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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33505 Posts
July 02 2003 02:26 GMT
#1
Well, the producer for the KPGA Team League made a post about the strike on PGR21.com, I'll do a summary~ Oh, and I was wrong about the progamers requesting 5 times more money in prizes, it's more like 3~4 times more.

He starts with all the pleasantries, hello and thank you for loving SC and watching MBCGame etc etc....

The Pro Team "Managers(KPGA)" (that's exactly what he said) Request:

1: At least 70,000,000 won ($60,000) in total prize money (NOT first place, TOTAL prize money, hi rea ;p) for a 3 month League
2: A 500,000 won ($400) appearance fee each time a team plays
3: Payment for each TV rerun
4: Stopping VOD services
5: A least 2 months of break each year

MBCGame's Offer

1: 45,000,000 won ($40,000) in total prize money for a 3 month league (INCLUDING the $400 appereance fee). If you remove the appearance fees from the total prize money, it goes down to under $30,000 in total prize money (two teams a week for 12 weeks).

2: An official rest period will be granted
3: VODs and Reruns will continue to be run the way they are now, considering the rights of the viewers, and the cyclic broadcasting nature of cable television.

The KPGA could not agree with the above offer, and thus they started a strike, as of July 1st.

Considering the huge gap between the KPGA's demands and what MBCGame can offer, it looks pretty bad
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Cresfy
Profile Joined April 2003
Israel977 Posts
July 02 2003 03:05 GMT
#2
I just hope they don't remove the vods
Zaks
Profile Joined November 2002
Bulgaria73 Posts
July 02 2003 04:03 GMT
#3
hmm - stopped watching vods a time ago - not only they are with very bad quality (hate to ruin my eyes anymore) but u do not learn anything from them ... U just have to be stuck with commenters view (and they miss a lot of stuff), and of course u do not understand anything in Korean ... Vods are nothing compared to replays (u can pause at any moment - and count players army limit - see how they macro/startegy and much more), and I really do not understand why they do not release reps. - at least people outside Korea will be able to watch and see how the progamers play ... I dont think people inside Korea will stop going to the show on live - it is just different, just like soccer match. The match is shown on TV and everyone can record it but the stadium is full - just because many people love to watch it in live ...

-Zaks
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ObtuseLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States72 Posts
July 02 2003 06:39 GMT
#4
I agree that on the whole VODs are weaker than replays, but there are two advantages VODs have over replays.

First is only available in First Person vods. It's useful to see what a player is paying attention to, how often he sticks on a particular area, and what he devotes his time to. This is something a replay can't always tell you, and definitely can't tell you as efficiently as a FPV.

The second is that you can watch VODs from bed. (-;
As long as there are people to flame me, I will continue to make stupid comments.
Edge0o
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada15 Posts
July 02 2003 06:57 GMT
#5
I hope this turns into "The Replacements" and Korea has to fly in top 10 wgt
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33505 Posts
July 02 2003 06:59 GMT
#6
also VODs are where the progamers do their BEST
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
UnderGroUndZerG
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden22 Posts
July 02 2003 07:26 GMT
#7
Looking foward to see them in strike and working at mcdonalds later selling french fries to a fat korea.
But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light. - Zeratul
Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
July 02 2003 08:37 GMT
#8
Lets organize "newbie strike", they should pay us some percentages for reaching their high level thanx to newbies. I want my .00003% share.
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Bl[a]Ze
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada111 Posts
July 02 2003 08:55 GMT
#9
fucking retarded, if bw is so damn popular down in kroea why cant they come up with the money? i mean seriously, they must be making good profit.
I SEE YOU said the blind man to the deaf man -.-V
halpmeh
Profile Joined October 2002
United States333 Posts
July 02 2003 09:52 GMT
#10
hahahaha 2 month break

wtf
halp meh halp yuo
Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
July 02 2003 09:52 GMT
#11
im sure the offer will change...
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-07-02 16:11:18
July 02 2003 09:59 GMT
#12
Although the announcement was made by the lead producer for the MBC Game Team League show, it's my understanding that the current demands by the KPGA, and in particular, their appeal for US $60,000, is with respect to not just the Team League, but to ALL leagues of at least 3 months in duration (ie the regular Starleagues & War3 leagues etc.).

Just in case people start getting confused again.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
July 02 2003 13:26 GMT
#13
I think it's rather naive to request that VODs not be released: people could just make their own VODs from their TVs. I think it would be best if they could somehow arrange it so that everyone (not just koreans) can pay a little for VODs to watch them -- but not too much, otherwise people will just pirate the VODs =/. Then after a week or so, they become free, much like OGN's system. As for the reruns thing, I don't believe I've ever heard of TV companies anywhere having to pay royalties for reruns T_T.

"The second is that you can watch VODs from bed. (-;"
You can do that with replays, too: just buy a remote for your PC or move your mouse closer to your bed .
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
July 02 2003 15:57 GMT
#14
Comments on KPGA demands.

The Prize money is perfectly acceptable.
The appearence fees should be a little lower, maybe 250 - 300 USD.
The VODs shutting down is bullshit, so is the money for reruns.
I guess the rest period is ok...
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33505 Posts
July 02 2003 23:49 GMT
#15
I think your understanding is wrong, because they have over 45,000,000 total in prizes for every league already that way ;o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
July 03 2003 12:15 GMT
#16
On July 02 2003 17:55 Bl[a]Ze wrote:
fucking retarded, if bw is so damn popular down in kroea why cant they come up with the money? i mean seriously, they must be making good profit.

The problem is SC fans are not exactly the rich part of the population, nor do they want to pay anything to watch games. So apart of advertising and cable fees, the TV compagnies don't make much money.

As one said, a way to increase income for TV is to ask for a small payement for VOD service. $10-20 for a 3 months-league service could be enough to get those $60,000. Another way is to sell their programs to TVs in other countries.
dboi
Profile Joined July 2003
Australia21 Posts
July 09 2003 00:18 GMT
#17
No one outside korea would wanna watch two korean boys slug it out in a boxing match! Let a alone duke it out in front of their respective pc monitors! sheesh!
rekrul loves aram!
dboi
Profile Joined July 2003
Australia21 Posts
July 09 2003 00:20 GMT
#18
they should instead sell shows to other countries of koreans eating dogs and shit. Now that's gonna sell big time!!!
rekrul loves aram!
ohjeohje
Profile Joined August 2004
Finland52 Posts
October 22 2004 20:12 GMT
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