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[GSL] Code A Season One - Week One Quick Look

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January 30th, 2012 22:48 GMT
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Code A, Week One Preview


By: Fionn and Waxangel

TeamLiquid's day by day GSL coverage resumes! First, a quick look at tonight's games.

(T)oGsfin vs (P)cOrePrime


ForGG's quest for redemption begins with a fairly easy test. We last saw cOre in the GSL one year ago in Code A January, where he dropped out 0-2 against Vanvanth. To qualify for this GSL, he went through the virtually unknown NSH_Fairy and run of the mill Code B player ZeNEXMushroom, not the most challenging opponents.

Even though ForGG has been massively disappointing by any measure – whether it be the enormous amount of hype given by Brood War fans or his own declaration that he would win Code S – he is still a formidable player. He made his Code A opponents look absolutely out-classed in the previous GSL, and did very well against the crème de la crème of Code S in his stacked RO32 group including Leenock, MC, and Supernova. At the very least, ForGG is a Code S class player, and cOre is unlikely to get in the way of his return.

Prediction: ForGG 2 - 0 Core


(Z)ST_July vs (T)ZeNEXJjun


Through merit or necessity, Jjun has earned a place on ZeNEX's starting line up as their main Terran player. Unfortunately, he has not been very successful thus far. Like many of his ZeNEX teammates, we want to infer that his presence on a Korean pro-gaming team means something – but whatever it is, it probably doesn't suggest he has the ability to make it to Code S.

As for July, he's akin to fellow Golden Mouse winner oGsNada, in that he seems content to chill in the GSL while reminding people about a certain Elephant. Although July dropped out of Code S last season, it was only by narrowest of margins as JYP advanced past him due to a head to head tie-break rule. Though Code A will be tougher come the later rounds, the first match should be a cake walk for the God of War.

Prediction: July 2 - 1 Jjun

(Z)IMLosirA vs (T)oGsTheStC


As a result of so many good players competing in Code A, a clash between two seemingly sure-fire Code S players is an unfortunate side effect. In the case of TheStC, it's doubly unfortunate as he faces a top class Zerg oppponent in the first round for the second tournament in a row. A former Code A winner (Curious), followed by a Code S finalist (Losira)? That's just life in the new GSL.

Statistically, it's a battle of worst match-up versus worst match-up (TheStC 56% vs Zerg, Losira 46% vs Terran), although I would like to say the stats are a bit misleading. In the last few months, TheStC hasn't really lost to anyone in TvZ in various online cups (where he spends most of his time as he contemplates why he can't get his Code S break). He lost 2 – 4 to Leenock, but every Terran who's name isn't MMA loses to Leenock as well, so all I can really say is he's outside the top 0.07th percentile of Terran players. As for Losira, his relatively poor record also stems from losses earlier in his career, while he has a pretty good ZvT record since November (11 – 5).

It's an even battle on paper, but I'll give the benefit of doubt to Losira. TheStC looked alright in last week's GSTL games, but he's going to have to live with the GSL choker tag until he proves it wrong at least once. Losira's been on a variety of big stages, and he's performed very well under all sorts of pressure.

Prediction: Losira 2 - 1 TheStC


(Z)MVP_Sniper vs (T)SlayerS_Clide


The temptation is great to throw Clide under the bus once and for all, and say that the new GSL system has finally worked out and that mediocre players such as Clide have been weeded out of Code S for good. However, each time people have given up and Clide and declared that his long stay in Code S was only because he was lucky, he has always found a way to surge back and prove all those haters wrong.

Now that he's faced with elimination from Code A, I'm getting those vibes again. Yeah, he played bad in his Up-Down groups. Yeah, he played bad in GSTL. But good lord, SlayerS decided to play him instead of Ryung, Taeja, Ganzi, or Boxer - all players that we think are better than him? Not to mention the fact that they picked him up at all, considering their already deep Terran line. The only way I can explain it is to presume that Clide must be a god in practice. He's doing something behind the scenes that we're not seeing, and he just occasionally lets it shine through in GSL games as well. Sure, you can bet that this hidden Clide won't show up on the day of the games, but if he does...

