• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:36
CEST 13:36
KST 20:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence2Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups1WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments0SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia7Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 General Discussion Playing StarCraft as 2 people on the same network [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence Pros React To: SoulKey's 5-Peat Challenge
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group C [ASL20] Ro16 Group B [IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! Is there English video for group selection for ASL
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Borderlands 3 Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1228 users

Power Rank 04/04/2010 - Page 11

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 32 Next All
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
April 08 2010 10:53 GMT
#201
T(riathlon) > Z in current MSL. This map looks really bad for the Swarm right now.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
April 08 2010 11:13 GMT
#202
looks like ro8 osl and msl might have only one zerg each
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
April 08 2010 11:26 GMT
#203
If I hear any more FLASH SLUMP HURP DURP from Flash fans...

For fuck's sake, you can't mock people for saying Flash is slumping when the only people who are saying Flash is slumping are saying it to mock these fictional people who are saying that Flash is slumping.
My strategy is to fork people.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 08 2010 11:45 GMT
#204
Flash's reign of dominance is over, I'm sure of it.

Shuttle has been great lately, I expect him to make it into the PR soon.

I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 08 2010 11:54 GMT
#205
Well flash actually have alot of "false" fans, as have most of the dominant players, and it's logical.

There are alot of people who want to see nothing but their favourite win at all times, and since flash is winning right now its convienient to cheer for him right now, and the moment he starts losing they will stop cheering.

It's evident in the livereport threads.

Ofcourse some of the posts are sarcasm but as I said the livereport threads reek of it.
Doesn't matter how well he plays for any period of time. As soon as he loses 3 games or more in a row, there will be alot of angry "fans". It's sad.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 12:06:37
April 08 2010 12:04 GMT
#206
On April 08 2010 20:26 Severedevil wrote:
If I hear any more FLASH SLUMP HURP DURP from Flash fans...

For fuck's sake, you can't mock people for saying Flash is slumping when the only people who are saying Flash is slumping are saying it to mock these fictional people who are saying that Flash is slumping.

Actually they're making fun of the people who in 2009 criticized Flash for not winning games that "matter", that is, not winning a league, when he was the #1 proleague player along with Jaedong and had a monster win rate. Remember when Flash was omitted from the power rank when he was "only" 6-2 for the month and winning GOM, just because his team was too awful to have made the playoffs?

But yeah, the "slump" joke is kind of old.

Haha did you see the Nal_rA oldboy episode:
Coach Hery: Flash lost a game!
Manager: Pack your bags, Flash!

On April 08 2010 20:54 StylishVODs wrote:
Well flash actually have alot of "false" fans, as have most of the dominant players, and it's logical.

There are also a lot of fans who enjoy being "better" than other fans, whatever the fuck that means.
May the BeSt man win.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 08 2010 12:42 GMT
#207
FYI: I am really not saying Flash is slumping or isn't the best player in the world. He still is by far.

Just that his play today and yesterday was not convincing, he wont get dual finals with this.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 08 2010 12:50 GMT
#208
On April 08 2010 21:42 SuperArc wrote:
FYI: I am really not saying Flash is slumping or isn't the best player in the world. He still is by far.

Just that his play today and yesterday was not convincing, he wont get dual finals with this.

Only the game against Hyvaa looked bad.

Against Midas, he was put at a huge early disadvantage due to the 14CC and failed counter. The rest of the game looked bad only because Flash didn't manage his usual miraculous comeback. This is nothing he'd lose a Bo3 or Bo5 over. His games against Hyun and Action were just the usual rapes.

The only question mark is that he basically has to defeat Kal in the OSL now, and that could be tough. (Flash is likely to win, but the odds aren't hugely in his favor.)
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 08 2010 12:55 GMT
#209
On April 08 2010 21:04 Djabanete wrote:
There are also a lot of fans who enjoy being "better" than other fans, whatever the fuck that means.


Care to elaborate?

