• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:10
CET 05:10
KST 13:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners9Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!33$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship6[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1418 users

Power Rank 01/03/2010 - Page 24

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 42 Next All
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
January 20 2010 04:58 GMT
#461
Flash is going to get owned in a few days.
WWJDD??
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 20 2010 05:33 GMT
#462
Yeah, by his mom when she hugs him for winning the MSL over Jaedong. The hug is gonna own so fucking hard you have no idea man.
Remember Violet.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 20 2010 06:06 GMT
#463
I just realized that I have absolutely no preference in the Flash/Jaedong match. If Flash wins, he's a fucking beast. If Jaedong wins, he's a fucking beast. Both of them are awesome. I'm looking forward to this match so much :D
May the BeSt man win.
DanielZKlein
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1171 Posts
January 20 2010 10:52 GMT
#464
Very good call about Bisu not making the Power Rank this time aruond. That game against Hogil? Disgraceful. O how are the mighty fallen.
My modesty is awesome.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 20 2010 15:50 GMT
#465
On January 20 2010 19:52 DanielZKlein wrote:
Very good call about Bisu not making the Power Rank this time aruond. That game against Hogil? Disgraceful. O how are the mighty fallen.


July and Nada have fallen. Bisu has won 7 of his last 10, several being PvZ.
Revolutionist fan
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-20 21:30:46
January 20 2010 21:25 GMT
#466
On January 21 2010 00:50 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2010 19:52 DanielZKlein wrote:
Very good call about Bisu not making the Power Rank this time aruond. That game against Hogil? Disgraceful. O how are the mighty fallen.


July and Nada have fallen. Bisu has won 7 of his last 10, several being PvZ.


Uh July has not fallen . He forced iloveoov to give him piggybacks several times by owning him in a Bo3 while playing in the back of a pickup truck in a warehouse... Him and iloveoov deserve a spot in the PR . I mean who else will be able to lift up July on his back while squatting ?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 20 2010 23:01 GMT
#467
On January 20 2010 19:52 DanielZKlein wrote:
Very good call about Bisu not making the Power Rank this time aruond. That game against Hogil? Disgraceful. O how are the mighty fallen.


HoGiL is one of the best ZvP players around. There is really no shame in losing to HoGiL.
RIP Aaliyah
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 20 2010 23:26 GMT
#468
I find it funny that there's like 10 "amazing zvpers," that it's okay to lose to but for almost any other match up that's hardly the case.

Poor PvZ.
Remember Violet.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 20 2010 23:50 GMT
#469
No, HoGiL really is at the top of ZvP.
RIP Aaliyah
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 21 2010 00:07 GMT
#470
Statistically ZvP hasn't been too bad lately, but I get what TTT is saying. So many Zergs have been going on monster ZvP streaks this season...(Z)ZerO had a 9 streak, (Z)EffOrt was beasting in it with an 11-game streak, (Z)Calm is 10-2 in it this season, (Z)Jaedong is on a 16 game ZvP streak, etc. etc.

The stats were posted a while back though, and ZvP actually hasn't been any more imba than PvT / TvZ this season. Just a lot of exceptional Zergs. It's balanced by the fact that Zergs have to deal with Flash imba <3
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 21 2010 00:53 GMT
#471
On January 21 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
No, HoGiL really is at the top of ZvP.


Jaedong
Zero
Calm
Effort

for non pvz snipers who it's "okay" to lose to in PvZ, followed by snipers like

Hero
Hoejja
Hogil
Hyuk (well he's more of a zvz sniper and has returned to his old ways but people seemed really impressed)

AND THEY ALL START WITH H
Remember Violet.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 21 2010 03:00 GMT
#472
Hyuk isn't really good at ZvP. HoGiL is way better than HoeJJa. I'd say he's doing better than Calm, Zero, and Effort right now.
RIP Aaliyah
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
January 21 2010 03:10 GMT
#473
There are just too many good zergs in comparison with other progamers :p
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 21 2010 03:26 GMT
#474
On January 21 2010 12:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Hyuk isn't really good at ZvP. HoGiL is way better than HoeJJa. I'd say he's doing better than Calm, Zero, and Effort right now.


man you just have to ruin every joke I make
Remember Violet.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 21 2010 03:29 GMT
#475
On January 21 2010 09:53 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
No, HoGiL really is at the top of ZvP.


