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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 03:53:51
September 12 2012 03:52 GMT
#21
On September 12 2012 12:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 12:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Life has sick ZvZ sure, but it's somewhat inflated by online tournaments against lesser Zergs.


So is Nestea's.


Should have bolded the part about it being in online tournaments as well (the more relevant piece).

Nestea has maintained a high winrate in ZvZ all offline for a far longer period of time in the gsl booth which is where they'll be playing today. Experience could play a significant factor.
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Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 12 2012 03:53 GMT
#22
Nestea can NOT fall out of code S. I believe in him

Nestea v Life
SuperNova v JYP
SuperNova v Life
Nestea v JYP
Nestea v SuperNova

if Life and Nestea go to code A then I won't have anyone left to cheer for but DRG
Life: The New Champion!!
hnim
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
September 12 2012 04:05 GMT
#23
A 200 pound gorilla sounds like a pretty lightweight gorilla.
Mvp fanboy
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 04:11:36
September 12 2012 04:08 GMT
#24
On September 12 2012 12:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 12:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 12 2012 12:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Life has sick ZvZ sure, but it's somewhat inflated by online tournaments against lesser Zergs.


So is Nestea's.


Should have bolded the part about it being in online tournaments as well (the more relevant piece).

Nestea has maintained a high winrate in ZvZ all offline for a far longer period of time in the gsl booth which is where they'll be playing today. Experience could play a significant factor.


True. However the majority of Nestea's competition was less than impressive, similar to Life. It's the same thing for every player that has an abnormally high winrate in the mirror matchup.

As for experience, we can't really tell if it's going to be a factor. Life is not exactly suffering from the newbie jitters. His loss to Leenock was only due to a big head.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 12 2012 04:10 GMT
#25
On September 12 2012 13:05 hnim wrote:
A 200 pound gorilla sounds like a pretty lightweight gorilla.


The actual phrase should have been 800. So sad.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
September 12 2012 04:17 GMT
#26
On September 12 2012 13:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 12:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On September 12 2012 12:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 12 2012 12:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Life has sick ZvZ sure, but it's somewhat inflated by online tournaments against lesser Zergs.


So is Nestea's.


Should have bolded the part about it being in online tournaments as well (the more relevant piece).

Nestea has maintained a high winrate in ZvZ all offline for a far longer period of time in the gsl booth which is where they'll be playing today. Experience could play a significant factor.


True. However the majority of Nestea's competition was less than impressive, similar to Life. It's the same thing for every player that has an abnormally high winrate in the mirror matchup.

As for experience, we can't really tell if it's going to be a factor. Life is not exactly suffering from the newbie jitters. His loss to Leenock was only due to a big head.


Not really. It's not impressive now because all those players have fallen off. But at the time he was beating the other top ZvZers in the world. The Nestea vs Losira finals was a match between the 1st and 2nd best Zergs at the time. Life is facing obscure players in online events to boost his win-rate.
Kraidio
Profile Joined May 2011
China133 Posts
September 12 2012 04:19 GMT
#27
Damn it, if only Suhoshin hadn't died in round 1. It would be a dream ro16 group to have Supernova and Nestea against Heart and him. The most consistent for T/Z vs their cheesy counterparts. It would be the most enjoyable games possible between them.

And make sure it's Suhoshin vs Heart at some point - the amount of cheese would feed SC2 for a life time.
A man does what he must — in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers, and pressures — and that is the basis of all human morality.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 04:53:53
September 12 2012 04:27 GMT
#28
On September 12 2012 13:17 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 13:08 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 12 2012 12:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On September 12 2012 12:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On September 12 2012 12:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Life has sick ZvZ sure, but it's somewhat inflated by online tournaments against lesser Zergs.


So is Nestea's.


Should have bolded the part about it being in online tournaments as well (the more relevant piece).

Nestea has maintained a high winrate in ZvZ all offline for a far longer period of time in the gsl booth which is where they'll be playing today. Experience could play a significant factor.