Are you saying that it's annoying that some flash fans aren't calling him names everytime he lose?
That it's equally annoying that some flashfans dislikes the attitude off other flashfans?
That there aren't any difference between "true fans" and "bandwagon fans"?
Or was it simply a way to say that you think I said I'm one of those "better" fans?

I'm confused.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 08 2010 12:56 GMT
#210
It means having the louder WOOOOHs and WAAAAHs.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 08 2010 12:58 GMT
#211
On April 08 2010 21:56 okum wrote:
It means having the louder WOOOOHs and WAAAAHs.


lol:D
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
April 08 2010 16:12 GMT
#212
Did you guys REALLY took those posts seriously? I'm pretty sure they were joking, since a lot of people start screaming slump once S-Class players drop games to scrubs.
Flash, Stats, Reach, Tossgirl <> Boxer, Nestea, MC, Foxer fangirl | http://osu.ppy.sh/u/181432
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 17:14:15
April 08 2010 17:13 GMT
#213
On April 09 2010 01:12 Fumi wrote:
Did you guys REALLY took those posts seriously? I'm pretty sure they were joking, since a lot of people start screaming slump once S-Class players drop games to scrubs.


Those posts? they are endless so I'm not reffering to any in particular. As I mentioned, some of them are ironic. If flash had lost his game vs hyun we would see the result of it quite clearly.

It seems as some misunderstand my words so I'll let it be :/
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
April 08 2010 17:20 GMT
#214
On April 08 2010 21:55 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2010 21:04 Djabanete wrote:
There are also a lot of fans who enjoy being "better" than other fans, whatever the fuck that means.


Care to elaborate?

Are you saying that it's annoying that some flash fans aren't calling him names everytime he lose?
That it's equally annoying that some flashfans dislikes the attitude off other flashfans?
That there aren't any difference between "true fans" and "bandwagon fans"?
Or was it simply a way to say that you think I said I'm one of those "better" fans?

I'm confused.


Sorry for the tone... I guess was tired.

The notion that there is a "true" way and a "false" way to be a fan is the one I object to, unless you can show me someone who claims to cheer for Flash but actually wishes for his demise (???).
May the BeSt man win.
DracoVolantus
Profile Joined February 2010
Poland231 Posts
April 08 2010 19:04 GMT
#215
FLASH IS SLUMPING I SAW IT THE MOMENT HE WON WITH SEA BY LUCK WHEN 3 VULTURES EXPLODED TO THEIR OWN MINES BECAUSE TANK POPPED OUT OF FACTORY THE SAME SECOND THEY WERE PLANTED!!!!!!!!!!!

rotfl.

It's human to cheer for winner, we like to empathize with winners, because we like to win, and being afraid that the one we empathize with will loose, and overreacting if that person is about to loose is even better than nerdrage :D
EX CATHEDRA!
NurseArial
Profile Joined March 2010
Belarus109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-08 19:31:51
April 08 2010 19:30 GMT
#216
If anything, the intense reaction to a loss by Flash is indicative of just how crazy dominant he is. People just assume Flash will win every game so when he doesn't it's pretty shocking.

Seems like Flash is having the hardest time with TvT these days, I guess other Terrans are catching up to him, just like JvZ.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 08 2010 22:38 GMT
#217
Np djabanete. Well I guess you can't say true and false, just different in the way they approach him when he lose. Empathize with flash rather than with yourself is a difference.
The idea that you cheer for him even when he lost is not equal to wanting him to lose.

I agree with draco and nurse aswell. As I said it's logical that people react that way, I myself just find it misfortunate that it has to be so.
If I was the player I'd like to rely on my fans to support me in rough times and not just praise me when I'm winning only to throw me in the trashcan when I start losing...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 09 2010 03:05 GMT
#218
On April 09 2010 04:30 NurseArial wrote:
If anything, the intense reaction to a loss by Flash is indicative of just how crazy dominant he is. People just assume Flash will win every game so when he doesn't it's pretty shocking.

Seems like Flash is having the hardest time with TvT these days, I guess other Terrans are catching up to him, just like JvZ.