In any case, it's hard to believe he'll lose to Sniper, whose most notable achievement so far has been to remind us of why we'd rather see Sase play PvT, not PvZ. Even with such an unpredictable veteran like Clide playing, it's hard not to take him over a player we've barely seen, and has been in disappointing in those appearances.

Prediction: Clide 2 - 1 Sniper


(P)EGHuK vs. (Z)TeriousPrime


Wow, it's been a long time since we've seen Huk. For the first time in what seems like forever, Huk hasn't been flying to a new city every weekend, playing in a new tournament and then having to make a jet lagged trip back to Korea to participate in the GSL. Some might think that the lack of tournaments lately for Huk might be a bad thing, giving off a rust effect in his all important first round Code A match, but I'm positive about his chances to get past the first round.

Even though he's had a long break, can you really say a little rust is so much worse than his previous schedule where he spent half of his time in airports and airplanes? Let's say this fresh, non-exhausted HuK practiced for half a week before this match. That would be the best conditions he's had going into a GSL match since summer of 2011.

Looking at his opponent, Terious is no slouch, definitely showing the potential of a player who could be one of the best Zerg prospects we've seen come through Code A in quite a while. The only problem for Terious is that he has shown nerves in the booth before, and if he wants to get past Huk, he will need to put those fears behind him and play his best games.

In the end, Huk should be the favorite. It was not too long ago that Huk was considered one of, if not the best, Protoss in the world, had gotten to the quarterfinals of a Code S and won MLG Orlando over MC. With the rest that he has gotten over the past month, he should be ready to take on the Zerg from Prime and give a good show for his fans in his 2012 season opener.

Prediction: Huk 2 - 1 Terious


(Z)EGIdrA vs. (P)ZeNEXAvenge


From recent interviews, Idra continues to take the stance that Zerg cannot beat Protoss. Luckily(?) for him, he gets to prove this theory correct against ZeNex's Avenge in a match to see who will live on in the GSL. This match has huge importance for Idra, who was given a sponsored seed into Code S and was quickly bounced, ending up 4th in his group after losing to Nestea and Lucky. If he loses here, he will be out of the GSL entirely and have to qualify the hard way to get back in.

Not only did Idra say that Protoss cannot lose to Zerg, but he also commented that his opponent Avenge is nothing special. After his performance against Vines and TheStC in team league, Avenge didn't look like a world beater by any means, but he will be no pushover for Idra. A lot of people are looking forward to Huk and Idra destroying their Korean counterparts in the first round and meeting in the second round in an epic clash of former rivals turned teammates, but if Idra isn't confident in his ZvP, Avenge isn't the type of player that can be looked down upon.

Prediction: Avenge 2 - 1 Idra


(Z)Sen vs. (Z)True


Sen, like his sponsored seed partner Idra, didn't have a good run in Code S. He landed in 4th while being unable to take a game against either Jjakji or Boxer. He had Boxer on the ropes on different occasions, but Sen would fall apart in the late game and not be able to find the right composition of units to end the game with. It always feels like that Sen can get into a good position in the mid game against tough Korean opponents, but when it edges toward the end, Sen ends up committing some fatal error. Whether it's investing too much into Brood Lords at the cost of supporting troops, or losing his infestors due to a misclick, there's always some way for his well laid plans to fall apart.

Even with that, you cannot say Sen isn't a very good player. He has the talent to beat people in Code A and even a few of the stragglers in Code S. I don't believe, at the moment, that he could be a force in the main league, but his ZvZ is top notch. IMTrue isn't the same as facing Nestea or even Losira. True is a ladder warrior, almost always showing up on other popular progamer streams in Korea, and from what I've seen, he's really good part of the time, but can also fall apart in the late game as well.

This should be a close game between two players trying to prove they belong in the GSL, but I have to give it to Sen in this one. He will be extra focused after falling out of Code S in embarrassing fashion, and he will be allowed to play his best match-up. Seeing as this is True's first time in GSL singles competition, the nerves could be a factor as well.

Prediction: Sen 2 - 1 True


(P)IMSeed vs. (Z)MVP_Monster


A year ago, in the first ever GSTL, Tasteless fell in love with a Protoss player. Tasteless believed that this Protoss player would go onto to do great things. He would follow in the footsteps of his teammates MVP and Nestea, becoming the power house Protoss that Incredible Miracle needed to become an unstoppable force. With such an impressive showing in the team league, this player looked like he had an amazingly bright future.

