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WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
January 20 2010 04:58 GMT
#461
Flash is going to get owned in a few days.
WWJDD??
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 20 2010 05:33 GMT
#462
Yeah, by his mom when she hugs him for winning the MSL over Jaedong. The hug is gonna own so fucking hard you have no idea man.
Remember Violet.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 20 2010 06:06 GMT
#463
I just realized that I have absolutely no preference in the Flash/Jaedong match. If Flash wins, he's a fucking beast. If Jaedong wins, he's a fucking beast. Both of them are awesome. I'm looking forward to this match so much :D
May the BeSt man win.
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
January 20 2010 10:52 GMT
#464
Very good call about Bisu not making the Power Rank this time aruond. That game against Hogil? Disgraceful. O how are the mighty fallen.
My modesty is awesome.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 20 2010 15:50 GMT
#465
On January 20 2010 19:52 DanielZKlein wrote:
Very good call about Bisu not making the Power Rank this time aruond. That game against Hogil? Disgraceful. O how are the mighty fallen.


July and Nada have fallen. Bisu has won 7 of his last 10, several being PvZ.
Revolutionist fan
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-20 21:30:46
January 20 2010 21:25 GMT
#466
On January 21 2010 00:50 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2010 19:52 DanielZKlein wrote:
Very good call about Bisu not making the Power Rank this time aruond. That game against Hogil? Disgraceful. O how are the mighty fallen.


July and Nada have fallen. Bisu has won 7 of his last 10, several being PvZ.


Uh July has not fallen . He forced iloveoov to give him piggybacks several times by owning him in a Bo3 while playing in the back of a pickup truck in a warehouse... Him and iloveoov deserve a spot in the PR . I mean who else will be able to lift up July on his back while squatting ?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 20 2010 23:01 GMT
#467
On January 20 2010 19:52 DanielZKlein wrote:
Very good call about Bisu not making the Power Rank this time aruond. That game against Hogil? Disgraceful. O how are the mighty fallen.


HoGiL is one of the best ZvP players around. There is really no shame in losing to HoGiL.
RIP Aaliyah
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 20 2010 23:26 GMT
#468
I find it funny that there's like 10 "amazing zvpers," that it's okay to lose to but for almost any other match up that's hardly the case.

Poor PvZ.
Remember Violet.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 20 2010 23:50 GMT
#469
No, HoGiL really is at the top of ZvP.
RIP Aaliyah
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 21 2010 00:07 GMT
#470
Statistically ZvP hasn't been too bad lately, but I get what TTT is saying. So many Zergs have been going on monster ZvP streaks this season...(Z)ZerO had a 9 streak, (Z)EffOrt was beasting in it with an 11-game streak, (Z)Calm is 10-2 in it this season, (Z)Jaedong is on a 16 game ZvP streak, etc. etc.

The stats were posted a while back though, and ZvP actually hasn't been any more imba than PvT / TvZ this season. Just a lot of exceptional Zergs. It's balanced by the fact that Zergs have to deal with Flash imba <3
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 21 2010 00:53 GMT
#471
On January 21 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
No, HoGiL really is at the top of ZvP.


Jaedong
Zero
Calm
Effort

for non pvz snipers who it's "okay" to lose to in PvZ, followed by snipers like

Hero
Hoejja
Hogil
Hyuk (well he's more of a zvz sniper and has returned to his old ways but people seemed really impressed)

AND THEY ALL START WITH H
Remember Violet.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 03:00 GMT
#472
Hyuk isn't really good at ZvP. HoGiL is way better than HoeJJa. I'd say he's doing better than Calm, Zero, and Effort right now.
RIP Aaliyah
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
January 21 2010 03:10 GMT
#473
There are just too many good zergs in comparison with other progamers :p
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 21 2010 03:26 GMT
#474
On January 21 2010 12:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Hyuk isn't really good at ZvP. HoGiL is way better than HoeJJa. I'd say he's doing better than Calm, Zero, and Effort right now.


man you just have to ruin every joke I make
Remember Violet.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 21 2010 03:29 GMT
#475
On January 21 2010 09:53 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
No, HoGiL really is at the top of ZvP.


