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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 07 2003 12:41 GMT
#1
Ret’s quest for a 5 match Liquibition streak is starting to look rather plausible. He iced FroZ in his first match with an easy 4-0. In his next match he gunned down Legionnaire in a close 4-3 skirmish. Ret’s 3rd opponent is [pG]Infinity. Last year Infinity got 3rd in WCG Germany, earning him his first trip to the WCG Grand Finals. But he was in a group with Elky/Grrr so didn’t have much of a chance to qualify for the bracket round. Infinity made it to WCG playing his best race, which is Terran, but now plays random sometimes or picks his race according to the map (because that is what real men do). Can the Genteel German’s extrapolation yield a plan good enough to take down the Dogmatic Dutchman?

Game 1
Map: The Lost Temple
The Game: Infinity Terran at 3, Ret Zerg at 6. Infinity went 1 rax – tech while Ret did his favorite (and perhaps only) ZvT opening on Temple – Early exp. Infinity’s SCV scouted Ret’s position first and saw him early expanding and also saw that Ret’s pool was a tad bit tardy. He was pumping marines from his 1 rax and sent the marines along with 4 more SCV’s. Infinity’s bunker was finished long before Ret’s sunken / lings were going to come. Ret lost some drones and his hatchery and was left with a morphing lair in his main and some zerglings. Infinity was able to tech much faster because he only went 1 rax and had gas, so he went for some vultures / wraith / scan. Right after Ret through down his hydra den, he tried to attack the bunker with roughly 12 zerglings. The full bunker and 1 repairing SCV proved heartier as all the lings died when the bunker was at 5 life. Infinity then sent in 3 vultures and Ret quit the game.

1-0 Infinity

Game 2
Map: Gaema Gowon
The Game: Infinity Terran at 8, Ret Zerg at 5. I don’t know why Ret chose Gaema (They had a list of around 10 maps, loser from previous game chooses map). TvZ is basically the only imbalanced matchup on that map. Once again Ret opened with early expand but th

is time Infinity went 2 rax. Knowing they were at the closest positions on that map, Infinity rushed with marines and 7 SCV’s. Ret started making a sunken and tried defending it with virtually all of his drones and lings, but Infinity’s slave army demolished Ret’s petty defenses.

2-0 Infinity

Game 3
Map: Plains to Hill
The Game: Infinity Zerg at top right, Ret Zerg at top left. After two easy cheese wins Infinity decided to mix it up and try his hand at ZvZ versus a Ret who is rumored to not be as good at ZvZ as he is at ZvP and ZvT. Ret opened with 9 pool while infinity went for a gas – pool after overlord build. Ret’s lings found Infinity’s base first and put major heat on Infinity as his lings had just spawned and he had to use drones / lings to defend against Ret’s rush. Ret got a small advantage, which he pressed and continued to make lings. Infinity tried sneaking lings into Ret’s base but was always unsuccessful. Ret made a large attack with around 24 zerglings on Infinity’s main just as both their spires were done and killed Infinity before any mutalisks could hatch.

2-1 Infinity

Game 4
Map: Neo Forbidden Zone
The Game: Infinity Terran at bottom left, Ret Zerg at bottom right. This game basically went down very similarly to the NFZ game in the Ret versus Legionnaire series. Infinity went goliath drop while Ret went 2 hat hydra / lurker drop. Infinity’s drop got to Ret’s base and he parked goliaths behind Ret’s minerals so that Ret’s sunken couldn’t touch them. The goliaths killed a bunch of drones and a few hydras. Ret’s only hope to defend himself was his 1 lurker which died to quadruple autocannon fire as it was burrowing. It’s safe to say Ret hates this map.

