• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:38
CET 14:38
KST 22:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada2SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1793 users

Power Rank 05/31/2010 - Page 4

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 34 35 36 Next All
shinjin
Profile Joined January 2010
United States398 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 22:14:05
May 31 2010 22:13 GMT
#61
mmmmmm i think jaedong is worthy of being above effort...i mean effort did beat flash and thats an achievement in itself but i think jaedong is definitely overall a more solid player
and yea he needs a break lol
give it one more try because the best things in life dont come free.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-31 22:43:38
May 31 2010 22:41 GMT
#62
i can see it. the future PR
1. EffOrt
2. Snow
3. sKyHigh
4. Movie
5. Hydra
6. Iris
7. Nal_rA
8. Flash
9. Jaedong
10. Bisu

+ Show Spoiler +
lol jk but i wish..

Anyways, I think the PR is ideal because of Effort and Snow. Kal dropping makes me happy though he did push his team the most. Midas disappointed us all this month. BaBy is WeMade's Ace and dropped very few games. Shine? i didnt really check his stats but he has been winning. Fantasy on the PL is sorta.. eh.. he is the only non Z on SKT to be pulling his weight.

edit: holy fuck at Shine. i didnt know he had that great of a month. 4-0??? i didnt expect that but maybe he had the same mental clearance as effort did in the 7 hour long tie breaker
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Lucid90
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada340 Posts
May 31 2010 22:54 GMT
#63
Baby? Snow? Midas!?! SHINE?!!?!?

While Baby had a decent May I really don't think he's that great of a player, or atleast that he's good enough to beat JD in a boX. Yeah he won one time in a bo3, but he didn't beat JD on great barrier reef, the map beat JD. 4th is a tad bit too high IMO.

Lets first look at snow. "Nevertheless, with a super strong PvT and PvP" what?! Snow is good PvT. A win against flash and a 70% win rate is never bad, but good PvP? he's 4-7 PvP lifetime with only 4 games played in the past 3 months and 2 of those wins were against Much and Jaehoon who as we all know are AMAAZZIINGGGG at PvP.

Midas only won 2 games in may; against hogil and MVP. Yeah he lost to stork, but according to the powerranking, Stork is a nobody.

And I don't think that Effort should be placed above JD. Now I love effort to death, but I just don't think he's as good as JD in the late game. The 3 wins that he got against Flash were all using clever almost gimicky builds with great mindgames in the early/midgame. JD is just the all arround better player in all matchups.

I would of liked to see kwanro or calm or maybe even free in the powerrankings, because they had a decent may and they are by far better than like half of the people who got in today. Kwanro is playing good in the proleague, and I'd say he's playing better than shine, who got in. Sure free lost 3-0 to flash, but it wasn't so much free playing bad but more Flash curbstomping all protosses if anything.
My sc2 account: http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1296221/LuciD
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
May 31 2010 22:55 GMT
#64
On June 01 2010 05:22 raga4ka wrote:
To be honest i'm disappointed with Jaedong . Flash nowadays either cheeses does some wierd mech build with ultra fast CC or 14 CC in TvZ . I think zergs should abuse either 2 hat mutas / lurkers or some pool first opening and be more aggresive . His hidra bust was a good try , but he over comited and from the looks of it either didn't practise a follow-up and just all -in or was frustrated because he was down 0 - 2 and all -ined. I don't mind him being as greedy as Flash at least 1 game .

Effort's preparation impressed me much more . He would have won the first game if they didn't replay it regardless of the valkyrie's death . Because Effort was going for a 4 hatch hidra break after he build 5 mutas and 2- 4 scourge . Flash invested alot of gas in to valkery and goliaths , and probably wouldn't have enough for tanks in time to stop the hidra bust . His greedy build to match Flash on Odd-eye was good . He took the high ground expansion at 9 o'clock first meaning that if Flash scouted his natural and saw no hatchery he could potentially not scout Effort because odd-eye is a fairly big map and 12 hat at natural is more likely and pros normally move their SCV to the next spot after scouting the nat . And he played brilliantly in his other games punishing Flash for every little mistake he made .