Now, almost on the anniversary of his first appearance in the GOM Studios, Seed has arrived and he is ready to unleash a year's worth of pent up aggression on every nerd's ass in Code A. It took him a long time to finally get into Code A, but now that he is here, we will finally see if the Protoss that Tasteless (not Artosis) hyped can become the real deal against Monster from MVP.

Both players have great practice partners to work with. Seed obviously has Losira and Nestea while Monster can work with Genius from his squad. Monster's a good player, but the real player to watch out for in this series is Seed. How good is he? A year ago during GSTL, he was an absolute beast, but since then he hasn't appeared much in the team leagues and hasn't been able to qualify for Code A until now.

The seeds have been planted and it's now time to see if either a beautiful Protoss flower will emerge, or another over-hyped Protoss disappointment.

Prediction: Seed 2 - 0 Monster
















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Writers: Fionn and Waxangel.
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infinitum
Profile Joined April 2011
United States83 Posts
January 30 2012 22:50 GMT
#2
I hope you're right in your optimism about foreigners beating koreans!
Everything you know was forged from the remnants of a supernova.
Darathor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States327 Posts
January 30 2012 22:50 GMT
#3
Sweet write-up! Can't wait to see the new blood in Code A!
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
January 30 2012 22:51 GMT
#4
Good Write Up I got a feeling though that IdrA can make it through though
Whatever happens, happens
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
January 30 2012 22:52 GMT
#5
Nice write-up!

I hope Huk and ForGG make it out.

And god, STC vs Losira is a Code S match (not really but very good)

I feel bad for whoever drops.

idra will get 0-2, foreigners + code a =
sen will get 1-2
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LuckstYle
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany181 Posts
January 30 2012 22:53 GMT
#6
so pumped for idra and huk
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
January 30 2012 22:56 GMT
#7
Hmmm, I think he foreigner predictions are on the optimistic side, but not unreasonable :o
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ItchyLegs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada369 Posts
January 30 2012 22:57 GMT
#8
last time I woke up at 5:15am to watch idra play, he performed horribly.

I don't think I'm going to watch this one.
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 23:06:34
January 30 2012 22:59 GMT
#9
What I love the most about the new GSL format is that you get to see a lot of unfamiliar faces in Code A, so often times you never know what to expect in the Round 1 matchups. I hope that this season we get to see another breakout star much like Startale Parting.

I agree with all the predictions, but I think that TheSTC has what it takes to beat Losira 2-1.
Spread your eggs until they crack!
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
January 30 2012 23:03 GMT
#10
Core vs forgg is gonna be interesting

Core is quite underrated and will be a strong code a player soon imo.

Forgg didn't take a game since he qualify fore code s iirc, including ksl and korean weekly, so he didn't have such a strong showing but pretty sure he performs better when he has time to train

Forgg should still be able to take it though

And wtf losira vs thestc, both deserve to stay in code a. Hope one of them will get an invitation for code a or s.

NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 23:19:29
January 30 2012 23:10 GMT
#11
I quite agree with the predictions, especially IdrA, it's weird how people thought he was gonna advance from his Code S group... talk about foreigner bias -_______-

In fact it isn't even foreigner bias as if HuK got a hard as hell Code S group people wouldn't say that he is definitely going to advance.

Finally the pic on the homepage has changed I don't have to cum myself everytime I see Jaedong's sexy face!

Seriously though my Dad kept asking why I was looking at a picture of him...
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
January 30 2012 23:10 GMT
#12
Nice writeup though i think IdrA ca 2-1 his oponent if he finally starts to play rather then whine! gogo IdrA you can do it!
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Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 30 2012 23:13 GMT
#13
Pretty good predics...I do have a feeling all the foreigners might fall though .
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 30 2012 23:14 GMT
#14
Losira - TheStC is like a semi final from code S standarts. TT
Can't believe it's a first round code A
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Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 23:15:40
January 30 2012 23:15 GMT
#15
On January 31 2012 07:56 Waxangel wrote:
Hmmm, I think he foreigner predictions are on the optimistic side, but not unreasonable :o


