Do you like the direction B.net 2.0 is taking?

On May 29 2010 14:58 Ysorigin wrote:
Calling it right now! The poll is going to be 90% no and 10% yes!

On May 29 2010 15:46 Renaissance wrote:
People voting no are trolls, or family or friends of Blizzard.

On May 29 2010 19:00 MorroW wrote:
i didnt know 13% on tl were trolls and blizzard employees

On May 29 2010 19:03 Roggay wrote:


Or people who want sc2 to fail. I voted no, bnet 0.2 is a shame.

On May 29 2010 19:12 Subversive wrote:


Some people might have really enjoyed the beta or are voting yes out of loyalty to Blizzard, who knows. Personally I voted a solid No.

On May 29 2010 19:16 Tyrran wrote:



I did enjoy the beta, and i love the game. But Bnet 2.0 sucks .

On May 29 2010 23:54 sLiMpoweR wrote:
While i voted no i can see while some people voted yes. Its much easier to find games against similar skilled opponents. From the casual gamers perspective you dont lose much without chat channels because on bnet 1.0 they never left brood war usa-1 anyway. And instead of having to search through 3v3 bgh and and fastest games you can now quickly find a game and play.

On May 29 2010 23:54 sLiMpoweR wrote:
While i voted no i can see while some people voted yes. Its much easier to find games against similar skilled opponents. From the casual gamers perspective you dont lose much without chat channels because on bnet 1.0 they never left brood war usa-1 anyway. And instead of having to search through 3v3 bgh and and fastest games you can now quickly find a game and play.

On May 29 2010 14:58 Ysorigin wrote:
Calling it right now! The poll is going to be 90% no and 10% yes!

On May 29 2010 15:46 Renaissance wrote:
People voting no are trolls, or family or friends of Blizzard.

On May 29 2010 15:48 J1.au wrote:

I think you're the troll here.

Assuming you have confused 'no' with 'yes' on purpose...

On May 30 2010 01:14 TLOBrian wrote:
I voted No. Battlenet 0.2 is horrible. But on another note, I found THIS in the updated ULA.

Massive.
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Goddammit Blizzard.

On May 30 2010 01:34 Night[7] wrote:
I voted yes and wouldn't post except people seem to want to know why.

Now I don't think B.net is perfect, far from it. No chat channels and similar issues will inevitable bring down the "B.net experience".

Lack of overall ranking

This is UNNECESSARY. Let's look at the TSL ladder. That's basically an overall ranking of the participating players. Was it accurate? No. Neither was the iCCup ladder and an overall B.net ladder wouldn't be accurate either. The only reason to have 1 big ladder would be to satisfy your own astoundingly big egos.

Tournaments decide who is better. Not ladders.

No chat channels

This I find one of the most serious issues. But you can indeed connect with anyone you want anyway so I don't consider it to be breaking B.net.

No cross server play allowed

This made me mad.

Inability to change nicknames

You actually put this as a problem? Obviously you are running out of issues and just want to hate on Blizzard.

No LAN feature

This has been done to death and while I personally would prefer a LAN feature I can live with it and overall it won't change that much.

Inability to host games by name and password

This again I find annoying. This should be available.

Online replays

Blizzard stated their reasons for these and I mostly agree. The only argument I see is that you can copy someone elses build. But people have proven quite capable of doing that just by watching VODS.

So overall yes I like the way B.net is heading. Although some changes are needed.

On May 30 2010 01:34 Night[7] wrote:
I voted yes and wouldn't post except people seem to want to know why.

Now I don't think B.net is perfect, far from it. No chat channels and similar issues will inevitable bring down the "B.net experience".

Lack of overall ranking

This is UNNECESSARY. Let's look at the TSL ladder. That's basically an overall ranking of the participating players. Was it accurate? No. Neither was the iCCup ladder and an overall B.net ladder wouldn't be accurate either. The only reason to have 1 big ladder would be to satisfy your own astoundingly big egos.

Tournaments decide who is better. Not ladders.

No chat channels

This I find one of the most serious issues. But you can indeed connect with anyone you want anyway so I don't consider it to be breaking B.net.

No cross server play allowed

This made me mad.

Inability to change nicknames

You actually put this as a problem? Obviously you are running out of issues and just want to hate on Blizzard.

No LAN feature

This has been done to death and while I personally would prefer a LAN feature I can live with it and overall it won't change that much.