Well, according to his interview he didn't have much time to prepare. Also Midas in his interview said that he felt as if Flash haven't practised much for their game.

I feel like Flash actually needs some break, that's all. Recently, he has been carrying his team a lot yet again...

SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 09 2010 13:33 GMT
#219
On April 09 2010 12:05 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 04:30 NurseArial wrote:
If anything, the intense reaction to a loss by Flash is indicative of just how crazy dominant he is. People just assume Flash will win every game so when he doesn't it's pretty shocking.

Seems like Flash is having the hardest time with TvT these days, I guess other Terrans are catching up to him, just like JvZ.


Well, according to his interview he didn't have much time to prepare. Also Midas in his interview said that he felt as if Flash haven't practised much for their game.

I feel like Flash actually needs some break, that's all. Recently, he has been carrying his team a lot yet again...



Yeah, the problem is Flash surely wants KT to stay #1 and so he will keep practicing a lot, especially ace matches. One bad round of like 4-7 and KT will lose their #1 spot. Losing playoff spot is practically impossible though.

Long term wise I think Flash out of OSL would help him more than hurt.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
April 09 2010 14:28 GMT
#220
On April 09 2010 22:33 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2010 12:05 Lebesgue wrote:
On April 09 2010 04:30 NurseArial wrote:
If anything, the intense reaction to a loss by Flash is indicative of just how crazy dominant he is. People just assume Flash will win every game so when he doesn't it's pretty shocking.

Seems like Flash is having the hardest time with TvT these days, I guess other Terrans are catching up to him, just like JvZ.


Well, according to his interview he didn't have much time to prepare. Also Midas in his interview said that he felt as if Flash haven't practised much for their game.

I feel like Flash actually needs some break, that's all. Recently, he has been carrying his team a lot yet again...



Yeah, the problem is Flash surely wants KT to stay #1 and so he will keep practicing a lot, especially ace matches. One bad round of like 4-7 and KT will lose their #1 spot. Losing playoff spot is practically impossible though.

Long term wise I think Flash out of OSL would help him more than hurt.


Well, I hope someone in KT will step and take a part of his burden so Flash doesn't have to worry about proleague that much. I mean Forgg is playing decent recenty so I hope he will be send a bit more and actually win some games. Same with Violet and Stats.

If only KT had alternative ace (like violet in ro1) it would be ok. But WL showed how weak KT line-up has become.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 32 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
Mondays #51
Harstem202
WardiTV201
OGKoka 179
Rex89
CranKy Ducklings70
LiquipediaDiscussion
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16 Group C
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Afreeca ASL 15189
sctven
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 202
OGKoka 179
Lowko117
Rex 89
ProTech72
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 11308
Bisu 5469
Rain 5113
Flash 3143
Sea 2083
BeSt 1490
EffOrt 759
actioN 624
Hyun 483
Stork 348
[ Show more ]
Zeus 292
ZerO 189
firebathero 187
Hyuk 182
ggaemo 149
Soulkey 141
Nal_rA 136
Pusan 108
Mong 93
Mind 92
Rush 83
JYJ80
Liquid`Ret 79
Barracks 54
PianO 53
Aegong 48
Movie 39
yabsab 31
Icarus 20
SilentControl 17
Terrorterran 15
Noble 14
Sea.KH 13
sSak 12
soO 10
Bale 8
Hm[arnc] 8
Sacsri 8
Dota 2
singsing2364
Dendi395
BananaSlamJamma251
Fuzer 143
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1446
x6flipin520
shoxiejesuss467
byalli167
Super Smash Bros
Westballz9
Other Games
B2W.Neo505
crisheroes339
XaKoH 188
NeuroSwarm47
Mew2King44
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 350
lovetv 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 45
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota232
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
4h 24m
OSC
12h 24m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
22h 24m
Afreeca Starleague
22h 24m
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
PiGosaur Monday
1d 12h
LiuLi Cup
1d 23h
RSL Revival
2 days
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
The PondCast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Online Event
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Team Wars
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.