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United States2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-28 00:30:11
November 28 2007 00:13 GMT
#1
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OSL Ro8-1
23 November 2007


Results
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Up > Hwasin @ Persona
Jaedong > Light @ Katrina
Bisu < Savior @ Blue Storm
Stork > Flash @ Fantasy II

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semioldguy's Battle Report
GrandInquisitor's Results & Standings

I have to apologize for the late report. After seeing the sheer glory of a five-day weekend stretched out before me, I completely blew off my responsibilities here at Team Liquid. Instead, I ate a lot of turkey and played a lot of Mass Effect. Now that the workweek has begun, however, I feel obligated to spend my employer's time writing the following report. Enjoy!

Up's game against Hwasin was a quick, enjoyable experience. Both players opened with vultures, but Up sacrificed machine shops and vulture upgrades in order to secure a relatively early command center while not falling too far behind in his unit count. When Up's economic advantage kicked in, he used a brilliant feint to draw Hwasin's vultures out from under a dark swarm. The maneuver worked; Up decimated Hwasin's vultures and coasted into his mineral line for an easy win.

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Note: Up’s vultures are firing. Hwasin’s are moving.

Jaedong vs. Light was not quite so well-played. Light tried to shoehorn an expansion into the middle of a tech build, which left him with just shy of no anti-air units when Jaedong’s inevitable mutalisks arrived. In a desperate move, Light threw up several missile turrets while attempting to build a "critical mass" of valkyries from a single starport. Jaedong calmly used his mutalisks to draw fire from the missile turrets while his scourge took out lone valkyries. As a finishing move, Jaedong stormed Light's base with a couple control groups of zerglings.

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Valkyries, Light? Really?

The game between Bisu and Savior was interesting, at the very least. While it's no secret that Protoss fast expansion builds are vulnerable to well-timed hydralisk attacks, Savior's play on the strategy was admirable. His proxy hatchery just outside Bisu's base allowed him to save critical resources by not morphing a lair or researching overlord speed, and starting off with a zergling speed build allowed him to deny Bisu's normally-relentless scouting probes. All in all, it was a well-conceived, well-executed strategy, though it didn't exactly make for an exciting game.

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An overlord is on its way—its very short, close-in-proximity way.

Flash’s game against Stork is bound to raise comparisons to his game against Rock earlier in the OSL, but there’s a notable difference between Stork and Rock: Stork is actually good. Whereas Rock cut probes and decided to gamble with an early reaver, Stork maintained his probe production, kept his units fighting so as to not lose his nexus, and only added a robotics support bay after having cleared the front of his base. Though Stork’s carriers ultimately caused Flash to concede, micromanagement won him the game. Stork’s probe, dragoon, and reaver micro were all exquisite.

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This is an open memo to Flash: Stork is not Rock, and Fantasy II’s distance between bases makes it ill-suited to a bunker rush.

Credit for these videos goes to someone other than me.
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Hwasin vs. Up @ Persona
Jaedong vs. Light @ Katrina
Bisu vs. Savior @ Blue Storm
Flash vs. Stork @ Fantasy II

The deciding games for the quarterfinals are coming up this week! Will Up pull off the upset win over Hwasin? Does Light have any hope of beating Jaedong on Fantasy II and Persona? Will Bisu deviate from his fast expansion build in an attempt to throw Savior off balance? Does Flash have what it takes to defeat a top-tier player like Stork?

Predictions
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I liked Up’s odds last week, and I like them this week. Though Hwasin is still the favorite to advance, Up’s excellent TvT, strategic sense, and unpredictability make him a threat to any Terran.

Light needed to win last week's game on Katrina. Having lost that game, I give him practically no chance to advance over Jaedong on such Zerg-friendly maps as Fantasy II and Persona.

Bisu is still my pick to advance over Savior, but I’d be lying if I said that my confidence in him wasn’t starting to wane. Katrina and Fantasy II are just fine for PvZ; Bisu has no excuse other than inferior play if he doesn’t manage to take home the win.

After catching up on Stork’s recent games, I’m convinced that Flash doesn't stand much of a chance against him; Stork’s mechanics are nothing short of the best in StarCraft today. While his game sense could use some work, there’s just no one out there who matches Stork’s potent combination of graceful micro and jaw-dropping macro.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
November 28 2007 00:24 GMT
#2
sAviOr>bisu
jaedong>light
hwasin>up
stork>flash
then...
sAviOr>stork
jaedong<hwasin
then...
sAviOr>hwasin
Ma Jae Yoon ftw!!!
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-28 00:26:54
November 28 2007 00:26 GMT
#3
Very concise writeup, thanks for this.