Optimistic is a clear understatement. I want both Huk and Idra to win but I cant see Idra winning against (any) protoss with his attitude. He is basically down 0-1 from the start when he takes that stance.
Zvenn3n
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Sweden1196 Posts
January 30 2012 23:15 GMT
#16
Will be interesting, I'll see if I can catch any games, as I have a day off tomorrow
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 30 2012 23:20 GMT
#17
Let's see if idra can prove his theory right
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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
January 30 2012 23:24 GMT
#18
Hate to say it but I think it's too early to dismiss (T)IdrA
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 30 2012 23:24 GMT
#19
Yeah! GSL time!
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 30 2012 23:25 GMT
#20
I think Idra will lose 2-0, Huk will win 2-1, and Sen will lose 2-0. Sorry foreigners.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#21
"did very well against Code S"
lost 4-1 (only beating MC in an easy win LOL)
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
January 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#22
Really excited to see how Seed does. From what I've seen of him in the various team leagues he's an absolute beast. Hopefully he can live up to the hype.
Long live the King of Wings
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
January 30 2012 23:40 GMT
#23
True losing to Sen? the True that dismantled Leenock and Line in KSL? I hardly think so...
Nice write up overall
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 30 2012 23:41 GMT
#24
True is really good at ZvZ. I mean really good. Don't see Sen beating him.
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Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
January 30 2012 23:43 GMT
#25
On January 31 2012 08:24 Sprouter wrote:
Hate to say it but I think it's too early to dismiss (T)IdrA


Depends if IdrA has passed #KOBESYSTEM Level 5: Domination

Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
January 30 2012 23:46 GMT
#26
Self-Fulfilling Prophecies Greg Fields. Just remember that.

I agree with most of these hell they even echo my liquibet for the most part.

I've never heard of IMSeed but now with the hype of this thread I'll be watching anxiously to see if he's the real deal.
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Elite__
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada976 Posts
January 31 2012 00:02 GMT
#27
looking forward to seed's matches. i saw him play on the IM stream with hwanni and he was a beast on ladder
Quadratic
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada249 Posts
January 31 2012 00:06 GMT
#28
I think Idra and Huk have very good odds to get past this round. They are both training in the Slayers house so I'm hoping even with the language barrier they can get some good advice from the coaches on the matchups. I'm sure they have scouting reports on those 2 players they are up against.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 31 2012 00:15 GMT
#29
going to be cheering and laughing when core beats ForGG

gogo team prime!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 31 2012 00:17 GMT
#30
As an Idra anti fan (well, not exactly, let's say as a non idra fan), I hope he'll win tomorrow. He has a real shot at it, and a single win is enough to go to the up and downs and to enter the GSL circuit, please do it.
DMKraft
Profile Joined December 2010
476 Posts
January 31 2012 00:35 GMT
#31
Well Idra will either be right* or win.
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 31 2012 00:41 GMT
#32
Don't think Huk or Sen will win
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
January 31 2012 00:46 GMT
#33
wow, almost all of my liquibets were different T_T
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bundo
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada113 Posts
January 31 2012 00:55 GMT
#34
looking forward to see how seed, huk, and idra do! hopefully they all get through
KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
January 31 2012 00:57 GMT
#35
On January 31 2012 07:48 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Even though ForGG has been massively disappointing by any measure – whether it be the enormous amount of hype given by Brood War fans or his own declaration that he would win Code S – he is still a formidable player. He made his Code A opponents look absolutely out-classed in the previous GSL, and did very well against the crème de la crème of Code S in his stacked RO32 group including Leenock, MC, and Supernova. At the very least, ForGG is a Code S class player, and cOre is unlikely to get in the way of his return.

Prediction: ForGG 2 - 0 Core


IMO "massively disappointing by any measure" is a massive overstatement. Two of those players in his groups are GSL champions. Supernova is a legit Code-S player too. Just because he's an ex-BW player it's a massive disappointment when he doesn't have a good result in a tournament of the top 32 players?


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FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
January 31 2012 01:04 GMT
#36
On January 31 2012 09:57 KillerDucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 07:48 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Even though ForGG has been massively disappointing by any measure – whether it be the enormous amount of hype given by Brood War fans or his own declaration that he would win Code S – he is still a formidable player. He made his Code A opponents look absolutely out-classed in the previous GSL, and did very well against the crème de la crème of Code S in his stacked RO32 group including Leenock, MC, and Supernova. At the very least, ForGG is a Code S class player, and cOre is unlikely to get in the way of his return.

