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Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 21 2010 06:39 GMT
#481
GONNA EDIT THIS POST TO BE MORE SUCCINT

I'm not attacking anyone. You just missed my first post explaining it was a joke (which was jovial! There's no bad intent towards DoctorH about that as it was a bit of a stretch), and then when I caps lock (hint caps lock isn't serious) a second explanation that it's a joke you get all angry and start quoting posts from other threads that...prove I have a consistent opinion, whatevs.

And now you're just ad homineming at me by somehow saying that using the edit feature means I'm saving face and I'm 'mass editing' (seriously does this even make sense) to attack people when I'm not. I'm not sure what stick is up your ass with me but everytime you address me (which is almost exclusively in the PR, actually) it's passive aggressive and hateful. I respect you a lot as a player but you're really condescending and, despite my wacky, and sometimes abrasive manner I'd be really keen if you'd be a little less hostile.

btw: most of my edits are because I have second thoughts. I actually consider that what I say might be going too far and decide to tone it down. Or other times I have something extra I thought of after the fact and want to add it. The edit feature is a really nice forum tool that isn't relegated to "attacking" people.


Sigh....

Where did I get angry when you wrote in caps lock? I only commented on the fact that you where starting to argue that Hogil is not a top Zerg overall, which no one in the thread had suggested and corrected that we had only been speaking about his ZvP.

Then I quote you from an old thread where you are obviously not joking, and show how similar the posts are to show you why people like me did not catch your joke (and obviously DrHelvetica did not catch it either since he decided to answer you seriously). Here you totally missed the point of my post and say it proves you have consistent opinions, OK fine, but how does that help us deduct when you are joking and when you are serious when you are writing in the almost the same manner? So tell me when was I angry in this post?

You think I would bring up your edits if I did not know what you had written in them before you edited them? You edited out several posts you made where you were clearly hostile, like bashing on me for not seeing that you had typed it was a joke (then you realize I was obviously typing my post while you made yours and you try to look funny by making the 3min comment in caps). You also edited out harsh comments on "how you dare to question someone with less than 30 televised games" which was also written in a hostile manner trying to make us look bad for not respecting your opinion about Hogils ZvP. To which I responded you are free to have your own opinions, but don`t get angry because we argue against them.

I dont know, maybe I am a little hostile in general when posting in the PR threads and I should improve that and speak in a more mannered way. Its just that I get easily annoyed when people are making awful uneducated posts about this game, and I try to correct them.
God Hates a Coward
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 21 2010 07:00 GMT
#482
I would like to point out this is a meaningless debate.
Jaedong
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
January 21 2010 09:26 GMT
#483
On January 21 2010 16:00 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I would like to point out this is a meaningless debate.

+1 way to waste your time guys
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 21 2010 15:34 GMT
#484
Yeah this has gotten really obtuse. How bout we just not talk Oystein?
Remember Violet.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
January 21 2010 19:13 GMT
#485
so next month stats are gonna be based on the msl finals (for spot 1 and 2)
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 21 2010 19:38 GMT
#486
On January 22 2010 04:13 StorrZerg wrote:
so next month stats are gonna be based on the msl finals (for spot 1 and 2)


i hope not
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 21 2010 19:38 GMT
#487
On January 22 2010 04:13 StorrZerg wrote:
so next month stats are gonna be based on the msl finals (for spot 1 and 2)

Flash should be #1 unless he gets utterly dominated. Proleague + OSL > MSL.
May the BeSt man win.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 21 2010 19:51 GMT
#488
i agree flash should be #1 but if jaedong can take down the best TvZ evar and get to a 16-win ZvP streak he's gotta look like a very close second. that said i expect flash to win

leta should be on the next PR too
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 19:54:41
January 21 2010 19:53 GMT
#489
Leta has turned into FBH 2.0. Mediocre in leagues, Great TvT, Good TvZ, and 3-7 in his last 10 TvPs. rofl.

