EPTvZ: 60-34 (63.83%) in TLPD international
vZ: 44-27 (61.97%) in TLPD korea
[GSTL] Round One - Day 7 Recap/Day 8 Preview - Page 3
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Die4Ever
United States17721 Posts
vZ: 60-34 (63.83%) in TLPD international vZ: 44-27 (61.97%) in TLPD korea | ||
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
Perhaps IMMvP should stick with what won him his last code S tournament - 2 rax cheesy all ins. It's the only thing terrans can and should to do reverse the current trend of the metagame. Then again, what are marines going to do to the 4 queen build? The 4 queen gasless build used to be punished quite well with hellion run bys unless the zerg out microed the attacking hellions. Now they (i'm kind of laughing in frustration) just a-move with 4 queens and don't even TOUCH the drones that are mining. Why would you? You'll only line them up! It's the perfect, easiest defense that requires no positioning or micro whatsoever!! | ||
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
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elwoodng
Singapore438 Posts
On June 06 2012 13:36 OPL3SA2 wrote: I was upset that MVP won the last code S finals. I can assure you that Protosses are just as upset. :p | ||
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OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On June 06 2012 13:23 OPL3SA2 wrote: In the past 17 GSTL games, the only player to win has been a zerg. If a zerg has lost, it has been to another zerg. Say what you want about the reactored hellion build that has been effectively removed from sensical build orders, it at least gave zerg something to think about in regards to positioning and defense. Most of the zergs I play on the ladder (I am a 1200 point rank 1 masters) do not even bother to get zerglings in the beginning of the game, opting instead for standard 4 queens and maybe 1 spine crawler. You can't stop overlords from getting into key positions early game (cloud kingdom and korhal compound for example) and without even drone scouting, they can see you are going for a macro game. Even when I build a bunker and put 2 marines in it, they don't even make zerglings. It's pretty ridiculous to see how the queen buff and overlord speed buff have changed the game. I didn't think it would be that big of a deal at first, but the metagame is proving me wrong. The combination of the additional defense queens provide and the ease of which they can scout your builds makes even average zerg players seem incredibly difficult to beat. I think the 50 energy queen would of been fine but terrans were bitching to much ( looking at ou kawaii ) 50 energy would allow Terrans to use hellions still | ||
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:12 ShakAttaK wrote: I think the 50 energy queen would of been fine but terrans were bitching to much ( looking at ou kawaii ) 50 energy would allow Terrans to use hellions still You're right. Initially I thought the 50 queen energy was too much. In reality, blizzard decided that was too little and buffed queen's attack range so acutely that probes and scvs can't even get by one to scout. I mean seriously, queens stop scouting probes better than marines which have to studder step in the correct direction to deny a scout. With a queen's new range, they can kill scouting probes even if they are idle. It's ridiculous compared to how I initially thought it would turn out | ||
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
Hope IM gets through for a rematch! And great write up btw! | ||
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OPL3SA2
United States378 Posts
On June 06 2012 14:00 elwoodng wrote: And I was so happy that I get to see MC in the GSTL. But turns out that he might not even get the chance to play this season. D: I can assure you that Protosses are just as upset. :p They were probably jumping with joy. They gained additional empirical evidence to avoid the nerf hammer for yet another ladder season | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17721 Posts
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partysnatcher
156 Posts
I think 5-3 is a good bet. Moon will be put on later this time (3rd?), and I think he will not win his, unfortunately. *crossing my fingers that I'm wrong* | ||
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Yngvi
Netherlands70 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On June 06 2012 16:22 partysnatcher wrote: GSTL is a dark horse game, where people play their ladder builds and not their tourney builds, and everything is in general pretty unpredictable. I don't think you can expect players like Moon to have similar runs again here, unfortunately. In the same vein, I think Oz will do better. I think 5-3 is a good bet. Moon will be put on later this time (3rd?), and I think he will not win his, unfortunately. *crossing my fingers that I'm wrong* Is Moon the WC3 player? | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On June 06 2012 11:35 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: WOW HOLY SHIT that is fucking amazing! i forgot it's bo9, so this is even harder than back when it was bo7! also, wow losira o.o hes good again? xD nice to see I guess sad that nestea lost, but nestea is like the only IM player i like pretty sure IM can beat fnatic though... but who knows maybe they'll lose ;O edit: wow, i forgot that LG IM has MC as well xD though I guess his pvz isn't so good and he doesn't dominate like he did back then IM has strong individual players (MVP and nestea) but as a team they seem to do pretty bad in GSTLs, at least when you take into account how strong MVP and Nestea are ;O MC isnt playing, but just so you know he has the best PvZ in the world, hands down. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
Yes, used to play both WC3 and SC2 last year, now he's fully switched to SC2. | ||
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MrJoKer
France232 Posts
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SEA KarMa
Australia452 Posts
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phame21
Australia43 Posts
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