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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
January 07 2010 05:37 GMT
#301
On January 07 2010 12:52 yhnmk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 03:04 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 06 2010 19:17 raga4ka wrote:
STORK LOSING TO CHEESE IS HIS OWN FAULT , PURE LOSING TO CHEESE IS HIS OWN FAULT . DON'T BLAME THE MAPS , MATCH-UPS , BUILD ORDERS , CHEESE ALL - IN BLAME THE PLAYER THAT LOST AND THEIR SKILLS !!!! A WIN IS A WIN NO MATTER WHAT HE DID IN THE GAME .

Losing in a practically unwinnable game doesn't make any person look bad you know, especially el nino. Theres only 2 protoss that ever actually beat anyone on el nino, and they're arguably the best pvzers out there right now.
Of course how they lose is relevant. Pure played like shit, his loss was valid. And stork totally misplayed against those mass mutas, though who knows how much some features of the map played a part in his crappy response, I donno.

There were no gas expansions for him to take, so he had no way to fight the mutalisks.
GANDHISAUCE
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 07 2010 06:13 GMT
#302
Yeah, but the general consensus is that an easy third gas makes a map Z>P.
Jaedong
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
January 07 2010 06:55 GMT
#303
On January 07 2010 15:13 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Yeah, but the general consensus is that an easy third gas makes a map Z>P.

No. Easy third gas for Zerg + hard third gas for Protoss makes a map Z>P.

Fighting Spirit has easy third gas for both players, and is fiercely competitive. El Nino has easy third + fourth gas for Zerg, and very hard third gas for Protoss --> Z>>P rape.
My strategy is to fork people.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33385 Posts
January 07 2010 10:01 GMT
#304
everyone writes this column differently, they just forget to put in a 2 page preface detailing all their criteria each time ;o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
January 07 2010 11:51 GMT
#305
FvP is back! The ultimate weapon is complete.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 07 2010 12:28 GMT
#306
On January 07 2010 20:51 okum wrote:
FvP is back! The ultimate weapon is complete.

It never left
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
January 07 2010 12:46 GMT
#307
I like the list. Would only change the lower rankings:
7 to Kal (this guy is underacknowledged at TL)
8 to Sea
9 to Calm
10 to Kwanro.
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 07 2010 13:02 GMT
#308
On January 07 2010 21:28 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 20:51 okum wrote:
FvP is back! The ultimate weapon is complete.

It never left


I would love you if you didn't hate Violet. >:[
Remember Violet.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
January 07 2010 13:55 GMT
#309
I guess an anti-JD club should be founded. it would have contless members, and at least less ppl would conplain about PR when one of its members writes the PR, some placements wouldnt be discussed this much.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
January 07 2010 16:09 GMT
#310
On January 07 2010 22:55 Geo.Rion wrote:
I guess an anti-JD club should be founded. it would have contless members, and at least less ppl would conplain about PR when one of its members writes the PR, some placements wouldnt be discussed this much.


People are whining way too much about JDs placement imo. Nobody actually argues that he should be no1 so they are talking about one spot. Doesnt seem huge enough for all the controversy to me. Besides, stork should always be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to silver medal
ppgButtercup
Profile Joined July 2009
United States159 Posts
January 07 2010 17:08 GMT
#311
So much Kwarno hate... + Show Spoiler +
he just 3-0'd Light
There isn't much wrong with Kwarno. He is the lowest-end S-class zerg, but he is still a monster and I think most progamers would tell you they fear going up against him.
If at first you do not succeed, burn everything and pretend it never happened.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 07 2010 18:39 GMT
#312
On January 07 2010 22:55 Geo.Rion wrote:
I guess an anti-JD club should be founded. it would have contless members, and at least less ppl would conplain about PR when one of its members writes the PR, some placements wouldnt be discussed this much.


Jaedong is one of the most well-liked and admired gamers on this site, wtf are you talking about.
May the BeSt man win.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 19:24:39
January 07 2010 19:20 GMT
#313
On January 08 2010 03:39 Djabanete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 22:55 Geo.Rion wrote:
I guess an anti-JD club should be founded. it would have contless members, and at least less ppl would conplain about PR when one of its members writes the PR, some placements wouldnt be discussed this much.


Jaedong is one of the most well-liked and admired gamers on this site, wtf are you talking about.

guess i'm reading the wrong topics, and the wrong articles.
Plexa is well known for his JD-hate, explained in countless audios and comments (we dont realy have other anti-fan admins, do we?), and the PR thread is always filled with JD haters, so are the LR threads time to time, although i havent read them so much recently.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 19:30:14
January 07 2010 19:29 GMT
#314
On January 07 2010 00:16 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 20:56 raga4ka wrote:
On January 06 2010 20:38 Malinor wrote:
On January 06 2010 01:06 Plexa wrote:
On January 05 2010 23:17 HuntingX wrote:
2. Jaedong is STILL IN THE MSL. Ignoring that MULTIPLE pros (and even top foreigners) have said ZvZ mechanics is so high now that it's basically build order wins, and ignoring that 2 of JD's losses come to Flash, etc. Yes, it's bad to lose to CrazyHydra. But it's ZvZ, Jaedong's ZvZ has been shaky as of late (his ZvP, on the other hand, has looked great). Stork has to perform BETTER than Jaedong to make up for the fact that he's out of BOTH leagues. That's the distinction that we seem to have trouble coming to terms with.