Inability to host games by name and password

This again I find annoying. This should be available.

Online replays

Blizzard stated their reasons for these and I mostly agree. The only argument I see is that you can copy someone elses build. But people have proven quite capable of doing that just by watching VODS.

So overall yes I like the way B.net is heading. Although some changes are needed.

On May 30 2010 00:04 Butigroove wrote:

You mean like automatchmaking that existed in wc3? (Only broken because of lack of players, not functionality)

On May 30 2010 01:34 Night[7] wrote:
I voted yes and wouldn't post except people seem to want to know why.
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On May 30 2010 04:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
All yes votes: BW fans.

On May 30 2010 04:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
All yes votes: BW fans.

On May 30 2010 03:41 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Ergh wrong account anyways, see above for online replays, the LAN feature is important seeing as when I was in a dorm I couldnt play anything online even on Bnet had to use LAN to play any games and seeing as a lot of college networks are shit you're limiting your market. The nicknames feature really you don't think this is a big deal? Look how often the top players on iCCup change their names so that they don't get bothered constantly if they're unable to practice without getting pestered every 2 seconds they're going to get frustrated.

On May 29 2010 21:23 enzym wrote:
Do you like the direction BNET 2.0 is taking?

original poll:
No (3439) 94%
Yes (230) 6%
3669 total votes

new poll, embedded on tl main page:
No (1270) 87%
Yes (188) 13%
1458 votes

i cannot explain this huge discrepancy. what happened? two digits for yes seems like such a huge number...

On May 30 2010 08:23 JoeSchmoe wrote:
people complaining about facebook integration and lack of chat channels are obviously hardcore nerds with no friends. facebook integration has proven to be quite fun and chat channels were just spam prone wastes of time. Why would I want to talk to random strangers when I can just make a party with actual friends? Oh wait I suppose if you have no friends then yeah you get off by talking to random strangers.

On May 30 2010 07:00 Night[7] wrote:
I seem to have misunderstood the online replays part so disregard my statement on that. I have no idea how often people on iCCup change their name but if blizzard brings back the old names with identifiers (this email era was just to test out that facebook thingie) then you can't just start whispering someone cause you know their name. The subject of LAN has been discussed thoroughly and while I agree that no LAN will in fact hinder some people it won't effect most. (This is from my viewpoint in soutehrn sweden. I have decent connection and I don't know a single person who doesn't, even at lans my friends almost never use LAN unless the game is pirated. But it might very well be different from where you are so maybe that problem is broader then I would imagine.)

On May 30 2010 08:23 JoeSchmoe wrote:
people complaining about facebook integration and lack of chat channels are obviously hardcore nerds with no friends. facebook integration has proven to be quite fun and chat channels were just spam prone wastes of time. Why would I want to talk to random strangers when I can just make a party with actual friends? Oh wait I suppose if you have no friends then yeah you get off by talking to random strangers.

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On May 30 2010 11:00 Zurles wrote:


Why oh why does blizzard favour people like this over us!

On May 30 2010 08:23 JoeSchmoe wrote:
people complaining about facebook integration and lack of chat channels are obviously hardcore nerds with no friends. facebook integration has proven to be quite fun and chat channels were just spam prone wastes of time. Why would I want to talk to random strangers when I can just make a party with actual friends? Oh wait I suppose if you have no friends then yeah you get off by talking to random strangers.

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On May 30 2010 12:54 Wintermute wrote:


Talking to random strangers who have a common interest (like, Star Craft) is one of the best ways to make friends.

Once you get past 8th grade, this will start to become more apparent. You'll also start to realize that "you have no friends" isn't really an effective way to intimidate adults. Only middle schoolers and horribly insecure adults worry about how many friends they have. Most of us are more worried about finding time for the friends that we already have than whether our friends list is long enough.

That's why it's so cool when you can get social interaction in a relaxed setting like a bar or a public chat room, because that can fit however much time you have.

Nice first post though. I don't expect to see a third one from you, given your charming demeanor. That's probably why you're so obsessed with having a lot of friends. Grass is always greener, etc.

On May 30 2010 07:54 DiTH wrote:
No chat,No Tours,No Clans,No Ranks,No Cross-Realms,No Lan,No playing without Internet,No Online Replays,No Custom Games with names?,No lag indicators? etc etc