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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 10 2012 05:22 GMT
#161
On October 10 2012 14:20 Entirety wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 12:46 Soft`Soap wrote:
On October 10 2012 10:54 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 10 2012 10:06 Soft`Soap wrote:
On October 10 2012 09:13 RobberFrog wrote:
The massive hype around Rain has started to bug me. He's definitely really really good, but not unparalleled. Squirtle and Symbol had similar runs earlier this year, and Life is busy doing the same on the other side of the bracket.


But By.Sun has only been fully dedicated to SC2 for a month. His last BW game was in September 9th, and you can't argue that he wasn't practising BW because he won his last 5 BW games.

The massive hype is definitely well deserved, By.Sun is a beast and I hope he becomes a double RR.



They've been doing 80% SC2 / 20% BW for months, so the excuse you're providing is flimsy at best.


I wasn't giving an excuse, I was only pointing out that By.Sun's hype is well deserved as his skill has grown exponentially since he picked up the game a few months ago
How long have MVP, squirtle, symbol, and life been around?
How long did it take for MVP to win a championship?
How long did squirtle, symbol, and life play before they became the powerhouses that we know today?
Sure, squirtle had some pretty stellar GSTL performances early on but it took him a long time to win enough games to get to code S



Honestly, Mvp won his championship astonishingly fast. He sort of took the scene by storm, suddenly reaching #1 on ladder by far and demolishing everyone in GSL January.

Now imagine that same Mvp, with nearly 2 years of experience on the finals stage, in every game scenario imaginable (except PvZ, ZvZ, and PvP, though he does offrace a lot...)

Now imagine your poor little Kespa player. Scared for Rain yet? You should be, because a certain GSL champion is going to have a second (or fifth!) helping! Go Mvp, you can do it!


Not scared at all. Lol.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
lailaiwd
Profile Joined October 2012
United States65 Posts
October 10 2012 05:30 GMT
#162
If Mvp is in his best condition, every pro can retire already. He makes not a single mistake in his best games, and when he does, it's only to capitalize on other advantages. It's amusing how people have so much confidence in Rain, who has not proved ANYthing yet beyond round of 8 in GSL and OSL. Mvp my hero forever.
In Mvp I trust.
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
October 10 2012 05:47 GMT
#163
Despite his stellar record, I find that MVP is often presented as an underdog in the later stages of tournaments.. This is why even with a record 5th GSL victory, completely leaving other title holders in the dust, he'll never be recognized as a bonjwa, not without huge resistance from the community anyway.

I'm reluctant to jump on this bandwagon, so I'll stick with what's been tried and true. MVP 3-2!
czaku
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland429 Posts
October 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#164
Rain is a saiyan, when he is close to death and survives that, he gets 2x power! Rain unstoppable.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 10 2012 06:02 GMT
#165
On October 10 2012 14:20 Entirety wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 12:46 Soft`Soap wrote:
On October 10 2012 10:54 ch33psh33p wrote:
On October 10 2012 10:06 Soft`Soap wrote:
On October 10 2012 09:13 RobberFrog wrote:
The massive hype around Rain has started to bug me. He's definitely really really good, but not unparalleled. Squirtle and Symbol had similar runs earlier this year, and Life is busy doing the same on the other side of the bracket.


But By.Sun has only been fully dedicated to SC2 for a month. His last BW game was in September 9th, and you can't argue that he wasn't practising BW because he won his last 5 BW games.

The massive hype is definitely well deserved, By.Sun is a beast and I hope he becomes a double RR.



They've been doing 80% SC2 / 20% BW for months, so the excuse you're providing is flimsy at best.


I wasn't giving an excuse, I was only pointing out that By.Sun's hype is well deserved as his skill has grown exponentially since he picked up the game a few months ago
How long have MVP, squirtle, symbol, and life been around?
How long did it take for MVP to win a championship?
How long did squirtle, symbol, and life play before they became the powerhouses that we know today?
Sure, squirtle had some pretty stellar GSTL performances early on but it took him a long time to win enough games to get to code S



Honestly, Mvp won his championship astonishingly fast. He sort of took the scene by storm, suddenly reaching #1 on ladder by far and demolishing everyone in GSL January.

Now imagine that same Mvp, with nearly 2 years of experience on the finals stage, in every game scenario imaginable (except PvZ, ZvZ, and PvP, though he does offrace a lot...)

Now imagine your poor little Kespa player. Scared for Rain yet? You should be, because a certain GSL champion is going to have a second (or fifth!) helping! Go Mvp, you can do it!


GSL January was actually MVP's 3rd GSL. He was a novice in Open Season 2 and lost early in the Ro32 to Zenio. By Open Season 3 he was #1 on ladder and was the hipster darkhorse but he got cheesed out by Choya. Even if Rain doesn't win this season he's still ahead of MVP's pace.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
October 10 2012 06:12 GMT
#166
I'm just gonna root for Taeja so the finals aren't a boring 4-0 for Rain.
The heart's eternal vow
Tauscond
Profile Joined December 2011
United States181 Posts
October 10 2012 06:13 GMT
#167
On October 10 2012 14:47 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Despite his stellar record, I find that MVP is often presented as an underdog in the later stages of tournaments.. This is why even with a record 5th GSL victory, completely leaving other title holders in the dust, he'll never be recognized as a bonjwa, not without huge resistance from the community anyway.