The single biggest issue I have with the "jaedong is still in the MSL" argument is that he's being spoonfed scrubs thanks to the retarded MSL bracket generation system. Let me know when Jaedong faces a real opponent in the MSL kkk


Is this even accurate? Seeding after Kespa ranks just starts with the quarter-finals. Of course JD was seeded in his Ro32 group (since he made Ro4 last year), and since he won that one, of course he got to play someone who finished second in his group (aka Firefist, could have been Ruby).

Until his series against stats (which hasn't finished yet), it has been a normal MSL for him. And in the Ro4 his opponent will either be Kal or Hwasin, so he will in fact face a real opponent then.

On another note, although I believe JD should have been second, I don't think he will win a SL this season, even if Flash wasn't the monster he is right now. I just feel that he does not have the dedication in his eyes that he had last year. Quite understandable after back-2-back OSLs. Even a tyrant needs to rest sometime.


I agree that Jaedong doesn't look as good right now , but if Flash get's eliminated i don't see who will stop him . With the exception of probably Light who is a solid TvZer still in a Bo5 would be tough for Light . A protoss player ? NO ; Kwanro ? doubt it in a BO 5 . I think Flash vs Jaedong on paper is a lock unless Best/Light cause the upsets ...


Flash has a tendency to drop to low caliber gamers, and he got to face Best, even if up 1 game, and JD. JD will stomp him, Best has a chanse too.


wtf? Where the hell have you been the last few weeks?(or months)
Or years if were not exclusively talking about individual leagues

On January 08 2010 04:20 Geo.Rion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 03:39 Djabanete wrote:
On January 07 2010 22:55 Geo.Rion wrote:
I guess an anti-JD club should be founded. it would have contless members, and at least less ppl would conplain about PR when one of its members writes the PR, some placements wouldnt be discussed this much.


Jaedong is one of the most well-liked and admired gamers on this site, wtf are you talking about.

guess i'm reading the wrong topics, and the wrong articles.
Plexa is well known for his JD-hate, explained in countless audios and comments (we dont realy have other anti-fan admins, do we?), and the PR thread is always filled with JD haters, so are the LR threads time to time, although i havent read them so much recently.


Have you read the best vs flash LR? Do you see how much shit flash gets there?
There's always a lot of people flaming the one player who is the most successful, flash is even getting more shit than JD was.
Jaedong is still easily one of the 3 most popular pro gamers (out of those who can still play this game at top lvl)

P.S. everyone give Plexa a break, it's his birthday after all :p
beep boop
x11tman
Profile Joined February 2009
Finland50 Posts
January 07 2010 20:11 GMT
#315
Bisu not in the rank seems pretty fail to me. Stork seems to be overrated too.

Too big a deal is made of Bisu dropping a single game to Stork IMO. Stork is an S class player after all. Similarly it's really not much of a shame for Jaedong to lose to Flash's TvZ. And I don't see Stork as "the reigning Protoss king".

Zero doesn't seem significantly better than Effort to me, and surely going 0-2 vs Stork with zerg is more of a shame than going 0-1 vs Stork with protoss?

Stork should be like 3-5 (with Jaedong at 2) and Bisu like 6-8 (with Zero out) IMO. Other than that I don't disagree that much.
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
January 07 2010 21:48 GMT
#316
On January 08 2010 05:11 x11tman wrote:
Bisu not in the rank seems pretty fail to me. Stork seems to be overrated too.

Too big a deal is made of Bisu dropping a single game to Stork IMO. Stork is an S class player after all. Similarly it's really not much of a shame for Jaedong to lose to Flash's TvZ. And I don't see Stork as "the reigning Protoss king".

Zero doesn't seem significantly better than Effort to me, and surely going 0-2 vs Stork with zerg is more of a shame than going 0-1 vs Stork with protoss?

Stork should be like 3-5 (with Jaedong at 2) and Bisu like 6-8 (with Zero out) IMO. Other than that I don't disagree that much.

thats like saying i'd like a what he ordered (coffee with sugar) but instead of coffee tea and honey lemon and no sugar
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 22:04:39
January 07 2010 22:00 GMT
#317
On January 03 2010 10:08 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2010 09:44 StylishVODs wrote:
sure then don't lower stork. just don't raise him above jaedong.

Stork just dropped out of both leagues and he is raised to nr 2 over jaedong from nr5 who would be in both leagues had he not faced flash and their skill is very similuar. Although I think jaedong is better.

i don't see how this is defendable, stork bias.

However, stork's play is slightly better than jaedong's. This is why he should be in #2.


Ahhh, that must be why he got knocked out of both leagues. Because he's playing slightly better.

Silly me.

It's not like Stork got knocked out by powerhouses either.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 07 2010 23:20 GMT
#318
HAPPY BIRTHDAY PLEXA
cw)minsean(ru
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 07 2010 23:54 GMT
#319
On January 08 2010 07:00 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2010 10:08 MuffinDude wrote:
On January 03 2010 09:44 StylishVODs wrote:
sure then don't lower stork. just don't raise him above jaedong.

Stork just dropped out of both leagues and he is raised to nr 2 over jaedong from nr5 who would be in both leagues had he not faced flash and their skill is very similuar. Although I think jaedong is better.

i don't see how this is defendable, stork bias.

However, stork's play is slightly better than jaedong's. This is why he should be in #2.


Ahhh, that must be why he got knocked out of both leagues. Because he's playing slightly better.

Silly me.

It's not like Stork got knocked out by powerhouses either.


That alone doesnt mean that he hasnt played better.
While I agree that Jaedong is better than Stork your post is disgustingly arrogant.
beep boop
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
January 08 2010 00:29 GMT
#320
All I can say is I'm glad I'm not Plexa this month. Making the PR must've been absolutely brutal.

I have no complaints. I do wish ZerO would win some more games at the end of each month, though...
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
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