Jaedong
Zero
Calm
Effort

for non pvz snipers who it's "okay" to lose to in PvZ, followed by snipers like

Hero
Hoejja
Hogil
Hyuk (well he's more of a zvz sniper and has returned to his old ways but people seemed really impressed)

AND THEY ALL START WITH H

What the hell? Hyuk and Hoejja are NOT OK to lose vs, both are mediocre at ZvP (tho Hoejja do show some creative play, and had a nice lategame vs Kal, but beside that its not much redeeming about his ZvP when he cant linghop on Destination, watch his piss poor reaction timings vs flying for example)

Also its not like Hogil just became good at ZvP, he was raping people almost a year ago in winners league also (when Zergs was dying left and right vs the 4gate zeal/archon build) and he did it by simply outplaying his toss opponents. He was even opening with his 3rd hatch at his natural several games when everyone else was doing the 3base 5hatch hydra build and still he just outplayed his opponents in the mid\late game. He most certain belongs to your other group of Zergs and I would probably rank him slightly above Calm and ZerO. (Tho these I guess are more of a personal preference and can be argued for both ways, but you cant argue against Hogils result or stellar game play) Hopefully Winners league will once again bring him ZvPs so we can see him play more of it, since he really have not played that many.
God Hates a Coward
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 03:35:52
January 21 2010 03:33 GMT
#476
IT WAS A JOKE

THEIR NAMES START WITH H AND MOST OF THEM WERE/ARE USED AS ZVP SNIPERS

FUNNY COINCIDENCE

CAPS LOCK

that aside rofl at ranking him with Calm and Effort. MAAAAYBE ZvP but the guy is the absolute definition of a sniper given that he has some of the most abysmal ZvT and ZvZ ever. (Though he had one good series vs Mind I think).
Remember Violet.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 21 2010 03:46 GMT
#477
On January 21 2010 12:33 TwoToneTerran wrote:
IT WAS A JOKE

THEIR NAMES START WITH H AND MOST OF THEM WERE/ARE USED AS ZVP SNIPERS

FUNNY COINCIDENCE

CAPS LOCK

that aside rofl at ranking him with Calm and Effort. MAAAAYBE ZvP but the guy is the absolute definition of a sniper given that he has some of the most abysmal ZvT and ZvZ ever. (Though he had one good series vs Mind I think).

It was obviously for ZvP only, noone have talked about his other matchups or overall skills.

Also its kind of hard to get your jokes when you wrote stuff like this totally seriously recently and included lots of the same players.

On December 30 2009 13:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Jaedong and Effort are still miles ahead of him, and honestly I'd be skeptical to call him better than Calm, By.Hero and Zero.

God Hates a Coward
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 04:02:41
January 21 2010 03:56 GMT
#478
How dare I have a consistent opinion about players who mostly weren't included in my H based joke.

ps: if you didn't notice I posted long before your post telling Doctor H it was a joke (YES 3 MINUTES IS A LONG TIME. ESPECIALLY IN STARCRAFT TIME). Then you posted and got all indignant when I said it was a joke for the second time.
Remember Violet.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 21 2010 04:08 GMT
#479
Love your non stop ninja editing to save face. Just give it a rest man, we are fine with you having your own opinions, never have anyone said you can`t be allowed to have them. We have only given arguments why we think you are wrong to which you respond by going into mass edit mode and attempts at attacking us for not "getting" your jokes.
God Hates a Coward
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 06:13:50
January 21 2010 05:36 GMT
#480
You know what I'm gonna edit again!!!!

Oystein, I really respect you as a player but you have this knack to take things way too seriously and get on these really insulting tangents (I'm "attacking" people? Really? This was all grounded in a really lame joke) and weeeeird accusations about how I use the edit button (not really to...mass edit attack people? So much as to add in an after thought or, you know, correct myself), and it's all really obtuse. If it's all good with you I'd like to call it quits here because almost everytime you get in an exchange with me (which is exclusive to the PR threads, pretty much), you get really hostile and, honestly, despite my angry looking jokes (like the CJ one earlier in this thread!), forums aren't really the place to get spitefully abrasive.
Remember Violet.
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