True. However the majority of Nestea's competition was less than impressive, similar to Life. It's the same thing for every player that has an abnormally high winrate in the mirror matchup.

As for experience, we can't really tell if it's going to be a factor. Life is not exactly suffering from the newbie jitters. His loss to Leenock was only due to a big head.


Not really. It's not impressive now because all those players have fallen off. But at the time he was beating the other top ZvZers in the world. The Nestea vs Losira finals was a match between the 1st and 2nd best Zergs at the time. Life is facing obscure players in online events to boost his win-rate.


With the exception of Losira, BBoongBBoong, and Zenio (who relied more on mindgames than strategy to win in the early days) most of those players were always mediocre in ZvZ. In fact most zerg players in Korea were mediocre in ZvZ in the early days. Don't even try to pretend otherwise for Cezanne, Coca, July, and baby Leenock. The best ZvZ competition Nestea ever faced was in his later international games: Nerchio, Stephano, Symbol, and Violet. He played very well against them with the exception of Symbol.

The "he played unknown players" card is begging the question. The popularity of opponents is irrelevant to their skill, and many of Life's opponents are good to great at the mirror matchup. Life's record is more impressive since he played way more games against unknown opponents without preparation, which is where the "randomness" of ZvZ is supposed to kick in. He is also close to undefeated in Bo1 ZvZ sets in team leagues, which is more than Nestea can ever claim.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
PittlerGG
Profile Joined June 2012
22 Posts
September 12 2012 04:31 GMT
#29
This is the least surprising thing I've read in my life.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 12 2012 04:48 GMT
#30
Omg Supernova, get the Nestea award! I will be so proud O.O
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
September 12 2012 04:49 GMT
#31
Oh,boy that escalated quickly.Well didn't put much hope in them at first place so not suprised.
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Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
September 12 2012 05:01 GMT
#32
Go SuperNova!!!
iGX
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 05:03:51
September 12 2012 05:02 GMT
#33

[*]Between 03.31.12 and 16.12.12, Life went 25-1 in ZvZ.


writers at TL can see into the future LOL

did you mean June 12th?

nevertheless it was a good read
When your bases are ashes...then you have my permission to "GG".
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 12 2012 05:07 GMT
#34
On September 12 2012 14:02 iGX wrote:
Show nested quote +

[*]Between 03.31.12 and 16.12.12, Life went 25-1 in ZvZ.


writers at TL can see into the future LOL

did you mean June 12th?

nevertheless it was a good read


I may have...

Was going to be all slick and present the date in nice American format.

Then fell over myself and goofed it. =/
deroth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States83 Posts
September 12 2012 05:13 GMT
#35
Actually even though Nestea has been pretty unimpressive lately I'm gona go and say he and Supernova will advance.. Nestea is still a pretty damn smart player, even though his mechanics and multi-tasking have been non-existent as of late.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 12 2012 05:18 GMT
#36
Looking forward to everyone but nestea's games today unless he proves me wrong and shows us the old nestea, I for one would love to see nestea back in form stomping some nerds.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
September 12 2012 05:18 GMT
#37
My brain says Supernova/Life.

My heart says Nestea/Supernova

cheering for the veterans tonight.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Regime
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia185 Posts
September 12 2012 05:28 GMT
#38
i really didnt enjoy hearts games although they were well constructed timing attacks i think it just took the others sum wat by surprise and squirtle is just a baus so he was always going to win. i enjoyed the fun facts tho cant wait for nestea vs life, and hopefully nestea vs supernova for the nestea award :D
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 12 2012 05:55 GMT
#39
if JYP beats supernova, 1st JYP 2nd life, if JYP loses (more likely scenario), 1st Life 2nd supernova
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
arbus
Profile Joined September 2012
10 Posts
September 12 2012 06:16 GMT
#40
i hope naniwa stops playing in gsl from now on and focuses on foreign tournaments. I think overall he wasted his time, stephano was always right not playing their and focusing on foreign tournaments and actually winning them.
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