As for predictions: Agree with your tendencies,
Hwasin will have a very hard time beating Upmagic, who also beat Canata in Proleague, supposedly quite clearly, so his TvT is still going strong.

Jaedong should be able to take the map he needs.

Bisu: He seems to have a knack concerning Blue Storm in general. In the series against Mind he resorted to a proxy rush, in the series against Xellos he also lost his game there, it was that map where he got rolled over by Hwasin. So the other maps might show his other face again.

If Flash had won the first game *somehow* he could maybe sneak out a second win. But with Stork 1-0 up, I don't see him having a chance.
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 28 2007 00:30 GMT
#4
On November 28 2007 09:24 3 Lions wrote:
sAviOr>bisu
jaedong>light
up > hwasin
stork>flash
then...
sAviOr>stork
jaedong>up
then...
sAviOr>jaedong
Ma Jae Yoon ftw!!!


Slight changes but you were pretty close to my predictions
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Fatr1x
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile87 Posts
November 28 2007 00:33 GMT
#5
sAviOr>bisu
jaedong<light (praying)
hwasin>up
stork>flash
NaDa Fighting
uppTagg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden473 Posts
November 28 2007 00:35 GMT
#6
Hwasin > up
Jaedong > Light
Savior > Bisu
Stork > Flash
men du... Tagga!
ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
November 28 2007 00:48 GMT
#7
Savior-Bisu NOT VERY INTERESTING??? I disagree

savior's play was bold and perfect and i was on the edge of my seat everysecond after he put up the proxy hatch!

what would be NOT very interesting is if savior went his standard muta build and gets beat down again by the beesuit.
go OVERSKY MODE!
pheer
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
5396 Posts
November 28 2007 00:56 GMT
#8
agreed ray. i liked that game
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-28 01:06:26
November 28 2007 01:05 GMT
#9
Read more carefully. DJ didn't say the game wasnt interesting. He wrote that the game was "Interesting, at the very least". He only said it wasnt exciting. Which makes sense because it was one sided, and won in the early game. However, for die-hard savior fans, I'm sure it was incredibly exciting
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diehilde1
Profile Joined September 2006
Germany522 Posts
November 28 2007 01:24 GMT
#10
On November 28 2007 10:05 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Read more carefully. DJ didn't say the game wasnt interesting. He wrote that the game was "Interesting, at the very least". He only said it wasnt exciting. Which makes sense because it was one sided, and won in the early game. However, for die-hard savior fans, I'm sure it was incredibly exciting

u bet ur ass it was! damn all ins by ur favorite player, got to give u a heart attack!
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
November 28 2007 02:14 GMT
#11
Hwasin > Up @ Blue Storm
Hwasin > Up @ Katrina

Light > Jaedong @ Monghwan II
Jaedong > Light @ Persona

Bisu > sAviOr @ Katrina (zealots)
sAviOr > Bisu @ Monghwan II

Stork > Flash @ Persona.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
November 28 2007 02:20 GMT
#12
On November 28 2007 11:14 Last Romantic wrote:
Hwasin > Up @ Blue Storm
Hwasin > Up @ Katrina


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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
November 28 2007 04:14 GMT
#13
I think the people who won last week will win again this week, with perhaps the exception of savior v. bisu. As somebody said before, bisu seems to be pretty bad at blue storm. He lost to xellos, oov, and free, and resorted to cheese against mind. Granted, none of these are zerg players, but I think it's indicative of his general inconfidence in that map.

so:

Up>Hwasin
Jaedong>Light
Bisu<>Savior
Stork>Flash
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iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
November 28 2007 06:25 GMT
#14
good read, can't wait for the next games.
Xellos <3
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
November 28 2007 07:35 GMT
#15
COME ON SAVIOR YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!
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senseGOOD
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Korea (South)51 Posts
November 28 2007 07:42 GMT
#16
I was hoping for Savior to beat Bisu, so glad it happened. Take that Bisu!
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27158 Posts
November 28 2007 08:00 GMT
#17
Excellent writeup, brings everything together with highlights, useful resources, and valuable commentary.
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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
November 28 2007 09:42 GMT
#18
If Savior can top Bisu and Stork, Jaedong's path will be clear!
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
November 28 2007 14:15 GMT
#19
Savior has what it takes, I believe in him. As soon as it was confirmed that he was an actual god with no father and no birth, he was destined to win the OSL.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Melissa
Profile Joined November 2007
Vietnam12 Posts
November 28 2007 14:30 GMT
#20
savior will win this osl ^o^
Never mine so never mind
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19137 Posts
November 28 2007 17:46 GMT
#21
On November 28 2007 16:35 Hot_Bid wrote:
COME ON SAVIOR YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
November 28 2007 18:49 GMT
#22
seriously Etter, i love your writing.
Happiness only real when shared.
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
November 28 2007 18:56 GMT
#23
On November 29 2007 03:49 Mora wrote:
seriously Etter, i love your writing.