I'm pretty sure Jaedong had the hydra break easily, but he focused the bunker instead of the wall. He didn't have to stand in range of the bunker at all...
My strategy is to fork people.
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
June 01 2010 00:01 GMT
#65
Thanks for not ranking Jaedong #2. Effort had the better month, and Jaedong stunk up the joint on the biggest stage.

But where the hell is Kwanro? He was the only stars player that was remotely alive last month, and he's still 5th in ELO. Not at all sold on fantasy, either.
... Knowmsayin'?
dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
June 01 2010 01:17 GMT
#66
Well at least we know (Z)Hyuk will be in top 5 next month
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
June 01 2010 01:32 GMT
#67
On June 01 2010 07:54 Lucid90 wrote:
While Baby had a decent May I really don't think he's that great of a player, or atleast that he's good enough to beat JD in a boX. Yeah he won one time in a bo3, but he didn't beat JD on great barrier reef, the map beat JD. 4th is a tad bit too high IMO.


Uhm... Jaedong himself admitted that he'd have lost that game on Great Barrier Reef anyway? He beat JD fair and square in that series. Have you actually watched those games? I bet you haven't, and I also bet you haven't watched a single one of Baby's games in May.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
June 01 2010 01:40 GMT
#68
Nice PR. I especially agree with the top 5. I hope to see the CJ players stay there for awhile!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 01 2010 01:46 GMT
#69
On June 01 2010 10:32 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 07:54 Lucid90 wrote:
While Baby had a decent May I really don't think he's that great of a player, or atleast that he's good enough to beat JD in a boX. Yeah he won one time in a bo3, but he didn't beat JD on great barrier reef, the map beat JD. 4th is a tad bit too high IMO.


Uhm... Jaedong himself admitted that he'd have lost that game on Great Barrier Reef anyway? He beat JD fair and square in that series. Have you actually watched those games? I bet you haven't, and I also bet you haven't watched a single one of Baby's games in May.


Just watch his latest game vs Kal. Kal stood no chance at all versus his brute mechanics and multi-task.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
June 01 2010 02:00 GMT
#70
I really have to disagree with your comment on JD/Effort. If Effort lost to flash 3-0, there is no way any person would put him above jaedong.

Look at each one of their months excluding the OSL/MSL final.
Jaedong 13-1, his only loss to Calm in a Bo5.
Effort 6-0

After the finals we have Jaedong 13-4 and Effort 9-2, I know this doesn't just look at stats but both had crazy match list against S class players. Jaedong has been ripping assholes open for the last 2 months, while he is being overshadowed by Flash at the moment his ELO was still well over the 2300 mark, and even after the final it still was. The only way I think ANY person would take EffOrt over JD is looking at the OSL finals, in which all games pretty much sucked.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 01 2010 02:56 GMT
#71
i wanna see Stork and Jangbi back on there
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
June 01 2010 02:58 GMT
#72
Shuttle can't PvZ? Shuttle had a 11 PvZ win streak in non-preliminary games few months ago which included wins against ZerO, ZvP specialist HoeJJa, and great. (Action and RorO too, but meh...)

But until then, he's only lost three other PvZ's, one with soO going just about Sauron mode.
twitch.tv/dizzywee
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
June 01 2010 04:09 GMT
#73
On June 01 2010 11:56 Mykill wrote:
i wanna see Stork and Jangbi back on there


They both just lost to SKT zergs, good luck.
Hi.
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 04:28:30
June 01 2010 04:28 GMT
#74
On June 01 2010 11:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I really have to disagree with your comment on JD/Effort. If Effort lost to flash 3-0, there is no way any person would put him above jaedong.

Look at each one of their months excluding the OSL/MSL final.
Jaedong 13-1, his only loss to Calm in a Bo5.
Effort 6-0

After the finals we have Jaedong 13-4 and Effort 9-2, I know this doesn't just look at stats but both had crazy match list against S class players. Jaedong has been ripping assholes open for the last 2 months, while he is being overshadowed by Flash at the moment his ELO was still well over the 2300 mark, and even after the final it still was. The only way I think ANY person would take EffOrt over JD is looking at the OSL finals, in which all games pretty much sucked.