Prediction: ForGG 2 - 0 Core


IMO "massively disappointing by any measure" is a massive overstatement. Two of those players in his groups are GSL champions. Supernova is a legit Code-S player too. Just because he's an ex-BW player it's a massive disappointment when he doesn't have a good result in a tournament of the top 32 players?




I kind of agree, but with all the hype from the bw enthusiast, it's an accurate statement.
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phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
January 31 2012 01:10 GMT
#37
forGG and Huk will advance, rest of foreigner/favorites will lose. especially idra. he always loses when he goes in with that attitude.
thegiantnome
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States125 Posts
January 31 2012 01:13 GMT
#38
IdrA I <3 you please get back to your code s thrown!!!! I believe in you no matter what anyone says!!!!!
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TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
January 31 2012 01:19 GMT
#39
GOGO IDRA!
You can do it!
I believe!
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
January 31 2012 01:35 GMT
#40
i see huk and idra losing...

sen has some pretty good zvz so i think he can pull through
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
January 31 2012 01:46 GMT
#41
will we see another twoGGs from fourGG? his worst MU TvP
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ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
January 31 2012 01:50 GMT
#42
I hope at least 2 foreigners go thru!
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
January 31 2012 02:08 GMT
#43
the predictions are... well predictable, incredibly so. My only surprise was that you didn't have idra 2-1 over avenge since we always favor foreigners on this website.

a good write up but nothing special
Quadratic
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada249 Posts
January 31 2012 02:15 GMT
#44
I'm thinking July might not make it out of this group. He seems like he's ready to go to the military. Wasn't there a rumor out there that his service window is closing?
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
January 31 2012 02:27 GMT
#45
Huk will make it 2-0 because lolprotoss and IdrA will choke. Calling it now.
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
January 31 2012 02:52 GMT
#46
I wonder when we protoss will finally get our MVP/Nestea? It's been too long since MC smashed nerd faces in, since a protoss made it at least to the GSL finals, since we tasted sweet, sweet Zerg tears.
I sincerely hope Seed can do it, I sincerely do, but I think we'll just see him wilt, despite the fact the Artosis jinx isn't in effect here.
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
January 31 2012 02:54 GMT
#47
On January 31 2012 08:24 Sprouter wrote:
Hate to say it but I think it's too early to dismiss (T)IdrA


i like idra, but if he cant hold onto his "free" code s spot how can he win in code a?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 31 2012 03:08 GMT
#48
On January 31 2012 09:57 KillerDucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 07:48 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Even though ForGG has been massively disappointing by any measure – whether it be the enormous amount of hype given by Brood War fans or his own declaration that he would win Code S – he is still a formidable player. He made his Code A opponents look absolutely out-classed in the previous GSL, and did very well against the crème de la crème of Code S in his stacked RO32 group including Leenock, MC, and Supernova. At the very least, ForGG is a Code S class player, and cOre is unlikely to get in the way of his return.

Prediction: ForGG 2 - 0 Core


IMO "massively disappointing by any measure" is a massive overstatement. Two of those players in his groups are GSL champions. Supernova is a legit Code-S player too. Just because he's an ex-BW player it's a massive disappointment when he doesn't have a good result in a tournament of the top 32 players?



Well, quite a lot of people were trying to call him a top-tier player already and a likely candidate to win the gsl on his first run in code S. He was supposed to be the harbinger of the BW apocalypse that would occur once the more successful BW pros began to switch. So given that hype it's reasonable to be harsh on him for losing, even though it was the group of death. Not only that, but since then ForGG has lost almost every match I've seen him in, especially against protoss.

He's the favorite over Core, but I'm not going to be too surprised if he loses either.
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 31 2012 03:35 GMT
#49
On January 31 2012 11:54 jax1492 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 08:24 Sprouter wrote:
Hate to say it but I think it's too early to dismiss (T)IdrA


i like idra, but if he cant hold onto his "free" code s spot how can he win in code a?

