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On April 30 2013 08:42 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Bah, Bomber is overrated. The only reason he keeps on "disappointing" is people keep overrating him. Don't get me wrong, he's good, and lately he's looking stronger than ever, but he's not, say, a potential code S champion.
Taeja and Bomber are very close in skill, but I think Taeja gets out of the group over him for one reason: his higher seeding has him opening against his choice opponent in Samsung's Shine, whereas Bomber has to start against one of the toughest opponents in the world ATM. If their positions were switched I'd say sOs & Bomber but the brackets mean I think you have to favour Taeja by a tiny margin.
Although there's a very good chance Taeja and Bomber battle it out in the final match for the second spot in the group, which is a very close match to call. When they met in last season's ro16, Taeja completely outclassed him, but in their most recent meeting at MLG, Bomber destroyed Taeja 3-0. I think there might be some mitigating factors, Taeja had lack of HotS practice due to his deep run in code S + proleague + injuries limiting practice, but still. Very close to call b/w these two. I'm going with sOs & Taeja.
Bomber is both under and over rated depending on who you talk to and their perspective on what "good" is and how to measure it.
Its mostly down to his playstyle - He plays Terran like a sledgehammer, winding back and back and back, on the verge of losing his balance and toppling over, only to then launch forward at the perfect moment and bludgeon the opponent with unstoppable force. All of the power in it relies on whether the opponent can send him off balance before the second phase of his gameplan.
On the other hand, he's really, really fucking good at making this work, and a lesser player than Bomber simply CAN'T make it work.
Or at least, thats how I see it.
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I just noticed that sOs has only played pvp this round in proleague with a record of 4-3. Thats all ive seen him play in Hots. I hope he is good in the other matchups. Someone has to carry the protoss hope in Code S.
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"hail mary knock out punches"
Even one sports reference is too many.
On topic: Yes please don't disappoint us bomber!
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To be honest I think the writer has no knowledge of the players. Why is shine going to lose 0-4? I am not a shine fan or anything but the writer just seem to not know anything about the sc2 leagues going on or even proleague.
The assumptions he make have no evidence and I think this is very poorly written.
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I say TaeJa advances in first and sOs advances in second.
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On April 30 2013 09:36 TwentyOneJ wrote:
To be honest I think the writer has no knowledge of the players. Why is shine going to lose 0-4? I am not a shine fan or anything but the writer just seem to not know anything about the sc2 leagues going on or even proleague.
The assumptions he make have no evidence and I think this is very poorly written.
12 posts and already being rude to TL writers? yeesh...
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On April 30 2013 09:36 TwentyOneJ wrote:
To be honest I think the writer has no knowledge of the players. Why is shine going to lose 0-4? I am not a shine fan or anything but the writer just seem to not know anything about the sc2 leagues going on or even proleague.
The assumptions he make have no evidence and I think this is very poorly written.
I really really REALLY hope your joking.
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shine is 3-9 in proleague
sOs is 18-8
The article was great. I have no clue what you're talking about with "no evidence" because its clearly there.
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C'mon Bomber!!! You got this!
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BulletCl I think in case of doubt, always go with the GOMTV calendar, they ARE the ones organizing it ^^
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sOs is 22-12, not 18-8
Both are impressive as though LOL
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gogo sOs, fight for the stars!
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On April 30 2013 08:56 GuitarBizarre wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 08:42 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Bah, Bomber is overrated. The only reason he keeps on "disappointing" is people keep overrating him. Don't get me wrong, he's good, and lately he's looking stronger than ever, but he's not, say, a potential code S champion.
Taeja and Bomber are very close in skill, but I think Taeja gets out of the group over him for one reason: his higher seeding has him opening against his choice opponent in Samsung's Shine, whereas Bomber has to start against one of the toughest opponents in the world ATM. If their positions were switched I'd say sOs & Bomber but the brackets mean I think you have to favour Taeja by a tiny margin.
Although there's a very good chance Taeja and Bomber battle it out in the final match for the second spot in the group, which is a very close match to call. When they met in last season's ro16, Taeja completely outclassed him, but in their most recent meeting at MLG, Bomber destroyed Taeja 3-0. I think there might be some mitigating factors, Taeja had lack of HotS practice due to his deep run in code S + proleague + injuries limiting practice, but still. Very close to call b/w these two. I'm going with sOs & Taeja. Bomber is both under and over rated depending on who you talk to and their perspective on what "good" is and how to measure it. Its mostly down to his playstyle - He plays Terran like a sledgehammer, winding back and back and back, on the verge of losing his balance and toppling over, only to then launch forward at the perfect moment and bludgeon the opponent with unstoppable force. All of the power in it relies on whether the opponent can send him off balance before the second phase of his gameplan. On the other hand, he's really, really fucking good at making this work, and a lesser player than Bomber simply CAN'T make it work. Or at least, thats how I see it.
Definitely Bomber has an exciting playstyle and I'm personally hoping to see him advance but...we'll see. The hype train around Bomber has definitely died down a lot, but it's still rolling.
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On April 30 2013 08:25 Fionn wrote:More Line than Sniper. Sniper was very good, but boring and beat a lot of favorites. Shine just is mega aggressive and tries to beat people with one big attack.
Line is actually fun to watch.
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I could see any of Taeja/SoS/Bomber advancing. I am hoping for SoS because we need protoss in the Ro8. I think Taeja will be able to edge out bomber in TvT if it comes down to that in the winners match.
I have largely given up supporting Bomber but still always watch him just in case he shows up with his A-game (on these days he can beat anyone in the world). His macro never fails to impress. I do feel like he often tries to just win straight up with a big ball of units most of the time, I think if he worked some multi-pronged harass into some of his games things would work out a lot better for him, but he obviously dedicates more of his APM to perfect macro, rather than fancy multi-tasking.
I put Taeja/Bomber for my Liquibet (figured I would get at least 1/2 this way  ) but going to predict Taeja/SoS
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On April 30 2013 11:08 catplanetcatplanet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 08:25 Fionn wrote:On April 30 2013 08:24 asdfOu wrote:
shine the new sniper? More Line than Sniper. Sniper was very good, but boring and beat a lot of favorites. Shine just is mega aggressive and tries to beat people with one big attack. Line is actually fun to watch.
Shine is actually fun to watch 
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if he's kicking a player you don't like :D
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I belieeeeeeeve in Taeja!
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Shine is going to royal road this tournament. You heard it here first.
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On April 30 2013 12:12 Zealgoon wrote:
Shine is going to royal road this tournament. You heard it here first.
Lol I would love to see this happend, and to see increasingly creative cheeses (with proxy hatches, ninja expands, burrowed roaches rushs, vipers rush,...)
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On April 30 2013 08:19 alQahira wrote:
Is there a list of most consistent code S players somewhere? Has anyone else done 5 straight Ro 16s? I wonder what the record is?
Marineking had the longest active streak of Ro16s before this season at 6 (only player to make all 5 in 2012 + s1 2013). Not sure who has the longest all time
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