Jaedong
Zero
Calm
Effort

for non pvz snipers who it's "okay" to lose to in PvZ, followed by snipers like

Hero
Hoejja
Hogil
Hyuk (well he's more of a zvz sniper and has returned to his old ways but people seemed really impressed)

AND THEY ALL START WITH H

What the hell? Hyuk and Hoejja are NOT OK to lose vs, both are mediocre at ZvP (tho Hoejja do show some creative play, and had a nice lategame vs Kal, but beside that its not much redeeming about his ZvP when he cant linghop on Destination, watch his piss poor reaction timings vs flying for example)

Also its not like Hogil just became good at ZvP, he was raping people almost a year ago in winners league also (when Zergs was dying left and right vs the 4gate zeal/archon build) and he did it by simply outplaying his toss opponents. He was even opening with his 3rd hatch at his natural several games when everyone else was doing the 3base 5hatch hydra build and still he just outplayed his opponents in the mid\late game. He most certain belongs to your other group of Zergs and I would probably rank him slightly above Calm and ZerO. (Tho these I guess are more of a personal preference and can be argued for both ways, but you cant argue against Hogils result or stellar game play) Hopefully Winners league will once again bring him ZvPs so we can see him play more of it, since he really have not played that many.
God Hates a Coward
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 03:35:52
January 21 2010 03:33 GMT
#476
IT WAS A JOKE

THEIR NAMES START WITH H AND MOST OF THEM WERE/ARE USED AS ZVP SNIPERS

FUNNY COINCIDENCE

CAPS LOCK

that aside rofl at ranking him with Calm and Effort. MAAAAYBE ZvP but the guy is the absolute definition of a sniper given that he has some of the most abysmal ZvT and ZvZ ever. (Though he had one good series vs Mind I think).
Remember Violet.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 21 2010 03:46 GMT
#477
On January 21 2010 12:33 TwoToneTerran wrote:
IT WAS A JOKE

THEIR NAMES START WITH H AND MOST OF THEM WERE/ARE USED AS ZVP SNIPERS

FUNNY COINCIDENCE

CAPS LOCK

that aside rofl at ranking him with Calm and Effort. MAAAAYBE ZvP but the guy is the absolute definition of a sniper given that he has some of the most abysmal ZvT and ZvZ ever. (Though he had one good series vs Mind I think).

It was obviously for ZvP only, noone have talked about his other matchups or overall skills.

Also its kind of hard to get your jokes when you wrote stuff like this totally seriously recently and included lots of the same players.

On December 30 2009 13:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Jaedong and Effort are still miles ahead of him, and honestly I'd be skeptical to call him better than Calm, By.Hero and Zero.

God Hates a Coward
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 04:02:41
January 21 2010 03:56 GMT
#478
How dare I have a consistent opinion about players who mostly weren't included in my H based joke.

ps: if you didn't notice I posted long before your post telling Doctor H it was a joke (YES 3 MINUTES IS A LONG TIME. ESPECIALLY IN STARCRAFT TIME). Then you posted and got all indignant when I said it was a joke for the second time.
Remember Violet.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 21 2010 04:08 GMT
#479
Love your non stop ninja editing to save face. Just give it a rest man, we are fine with you having your own opinions, never have anyone said you can`t be allowed to have them. We have only given arguments why we think you are wrong to which you respond by going into mass edit mode and attempts at attacking us for not "getting" your jokes.
God Hates a Coward
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-21 06:13:50
January 21 2010 05:36 GMT
#480
You know what I'm gonna edit again!!!!

Oystein, I really respect you as a player but you have this knack to take things way too seriously and get on these really insulting tangents (I'm "attacking" people? Really? This was all grounded in a really lame joke) and weeeeird accusations about how I use the edit button (not really to...mass edit attack people? So much as to add in an after thought or, you know, correct myself), and it's all really obtuse. If it's all good with you I'd like to call it quits here because almost everytime you get in an exchange with me (which is exclusive to the PR threads, pretty much), you get really hostile and, honestly, despite my angry looking jokes (like the CJ one earlier in this thread!), forums aren't really the place to get spitefully abrasive.
Remember Violet.
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 42 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Korean StarCraft League
03:00
Week 82
HKG_Chickenman57
davetesta55
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 166
Nina 140
ProTech112
StarCraft: Brood War
Icarus 11
Dota 2
monkeys_forever328
NeuroSwarm120
LuMiX1
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0833
Other Games
summit1g13808
tarik_tv12420
JimRising 505
FrodaN135
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1015
Counter-Strike
PGL151
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt471
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
5h 50m
IPSL
13h 50m
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
LAN Event
13h 50m
Lambo vs Clem
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs TBD
Zoun vs TBD
BSL 21
15h 50m
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
18h 50m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 5h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 7h
IPSL
1d 13h
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
LAN Event
1d 13h
BSL 21
1d 15h
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.