3-1 Infinity

Game 5
Map: Nostalgia
The Game: Infinity Terran at top right, Ret Zerg at bottom right. Ret opened with an early expand build while Infinity went 2 fact vultures. The vultures did absolutely nothing to hurt Ret because Ret had a sunken and lings to block the ramp to his main. Ret then went 3 hat speedling / lurker while Infinity mined up Ret’s entrance. Ret sent out lings and blazed a skinny trail to Infinity’s main. Infinity was expanding at the time but the Ling/Lurker easily put an end to that and contained Infinity. Ret then macro whored by upgrading hydras / expanding twice / making a lot of hydralisks. Infinity finally broke Ret’s lurker containment, but Ret laughed it off and sent in a huge wave of hydralisks and ended the game. This is basically exactly how ilnp beat VeG[pG] in the WDT finals on this map.

3-2 Infinity

Game 6
Map: Charity
The Game: Infinity Protoss at top right, Ret Zerg at bottom right. Ret opened with 2 hat scourge + drop + 1 hydralisk to stop a sair from getting any kills. Infinity went for the standard sair / reaver / cannon island style. Ret got drop first and double expanded at his natural island. Infinity got his first reaver really late because he decided to go 2 stargate sairs with +1 attack and expand to the middle left island fast. Ret sunkened up and started pumping hydra’s again once he had a lot of scourge. As Infinity was warping in a nexus / cannons at the upper middle island, Ret managed to sneak a 3 hydralisk drop past Infinity’s corsair fleet, after losing 1 overlord and 4 hydralisks in another spot, that killed the cannons and started spitting at the nexus. Infinity’s first reaver arrived before the hydralisks did any significant damage to the nexus. At this point they both had 2 expands and Infinity continued to patrol his sair/reaver around the map while Ret built some more +1 attack hydra’s for defense and teched to greater spire. Ret tried expanding to the middle right and the bottom left main base. Infinity saw both of them and first dropped and killed the hatchery at middle right without any retaliation from Ret. Infinity then took 2 of his reavers and dropped them on bottom left while he took his sairs and 2 more reavers to Ret’s gas natural. The dual reaver drop on each location killed the hatcheries and Ret was left with 1 expand that didn’t have any gas as he scrambled to grab more expands with his newly morphed devourer squadron. Ret then harassed the probes at Infinity’s expansions with a bunch of devourers and 1-2 guardians at a time. There was nothing the sairs could do, as devourers would have devoured them if the sairs tried to stand up to them. Infinity then tried expanding twice more and teched up to scouts / templars in a desperate attempt to rebuff the aerial harassment. With reaver / cannon / scout defense Infinity was then able to hold one of his new expansions and reclaim his expansion that had been annoyed to death by guardian / dev. Ret tried attacking Infinity’s new expansion with a hydra drop/devourers/guardians but the hydras/guards died to cannon fire and scout missiles before they could do any damage. The game ended on that note. Infinity kept expanding while Ret was starving for minerals and couldn’t expand. Ret kept trying to kill expansions but Infinity kept saving them with cannon/ templar / reaver and got a large advantage, so Ret had to quit the game.

4-2 Infinity.

Rekrul’s Rating of the Games in this Match: 2 out of 10. All of the games were 1 sided and crappy with the exception of the final game, which was quite nice.

Island maps proved to be Ret’s weakness this time around as he lost to an Infinity that he was confident he was going to beat. Ret made a great run at Liquibition by beating two very fierce opponents. He showed us that he is capable of really great macro and overall game play. Too bad his streak had to end like this. We really didn’t get a good taste of what Infinity has to offer because of the nature of the games in this series. Hopefully with his next opponent, Daaman, we will see what he is truly made of. Daaman is easily top 5 outside of Korea right now and I expect him to do very well in Liquibition.

~

why so 진지해?
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
June 07 2003 12:52 GMT
#2
gw =]
Memory lane in nice
TheBlownOne
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia11 Posts
June 07 2003 12:53 GMT
#3
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TheBlownOne
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia11 Posts
June 07 2003 12:54 GMT
#4
btw nice report
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
June 07 2003 12:56 GMT
#5
Yikes, Daaman is a tough man
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
June 07 2003 13:13 GMT
#6
daaman will win. too bad ret didnt though :/
gw infinity
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
June 07 2003 13:22 GMT
#7
Rek MSN having?