That said, he's been doing very well in PL and is 9-1 in his last 10, with some pretty solid gameplay in his 2 cinch match ups. I wouldn't object to a low spot since the leagues have been cleared out for the most part now.
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 21 2010 19:57 GMT
#490
Imagine if Jaedong would beat Flash and all kill KT.

There would be no fair way to decide #1 then...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 21 2010 20:01 GMT
#491
NOW imagine if Flash beats Jaedong and All Kills Oz.

BWORD
Remember Violet.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 21 2010 20:09 GMT
#492
On January 22 2010 04:53 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Leta has turned into FBH 2.0. Mediocre in leagues, Great TvT, Good TvZ, and 3-7 in his last 10 TvPs. rofl.

That said, he's been doing very well in PL and is 9-1 in his last 10, with some pretty solid gameplay in his 2 cinch match ups. I wouldn't object to a low spot since the leagues have been cleared out for the most part now.


fbh was never as good as leta's been
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 21 2010 20:13 GMT
#493
On January 22 2010 05:09 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 04:53 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Leta has turned into FBH 2.0. Mediocre in leagues, Great TvT, Good TvZ, and 3-7 in his last 10 TvPs. rofl.

That said, he's been doing very well in PL and is 9-1 in his last 10, with some pretty solid gameplay in his 2 cinch match ups. I wouldn't object to a low spot since the leagues have been cleared out for the most part now.


fbh was never as good as leta's been


fbh had S-class TvT and TvZ
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 20:17:31
January 21 2010 20:15 GMT
#494
Even though Jaedong actually has the exact same winning percentage as Flash since his loss against 815 at the end of October (81.82%), Flash has done so with more games, with series against more top players and with more impressive play. The MSL really can't be enough by itself to make up for the complete superiority Flash has shown since the beginning of the season, unless he would play absolutely rubbish and lose 0-3.

Assuming the series goes 3-1 or 3-2 with Jaedong winning and both players showing strong play, then even if Jaedong would also All-kill KT it would still not be a clear cut #1 position for him, but it would at least be a possibility.

If Flash beats Jaedong and all-kills Oz everything will be suck.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 20:24:02
January 21 2010 20:21 GMT
#495
I doubt Jaedong will be number # 1 . Flash has achieved a lot this month . Unless he absolutely owns Flash 3 - 0 or 3 - 1 in a pretty one-sided games and then all - kills KTF , and even then there is a good chance that Flash will still be # 1 with Jaedong a close second .

Leta could take a low PR spot he maybe FBH 2.0 , but at least he doesn't suck as much ass as he does right now . Question is where will Movie end up , he did decent against Flash to say the least and with all other players sucking this month he could probably snick in # 3 , because i can't think of anyone more deserving .
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
January 21 2010 21:20 GMT
#496
On January 22 2010 05:01 TwoToneTerran wrote:
NOW imagine if Flash beats Jaedong and All Kills Oz.

BWORD

bullshit?
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 21 2010 21:49 GMT
#497
On January 22 2010 06:20 Jaeden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2010 05:01 TwoToneTerran wrote:
NOW imagine if Flash beats Jaedong and All Kills Oz.

BWORD

bullshit?

I'm drunk as fduck, but I think he's talking avbout bonjwa.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 21 2010 22:20 GMT
#498
Some people doesn't want a new bonjwa.
Even if the player is the best player ever lived and every other progamer is saying so.

to become a bonjwa today you must play like flash does now for three years in a row.
Then they might consider it.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
January 22 2010 00:33 GMT
#499
On January 22 2010 07:20 StylishVODs wrote:
Some people doesn't want a new bonjwa.
Even if the player is the best player ever lived and every other progamer is saying so.

to become a bonjwa today you must play like flash does now for three years in a row.
Then they might consider it.

:S. I'm 100% sure all the progamers think FlaSh is one of the greatest, but THE greatest? There are a few gamers right now that are comparable in skill.
HitEmUp
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8097 Posts
January 22 2010 01:23 GMT
#500
if flash is a bonjwa if he wins MSL then JD was a bonjwa right before flash's tear.
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