You would think so, but fanboyism > real analysis
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
June 01 2010 04:35 GMT
#75
On June 01 2010 10:32 Mooncat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 07:54 Lucid90 wrote:
While Baby had a decent May I really don't think he's that great of a player, or atleast that he's good enough to beat JD in a boX. Yeah he won one time in a bo3, but he didn't beat JD on great barrier reef, the map beat JD. 4th is a tad bit too high IMO.


Uhm... Jaedong himself admitted that he'd have lost that game on Great Barrier Reef anyway? He beat JD fair and square in that series. Have you actually watched those games? I bet you haven't, and I also bet you haven't watched a single one of Baby's games in May.


Agreed, Baby's placing is totally justified. Everyone's Flash this, Jaedong that, and Effort there, but behind those four is the second best terran. Heck, I give Baby a decent chance of beating both Zergs in a bo3. bo5 is a different story.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
June 01 2010 04:59 GMT
#76
there will be a baby vs flash final in an upcoming SL
SoManyDeadLings
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada255 Posts
June 01 2010 05:36 GMT
#77
All I'm going to say is... Snow, YoonJoong AND Shine on the Power Rank?

Wtf, wtf, wtf!!!??
wsrgry
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
June 01 2010 05:45 GMT
#78
On June 01 2010 14:36 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
All I'm going to say is... Snow, YoonJoong AND Shine on the Power Rank?

Wtf, wtf, wtf!!!??

Why are you so surprised at Snow? He was definitely going to be on the Power Rank after he beat Flash, it was just a question of where. Maybe he is a bit high, but after Kal failed last night Snow was pushed up.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 01 2010 05:58 GMT
#79
On June 01 2010 14:45 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 14:36 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
All I'm going to say is... Snow, YoonJoong AND Shine on the Power Rank?

Wtf, wtf, wtf!!!??

Why are you so surprised at Snow? He was definitely going to be on the Power Rank after he beat Flash, it was just a question of where. Maybe he is a bit high, but after Kal failed last night Snow was pushed up.

Why are some people suprised at any of them? Shine just slumped after his post OSL slump where he tore everyone up undtil the semifinals where he met Movie (Argueably the best PvZ right now).
People seem to forget that Shine was at 4th once and deserved it (by that time). Dont get me wrong, Iove Shine as much as I love Calm.
And people suprised at Shuttle, Snow and Shine (and Stats for CBNC) have no idea whats going on in BW nowadays.
In the woods, there lurks..
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
June 01 2010 06:08 GMT
#80
I wouldn't argue too hard against Efforts #2 this month, but I just feel that JD had more momentum post-finals. But I suppose you have to view all of JD's and Effort's games to determine who packs the most punch this month.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 34 35 36 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Korean Royale
12:00
Group Stage 1 - Group B
WardiTV842
TKL 338
Rex122
IntoTheiNu 39
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 338
Lowko261
RotterdaM 221
Rex 122
SortOf 111
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5208
Hyuk 1418
Shuttle 942
Soma 737
firebathero 654
Stork 459
ZerO 386
Rush 151
hero 141
Killer 100
[ Show more ]
Barracks 99
Sharp 84
Aegong 64
sSak 64
Sea.KH 62
Noble 49
Backho 44
ToSsGirL 43
Free 40
zelot 27
Icarus 27
Sexy 24
sas.Sziky 23
Movie 22
Shine 14
Terrorterran 9
Dota 2
Dendi1136
XcaliburYe218
BananaSlamJamma154
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1857
oskar85
edward52
Other Games
B2W.Neo1290
DeMusliM367
crisheroes311
hiko265
Sick262
Pyrionflax250
Hui .41
ZerO(Twitch)5
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1192
• WagamamaTV260
League of Legends
• TFBlade278
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 23m
Replay Cast
9h 23m
Replay Cast
19h 23m
Kung Fu Cup
22h 23m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 9h
The PondCast
1d 20h
RSL Revival
1d 20h
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
1d 22h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 22h
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
BSL 21
4 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
BSL 21
5 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.