Ya i know right his code s spot with Nestea, Mvp, and lucky was way easier then his code a match :0.......................
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winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
January 31 2012 03:50 GMT
#50
yea
foreigners always win in predictions
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The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
January 31 2012 03:58 GMT
#51
A fairly safe bet is that Idra will win if he wins the first game of the set and lose otherwise. If he and Sen both lose 0-2 does that mean that 2 foreign spots open up? If so I wouldn't be happy about their losses, although I'd be happy to see Nerchio get a shot in Code S and of course I'd love to see Stephano there but he's already nixed the idea. After Nerchio I'd probably like to see Kas get a shot; he's been playing really well. I think any of those players I just named has a better chance of advancing in Code S than either Sen or Idra.
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Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
January 31 2012 04:17 GMT
#52
Sadly, I've lost all faith in IdrA since he's always so eager to blame others instead of himself. Plenty of zergs are beating toss right now, but he refuses.
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Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
January 31 2012 04:55 GMT
#53
On January 31 2012 09:57 KillerDucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 07:48 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Even though ForGG has been massively disappointing by any measure – whether it be the enormous amount of hype given by Brood War fans or his own declaration that he would win Code S – he is still a formidable player. He made his Code A opponents look absolutely out-classed in the previous GSL, and did very well against the crème de la crème of Code S in his stacked RO32 group including Leenock, MC, and Supernova. At the very least, ForGG is a Code S class player, and cOre is unlikely to get in the way of his return.

Prediction: ForGG 2 - 0 Core


IMO "massively disappointing by any measure" is a massive overstatement. Two of those players in his groups are GSL champions. Supernova is a legit Code-S player too. Just because he's an ex-BW player it's a massive disappointment when he doesn't have a good result in a tournament of the top 32 players?

You're correct, but it depends on whether you only look at his GSL results. Over the GSL, KSL, ESV Weekly and FXOpen Invitational, ForGG is now on a 10-game losing streak. He's managed to win 1 game out of his last 15. That's a very disappointing run for any player, let alone someone with the hypementum of ForGG. If it continues for much longer people might have to re-analyze his Code A games to try to figure out why everyone thought he looked so good there.
Cocoba
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada352 Posts
January 31 2012 05:53 GMT
#54
Although IdrA's PvZ is sub-par to the rest of his match ups, I really hope that he makes it through and same with HuK. Not only do we get to see HuK vs IdrA, but two of the world's favorite foreigners will have a chance in the Up and Downs. I just don't want to see them lose, as I think that Code B is probably going to be a hell of a trip to get through for both of them.
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ShuttingFromTheSky
Profile Joined December 2011
Japan199 Posts
January 31 2012 05:57 GMT
#55
Wax so optimistic. Predicting IdrA to go down 1:2 instead of 0:2!
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
January 31 2012 06:19 GMT
#56
On January 31 2012 14:57 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote:
Wax so optimistic. Predicting IdrA to go down 1:2 instead of 0:2!


Trolol.
On a more serious note, I wonder how does the mental status of a player who frequents on TL is affected by the predictions made about him by official posts.
Even if they publicly shrug it off, it must have some kind of psychological impact, especially if they have been a member of this community for many years.
I'm not referring only to Idra and losing, but also Huk and winning. Both can be perceived as having positive and negative affects, depending what light you shine on the subject.
Regardless, predictions should be made as unbiased as possible, it's just something I'm curious about.
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
January 31 2012 06:28 GMT
#57
this gsl season is just awesome! nice writeup!
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
Mellon
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden917 Posts
January 31 2012 06:32 GMT
#58
I'll be happy and surprised if any foreigner advances today... More or less depending on which one it actually is.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
January 31 2012 06:41 GMT
#59
I reckon Huk has the ability and mental fortitude to make it through. Idra may surprise us and I do hope he will, but his mentality towards Protoss still seems shaky at best.

TheSTC vs Losira should be a spectacular series, though. Also it'd be great if fOrGG can turn it on again like he did against Sage.
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dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
January 31 2012 06:56 GMT
#60
On January 31 2012 14:57 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote:
Wax so optimistic. Predicting IdrA to go down 1:2 instead of 0:2!

It's idiots like you that make pro's not wanna post on TL.
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
January 31 2012 07:34 GMT
#61
Sen add oil!!!!
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33339 Posts
January 31 2012 08:24 GMT
#62
On January 31 2012 15:19 MrCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 14:57 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote:
Wax so optimistic. Predicting IdrA to go down 1:2 instead of 0:2!