-Mynock
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1597 Posts
June 07 2003 13:30 GMT
#8
good work infinity
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 07 2003 13:32 GMT
#9
rekruler@hotmail.com having
why so 진지해?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
June 07 2003 13:35 GMT
#10
"Log on to MSN" button having too?

-Mynock
Pol
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland1187 Posts
June 07 2003 14:02 GMT
#11
a (
unchained
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden122 Posts
June 07 2003 18:19 GMT
#12
WHUWHU
sdf sdf
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28700 Posts
June 07 2003 19:00 GMT
#13
I voted infinity!
Moderator
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-06-07 20:09:52
June 07 2003 20:06 GMT
#14
@theblowone should i host guillotine instead of charity?
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
IHaveNoSound
Profile Joined May 2003
Australia127 Posts
June 08 2003 00:56 GMT
#15
meh, good to see terran people are raping early zerg expo like i posted about ages ago. its just a stupid option when scvs own so much. >

and its good ownage when three different races are used vs zerg
Zob
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany226 Posts
June 08 2003 01:38 GMT
#16
I didnt vote at all. Why didn't you put a newspost up before the Games?
TheBlownOne
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia11 Posts
June 08 2003 04:55 GMT
#17
@infinity[pG]
no then u would have been forced to show real skill
cuz ret hosted imbalanced zvt maps too
lol
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
June 08 2003 05:15 GMT
#18
I get your point, but i actually had planned a totally different strat in both game 1 and 2, which you can see by me going for 1rax in game 1 and 11/13 rax in game 2 which are obviously no rush bos. first game i saw my chance for harassing him early on so my vults/wraith combo would do more damage because of the close spots and he obviously did a way too risky build when it dies to a 1rax bunker rush. similar scene in game 2, he fast expands of gaema even with his hatchery delayed by an scv, which is something you just can't do
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Grotfang
Profile Joined May 2003
Belgium490 Posts
June 08 2003 05:47 GMT
#19
it's not infinity's fault, he thought his opponent was taking too much risk and he proved himself right. Yes "what a gosu", that is well played wether you like it or not :/
No plz only LT.. no not TvT.. no.. ok cancel?
Sky101
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States1758 Posts
June 08 2003 07:17 GMT
#20
Yes I definitely notice Infinity had no attempt to rush, it's just ret's pool was a little late so Infinity saw this chance and took advantage of... no shame in there, good scouting=thanx..
Peter, Dang, pm me!!!
sheepliar
Profile Joined March 2003
25 Posts
June 08 2003 07:48 GMT
#21
hey cant you invite SAFT to play in Team Liquid Exhibition ? plz -,- safr owns!!!
TheBlownOne
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia11 Posts
June 08 2003 08:03 GMT
#22
yo every1 rushs then
cuz win is that important and u shud shit on a good game
taking 6 scvs then or so
is really no rush
just rets fault
i c
now i know that rushers rnt bm its just their enemys fault
if u rnt doing 8 pool double 9 rax ownz u
just ur fault... why 10 pool...newbie
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
June 08 2003 09:06 GMT
#23
ok i really tried
but you are obviously just a stupid newbie so not worth discussing anything, just go back to your 20 min no rush games.
next time i'm gonna triple expand and when he attacks before i get 200 supply he is a stupid rusher that shits on a good game...
on high level you have to scout anything and expect everything and be prepared, otherwise you just dont deserve a win. i didnt whine about his 9pool rush in zvz either because it was my fault that i built vespine before pool on p2h
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
TheBlownOne
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia11 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-06-08 09:19:48
June 08 2003 09:18 GMT
#24
u r not playing on high level
infinity
definitely not.
oh yeah infinity that with the zz is the same yo
building vespine before pool is way different than 11 hatch or 12 hatch in zvt
btw if u think im a stupid newbie then we could play a bo7 too
show me ur high level gaming vs daaman
haha that will be such a rape
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
June 08 2003 10:24 GMT
#25
someone ban this guy plz
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
TheBlownOne
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia11 Posts
June 08 2003 10:37 GMT
#26
good response
typical infinity style
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
June 08 2003 11:12 GMT
#27
=/
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-06-08 11:43:34
June 08 2003 11:38 GMT
#28
No really, that guy's asking for a ban. He just started posting(apparently from post counts) and look at the impression he's making already!