Glad to hear it! I may not respond often in these threads, but I do read the comments. I appreciate any and all positive feedback.

(But really, I thought this was one of my worst news posts ever. I had, uh, OSL news post writer's block... or something.)
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-29 06:53:18
November 29 2007 06:52 GMT
#24
thanks for the report. i really enjoyed reading it. <3 DJ
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
November 29 2007 07:09 GMT
#25
I thought alot of the blame for Flash's loss wasn't only in his decision making, but his micro. I mean, Stork's micro was good, but flash didnt even try to move the three early marines he lost when a zeal was coming at them. Those 3 rines in the bunker could've been game changing.

Other than that, hell yeah.

predictions:+ Show Spoiler +

Up > Hwasin -- blue storm (up's TvT is solid. so is hwasin's but, whatever)
jaedong > light -- fantasy II (short air distance, though i guess less of a chance of ling rape)
bisu > savior -- katrina (unless savior pulls something amazing, katrina is bullshit)
bisu > savior -- monghwan (as long as bisu plays straight up and solid, i dont see his multitask being outdone)
stork > flash -- persona (flash shines in early and midgame, but i dont see him being able to pull one of his aggressive openings on persona for some reason. also, i get the feeling that stork might use the swarms better than flash)
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
November 30 2007 00:33 GMT
#26
short but sweet as usual <3
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 30 2007 02:07 GMT
#27
I AM SO TORN ARGHHHHHHHHH
I WANT BOTH SAVIOR AND BISU TO WIN

if i had to choose one i guess it's savior, but damn ONE OF THEM BETTER WIN OSL
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 30 2007 03:18 GMT
#28
Excellent post as always DJ. The strong worded Stork love made me think it was something I wrote.
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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
November 30 2007 03:29 GMT
#29
Great report =)
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
November 30 2007 09:29 GMT
#30
On November 28 2007 09:13 DJEtterStyle wrote:
When Up's economic advantage kicked in, he used a brilliant feint to draw Hwasin's vultures out from under a dark swarm.


Dark swarm?? Where did that come from in TvT?
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Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
November 30 2007 14:27 GMT
#31
from the map?
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 30 2007 17:09 GMT
#32
Welcome to Persona where the vultures play, and miss all day. D:
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
December 01 2007 06:26 GMT
#33
On November 30 2007 18:29 Metaspace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2007 09:13 DJEtterStyle wrote:
When Up's economic advantage kicked in, he used a brilliant feint to draw Hwasin's vultures out from under a dark swarm.


Dark swarm?? Where did that come from in TvT?


Go power up the map they played on and take a look .
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proA.June91
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Vietnam445 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-01 06:57:54
December 01 2007 06:56 GMT
#34
bisu will rule them all :D
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Korea (North)116 Posts
December 01 2007 16:40 GMT
#35
oh yeah~


come on
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BaeZZi *
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Korea (North)116 Posts
December 01 2007 17:07 GMT
#36
I totally expect that the OSL Finals will be Jaedong vs Bisu, cause Jaedong who has a good micro for Mutalisk, prefers an offensive battle against a toss more than an offensive defense, for standing in toss's 2nd expansion way.

His character come up with hurried steps for everything and his mind has "Attack is the best defense at first time" as interview with OSL commentator before.

Bisu always thinks over, about putting a dagger in his bosom when more efficient use of attack or big deal of a dagger could be a reversal of the situation or when the other side falls into a trick.
Bisu (Korean) is meaning of "a dagger" which also meaning "stab other person with a dagger" when other side is off his guard.

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xBTx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada542 Posts
December 01 2007 20:11 GMT
#37
On November 30 2007 18:29 Metaspace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2007 09:13 DJEtterStyle wrote:
When Up's economic advantage kicked in, he used a brilliant feint to draw Hwasin's vultures out from under a dark swarm.


Dark swarm?? Where did that come from in TvT?


Its the map
stuffing feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken
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