to back and carrying your team to the playoffs. Poor Flash.

I doubt it.

If Flash was ever going to slump again it would've been after the OSL finals. Instead he just shrugs it off and comes back as an even stronger player.

His loss to HiYa will only result in him practising more TvT.


You must be a bandwagon Flash fan since you dont remember last year. Flash doesnt have unlimited stamina. And I assure you Flash has been practicing enough TvT.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
June 01 2010 12:45 GMT
#99
On June 01 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 21:36 J1.au wrote:
On June 01 2010 21:25 SuperArc wrote:
On June 01 2010 21:21 Mooncat wrote:
On June 01 2010 20:53 Lightningbullet wrote:
(T)Flash Just lost to (T)HiyA. That can't be good.


It's never good to see Flash lose, but it happens.


yeah, even Flash has to show signs of burnout, I think he is going through the same way Jaedong did last summer. Jaedong looked like a zombie back then.

Dual finals back to back and carrying your team to the playoffs. Poor Flash.

I doubt it.

If Flash was ever going to slump again it would've been after the OSL finals. Instead he just shrugs it off and comes back as an even stronger player.

His loss to HiYa will only result in him practising more TvT.


You must be a bandwagon Flash fan since you dont remember last year. Flash doesnt have unlimited stamina. And I assure you Flash has been practicing enough TvT.


I assure you he hasn't.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
June 01 2010 12:52 GMT
#100
On June 01 2010 21:41 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 21:36 J1.au wrote:
On June 01 2010 21:25 SuperArc wrote:
On June 01 2010 21:21 Mooncat wrote:
On June 01 2010 20:53 Lightningbullet wrote:
(T)Flash Just lost to (T)HiyA. That can't be good.


It's never good to see Flash lose, but it happens.


yeah, even Flash has to show signs of burnout, I think he is going through the same way Jaedong did last summer. Jaedong looked like a zombie back then.

Dual finals back to back and carrying your team to the playoffs. Poor Flash.

I doubt it.

If Flash was ever going to slump again it would've been after the OSL finals. Instead he just shrugs it off and comes back as an even stronger player.

His loss to HiYa will only result in him practising more TvT.


You must be a bandwagon Flash fan since you dont remember last year. Flash doesnt have unlimited stamina. And I assure you Flash has been practicing enough TvT.

Actually I've been following Flash since 2008.

I don't think Flash "unlimited stamina". However he does have above-average stamina, and he manages his condition well. Flash wouldn't be where he is today if he couldn't.

Flash has just come out of dual finals versus Zerg players. I doubt he has been playing his usual amount of TvT practise lately.
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