Oh yeah: Once again he only did what he knew would work against his enemy's strategy. I suppose you expect to eraly 6-exp as a zerg and when you die to first 12 marines and 2 medics, your enemy shit on good game. What a joke! If just taking 6 scvs with your early marines and attacking was such a good strategy, people would alwayd do it since people like to win. But they don't, in fact, I'd say the scv/marine rush in TvZ is rare. That's because it's countered by low-risk aggressive builds and once that attempt fails, you die.

So, I don't know.... here's some cock for you 8======D
TheBlownOne
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia11 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-06-08 11:49:04
June 08 2003 11:48 GMT
#29
u know when the scv rush works?
when u denie the hatch of the z for like 15 seconds
thats not that hard when u r good
then run into his main and harass the drones a bit
go 10 rax 11 rax
get 1 more scv and z will be afraid of bunker rush and send some more drones to defend his hatch
then 6 rines and 4 more scvs go
yo hard strat.
never works.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28700 Posts
June 08 2003 11:58 GMT
#30
he's banned.
Moderator
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 08 2003 12:48 GMT
#31
Pssh!

Infinity owns !!
ModeratorFather of bunnies
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
June 08 2003 12:53 GMT
#32
TheBlownOne, when will you understand zerg is not fucking entitled to a free expansion?
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4511 Posts
June 08 2003 13:10 GMT
#33
it is just u gotta do it safely, i just changed my build like 4 days ago cuz i was doing more fungames, as you can see vs froz i do 9 / 11 every game..changed that 4 days ago dunno y
Team Liquid
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
June 08 2003 17:02 GMT
#34
Well it shouldn't be
NoNameLoser
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1508 Posts
June 08 2003 21:04 GMT
#35
anymore dumbshits like theblowone and infinity will become an ignorrant #$%^& just like rek.

Gj on that Infinity. I believe that if a man can drive a car but dont how to start it, that doesn't make him a good driver.

Show daaman that he is not "Daa" anymore.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 09 2003 11:14 GMT
#36
Why am I "ignorrant" ?
why so 진지해?
NoNameLoser
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1508 Posts
June 09 2003 16:31 GMT
#37
BosNia)_zL.99
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada98 Posts
June 10 2003 09:18 GMT
#38
On June 08 2003 20:48 TheBlownOne wrote:
u know when the scv rush works?
when u denie the hatch of the z for like 15 seconds
thats not that hard when u r good
then run into his main and harass the drones a bit
go 10 rax 11 rax
get 1 more scv and z will be afraid of bunker rush and send some more drones to defend his hatch
then 6 rines and 4 more scvs go
yo hard strat.
never works.




LOL WHAT THE F---

YOUR A f.o.b. newbie just stfu rofl
soon too june ^_^
fysh1997
Profile Joined May 2003
United States28 Posts
June 11 2003 12:04 GMT
#39
did I read it correctly a few posts ago? did blowone actually imply that rushing is bm? what an idiot, obviously he only plays the NR 15 minute zero clutter maps...jeez. well played infinity.
Well Im not saying Id like to build a summer home here, but the trees are actually quite lovely
Crimson..
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada54 Posts
February 09 2006 21:04 GMT
#40
gj
You win some you lose some you cant win them all.
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