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On June 02 2010 04:49 Prototype wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 06:46 Holgerius wrote:On June 01 2010 05:57 tree.hugger wrote:On June 01 2010 02:19 Mykill wrote:Calm ahead of Shine imo Effort ftw   Calm had a losing record this month, with wins against great, Crazy-Hydra, Peace, and one lone win against Jaedong in a series in which he was impressive, but ultimately totally outclassed. Not PR-worthy at all. On June 01 2010 05:26 Holgerius wrote:On June 01 2010 05:02 ]343[ wrote:
oh the other thing: why is fantasy on the rank at all? was he really that impressive?... Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't understand this.  fantasy played an excellent game against Flash that he barely lost, then made him look stupid with good scouting, and an inventive cheese on his part. He lost to Jaedong because JD responded perfectly to a really neat build. He lost to EffOrt in another excellent and close game. And the rest of the month he rolled. So basically, close losses, and strong performances across the board. ''The rest of the month'' doesn't include anything awesome at all. Seriously, the guy went 4-3 last month (and he's been around roughly 50% since a couple of months back) and did literally nothing impressive at all. The win vs Hiya was the only positive thing I can remember. The first game vs Flash wasn't even remotely close, Flash won that game more than 10 minutes before Fantasy gg'd. It was a rape. The second game was an extremely lucky win. The loss vs JD wasn't due to JD playing good, it was because Fantasy played like a complete fucking retard. The loss vs Effort showed that he's incapable of playing proper modern late game TvZ. The game vs Action was Fantasy winning the game with his BO (stopped the 4-pool (or was it 5-pool?) completely) and still almost died due to more retardation. His win vs Clam was a typical Fantasy vs Clam game, i.e one of them failed harder than the other. We can't give everyone who gets lucky vs Flash a spot on the PR just because of that. There are plenty of players who had a better (or at least just as good) month as Fantasy had. + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler + It's nice to see that you can't produce an argument that doesn't constitute an ad hominem or baseless blanket statement, Mr. Holgersson. Says more about you than Fantasy, admitedly, but I'm still going to take that as a pluss.
Do you know what "ad hominem" means?
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hmmm. Snow too high for me imo
but a good power rank
no one but the top 3 matter anyways imo
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yay
finally some love for CJ after none of their players even got into CNBC for a while
I would prolly still put JD on #2 but oh well, effort's awesome
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On June 02 2010 06:15 Djabanete wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2010 04:49 Prototype wrote:On June 01 2010 06:46 Holgerius wrote:On June 01 2010 05:57 tree.hugger wrote:On June 01 2010 02:19 Mykill wrote:Calm ahead of Shine imo Effort ftw Calm had a losing record this month, with wins against great, Crazy-Hydra, Peace, and one lone win against Jaedong in a series in which he was impressive, but ultimately totally outclassed. Not PR-worthy at all. On June 01 2010 05:26 Holgerius wrote:On June 01 2010 05:02 ]343[ wrote:
oh the other thing: why is fantasy on the rank at all? was he really that impressive?... Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't understand this. fantasy played an excellent game against Flash that he barely lost, then made him look stupid with good scouting, and an inventive cheese on his part. He lost to Jaedong because JD responded perfectly to a really neat build. He lost to EffOrt in another excellent and close game. And the rest of the month he rolled. So basically, close losses, and strong performances across the board. ''The rest of the month'' doesn't include anything awesome at all. Seriously, the guy went 4-3 last month (and he's been around roughly 50% since a couple of months back) and did literally nothing impressive at all. The win vs Hiya was the only positive thing I can remember. The first game vs Flash wasn't even remotely close, Flash won that game more than 10 minutes before Fantasy gg'd. It was a rape. The second game was an extremely lucky win. The loss vs JD wasn't due to JD playing good, it was because Fantasy played like a complete fucking retard. The loss vs Effort showed that he's incapable of playing proper modern late game TvZ. The game vs Action was Fantasy winning the game with his BO (stopped the 4-pool (or was it 5-pool?) completely) and still almost died due to more retardation. His win vs Clam was a typical Fantasy vs Clam game, i.e one of them failed harder than the other. We can't give everyone who gets lucky vs Flash a spot on the PR just because of that. There are plenty of players who had a better (or at least just as good) month as Fantasy had. + Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler + It's nice to see that you can't produce an argument that doesn't constitute an ad hominem or baseless blanket statement, Mr. Holgersson. Says more about you than Fantasy, admitedly, but I'm still going to take that as a pluss. Do you know what "ad hominem" means?
lol this is amusing. he calls a post referencing only the progamers in question "ad hominem" @_@
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I dont know, beating Kwanro on Match Point kinda means you can PvZ or not? 