I'm reluctant to jump on this bandwagon, so I'll stick with what's been tried and true. MVP 3-2!

Always underdog. Are you idiot? He has been consider underdog this year just because he has an injury. But despite the injury, he still keep wining. That shows how great he is.
We don't give a damn shit about the "bonjwa" word. We just know he is the greatest SC2 player.
Mvp, Mvp, Mvp, Mvp, MMA, MKP
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 06:28:51
October 10 2012 06:23 GMT
#168
When Mvp falls, it shall be glorious day.

EDIT: Just kidding of course. Just that so many Mvp fans taking things so seriously and personally.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
October 10 2012 06:27 GMT
#169
MVP 3-0

eZ PZ LEMON CHEESY
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
October 10 2012 06:29 GMT
#170
On October 10 2012 15:13 Tauscond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 14:47 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Despite his stellar record, I find that MVP is often presented as an underdog in the later stages of tournaments.. This is why even with a record 5th GSL victory, completely leaving other title holders in the dust, he'll never be recognized as a bonjwa, not without huge resistance from the community anyway.

I'm reluctant to jump on this bandwagon, so I'll stick with what's been tried and true. MVP 3-2!

Always underdog. Are you idiot? He has been consider underdog this year just because he has an injury. But despite the injury, he still keep wining. That shows how great he is.
We don't give a damn shit about the "bonjwa" word. We just know he is the greatest SC2 player.



Read my post carefully. Judging from your sig I can understand why you would leap at my throat when you see underdog and MVP in the same sentence. I'm not calling MVP the underdog, I think he's the slight favorite. And despite being the greatest SC2 player, too often gets the shaft in predictions.
sudosu
Profile Joined October 2011
France120 Posts
October 10 2012 06:34 GMT
#171
Strengths
– Is Mvp.


I think it says it all.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 10 2012 06:34 GMT
#172
On October 10 2012 15:29 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 15:13 Tauscond wrote:
On October 10 2012 14:47 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Despite his stellar record, I find that MVP is often presented as an underdog in the later stages of tournaments.. This is why even with a record 5th GSL victory, completely leaving other title holders in the dust, he'll never be recognized as a bonjwa, not without huge resistance from the community anyway.

I'm reluctant to jump on this bandwagon, so I'll stick with what's been tried and true. MVP 3-2!

Always underdog. Are you idiot? He has been consider underdog this year just because he has an injury. But despite the injury, he still keep wining. That shows how great he is.
We don't give a damn shit about the "bonjwa" word. We just know he is the greatest SC2 player.



Read my post carefully. Judging from your sig I can understand why you would leap at my throat when you see underdog and MVP in the same sentence. I'm not calling MVP the underdog, I think he's the slight favorite. And despite being the greatest SC2 player, too often gets the shaft in predictions.


Same thoughts here. Mvp fans, chill out. You guys are so defensive.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
ultratorr
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada332 Posts
October 10 2012 06:35 GMT
#173
I'm gonna have to go with Rain. He just looks too damn solid, especially his PvT. But then again, Mvp always wins despite my never betting on him.
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
October 10 2012 06:46 GMT
#174
MVP's weakest match up is TvP, but whenever he goes up against favorite Protosses he manages to pull off upsets.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
Rhu
Profile Joined September 2011
8 Posts
October 10 2012 06:47 GMT
#175
MVP 5 times
Raid
Profile Joined September 2010
United States398 Posts
October 10 2012 06:50 GMT
#176
I hope mvp wins then gets his surgery and gets metal injected in him like Flash and become a second God.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 10 2012 06:52 GMT
#177
Going with 3-1 Rain and 3-2 Life. I believe
Thorn Raven
Profile Joined November 2010
United States126 Posts
October 10 2012 06:56 GMT
#178
Mvp! Mvp! Mvp! Mvp! Mvp! Mvp! Mvp!

The matches tonight are going to be electric.
Thorn Raven
Profile Joined November 2010
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 07:02:41
October 10 2012 07:01 GMT
#179
On October 10 2012 15:34 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 15:29 thepuppyassassin wrote:
On October 10 2012 15:13 Tauscond wrote:
On October 10 2012 14:47 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Despite his stellar record, I find that MVP is often presented as an underdog in the later stages of tournaments.. This is why even with a record 5th GSL victory, completely leaving other title holders in the dust, he'll never be recognized as a bonjwa, not without huge resistance from the community anyway.

I'm reluctant to jump on this bandwagon, so I'll stick with what's been tried and true. MVP 3-2!

Always underdog. Are you idiot? He has been consider underdog this year just because he has an injury. But despite the injury, he still keep wining. That shows how great he is.
We don't give a damn shit about the "bonjwa" word. We just know he is the greatest SC2 player.



Read my post carefully. Judging from your sig I can understand why you would leap at my throat when you see underdog and MVP in the same sentence. I'm not calling MVP the underdog, I think he's the slight favorite. And despite being the greatest SC2 player, too often gets the shaft in predictions.


Same thoughts here. Mvp fans, chill out. You guys are so defensive.


Hey! Don't generalize! XD
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
October 10 2012 07:03 GMT
#180
Move RAIN, get out the way.
get out the way RAIN get out the way.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
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