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On June 02 2010 13:21 SuperArc wrote:I dont know, beating Kwanro on Match Point kinda means you can PvZ or not?
It means you've mastered the long lost protoss art of building a reaver and chilling in your base while the Kwanro/Shine mode of player funnels its hydralisks at it
Seriously though, GG. Snow (or Stats) better be the neo-Bisu so this depressing protoss fail era can come to an end.
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On June 02 2010 14:02 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2010 13:21 SuperArc wrote:I dont know, beating Kwanro on Match Point kinda means you can PvZ or not? It means you've mastered the long lost protoss art of building a reaver and chilling in your base while the Kwanro/Shine mode of player funnels its hydralisks at it Seriously though, GG. Snow (or Stats) better be the neo-Bisu so this depressing protoss fail era can come to an end.
XD
Snow went 2-0 against terran/zerg in a week where every other protoss failed at winning their game.
Now if that isnt clutch, Snow is gonna make the CJ protoss line the strongest in the Pl.
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This is such a biased ranking its not even funny. Jaedong winning flawlesly for whole month and overall better player in every way is worse than lucky Bo5 Effort? Did you even see the whole OSL? at the tiebreaker Effort was so bad. Seriously, it was very short-sighted evaluation.
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On June 02 2010 19:45 NightOfTheDead wrote:
This is such a biased ranking its not even funny. Jaedong winning flawlesly for whole month and overall better player in every way is worse than lucky Bo5 Effort? Did you even see the whole OSL? at the tiebreaker Effort was so bad. Seriously, it was very short-sighted evaluation.
I really love Jaedong and am one of his biggest fans, but JD has certainly lost momentum since the final loss. His ZvP against Stats yesterday was very shaky and his forgetting ling speed almost cost him the game and quite possibly the series.
And even in his interview JD didn't mention that he could have taken Flash in the ace match (the normal confident JD would have said that). I think the loss affected him quite a bit. :/
Effort on the other hand is looking like he's going to repeat last year's 25-3 winning record...
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savior isnt bonjwa anymore? wtf..
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Nice PR. Though its lacking the subtle contempt in the JD blurbs that I'm accustomed to seeing in Plexa PRs
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On June 02 2010 21:36 Mobius wrote:
savior isnt bonjwa anymore? wtf..
He is, but many people want to erase him from their minds after what he did. It saddens us tremendously to know that one of the greatest gamers in history would stoop that low.
Personally? I'll always love his game play and I'll never forget it and couldn't forget it even if I wanted to, but I can't forgive what he did.
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On June 02 2010 18:49 Elroi wrote:I told you so + Show Spoiler +Effort should have been #1 this month
No, he's in the right spot this month.
Snow this high seemed a bit iffy, but since his wins keep coming it seems that it might be the right place after all. Very glad that Baby is doing so well! Go Baby!
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Ok this is Flash's 8th TIME IN A ROW ON #1 SPOT on PR.
over 4000 elo.
twice on both finals in a row.
how is he not bonjwa?
becouse of JD-fanboys?
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^ people should really stop caring imo.
Do people really need some made up word to see how strong and dominant flash is?
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most people agree that flash's strength and dominance goes beyond bonjwa. that's why they call him god young ho.
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On June 02 2010 19:45 NightOfTheDead wrote:
This is such a biased ranking its not even funny. Jaedong winning flawlesly for whole month and overall better player in every way is worse than lucky Bo5 Effort? Did you even see the whole OSL? at the tiebreaker Effort was so bad. Seriously, it was very short-sighted evaluation.
I can't believe we still see posts like this, despite that Effort had an amazing 12 straight wins, including one against Flash going into the OSL finals, and even after Effort has won 7 straight games since the finals, including 3 proleague matches against decent-to-good zergs. You might not agree that, for the past month and a half Effort has been the second best player in the world, but to call his PR placement "such a biased ranking its not even funny" smacks of the very bias and fanboyism of which you are accusing Plexa.
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Effort is on a 18-2 streak atm, can he beat Flash's 25-3?
11 win streak in ZvZ, only JD has shown such dominance before.
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yeah tbh difference between #2 and #3 isn't that huge and effort was going to be one or the other. even if he screws up this isn't nearly as bad as plexa's high ranking of sea last month for instance. we'll see if e.g. snow midas and shine hold up; if they do, this will have been actually an exceptionally strong ranking in my view.
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