Trolol.
On a more serious note, I wonder how does the mental status of a player who frequents on TL is affected by the predictions made about him by official posts.
Even if they publicly shrug it off, it must have some kind of psychological impact, especially if they have been a member of this community for many years.
I'm not referring only to Idra and losing, but also Huk and winning. Both can be perceived as having positive and negative affects, depending what light you shine on the subject.
Regardless, predictions should be made as unbiased as possible, it's just something I'm curious about.


don't think any professional athlete in any discipline thinks the media knows shit about their game
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
January 31 2012 09:12 GMT
#63
Funny, I disagree with almost all of them. I think Huk and Idra could and possibly will progress, but the rest I disagree with.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
January 31 2012 09:14 GMT
#64
wait does that those who havnt paid for premium stream will not get to see forgg
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lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
January 31 2012 09:18 GMT
#65
sen's gonna lose 2-0 sry but true has some very impressive z v z
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BetaStarcraft
Profile Joined June 2010
Taiwan32 Posts
January 31 2012 10:11 GMT
#66
On January 31 2012 18:18 lacho_u wrote:
sen's gonna lose 2-0 sry but true has some very impressive z v z


Ops.
Rossen
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark177 Posts
January 31 2012 10:51 GMT
#67
Yea, Im forced to agree with Dubznex ... It would seem that only HuK will advance, Idra and Sen are strong players and Idra has a huge fanbase... but I dont see them getting past the korean powerhouses. Where's HuK, now that his travel induced tilt is over, should have no problem whaitiiiing his way to the Top 4 of this Code A. Gl Hf to all! :D
lnishan
Profile Joined January 2012
Taiwan1 Post
January 31 2012 12:31 GMT
#68
Sen : True = 2 : 1
idra : Avenge = 0 : 2
Huk : Bumblebee = 1 : 2

Sen's Z v Z is truly amazing. (especially the last match)

You guys really underrate him for sure.
Dodogrunt
Profile Joined January 2012
Taiwan2 Posts
January 31 2012 12:49 GMT
#69
Wow, sure brought out all the Taiwanese guys to the surface.
Although I must say that due to nationality I am obligated to laugh hard at those that were predicting Sen's downfall... and then go home and cry because of Huk's loss. Sad day for toss...
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 31 2012 13:41 GMT
#70
On January 31 2012 16:34 rkshox wrote:
Sen add oil!!!!

Quite the literal translation there. Congrats sen!
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Demorase
Profile Joined January 2012
136 Posts
January 31 2012 14:10 GMT
#71
On January 31 2012 15:56 dre2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 14:57 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote:
Wax so optimistic. Predicting IdrA to go down 1:2 instead of 0:2!

It's idiots like you that make pro's not wanna post on TL.



And he was actually right, oops :p
dre2k
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands215 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 14:31:07
January 31 2012 14:30 GMT
#72
On January 31 2012 23:10 Demorase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 15:56 dre2k wrote:
On January 31 2012 14:57 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote:
Wax so optimistic. Predicting IdrA to go down 1:2 instead of 0:2!

It's idiots like you that make pro's not wanna post on TL.



And he was actually right, oops :p

So? it's about the way people talk about pro's putting themself on the line here, not if he actually got the result right. So no, no oops, idiot.
Demorase
Profile Joined January 2012
136 Posts
January 31 2012 14:40 GMT
#73
On January 31 2012 23:30 dre2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:10 Demorase wrote:
On January 31 2012 15:56 dre2k wrote:
On January 31 2012 14:57 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote:
Wax so optimistic. Predicting IdrA to go down 1:2 instead of 0:2!

It's idiots like you that make pro's not wanna post on TL.



And he was actually right, oops :p

So? it's about the way people talk about pro's putting themself on the line here, not if he actually got the result right. So no, no oops, idiot.


The way you talk yourself is far more offensive than that harmless comment, it was more funny/sarcastic than full on talking down the player, so chill out
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 14:48:52
January 31 2012 14:46 GMT
#74
On January 31 2012 17:24 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 15:19 MrCash wrote:
On January 31 2012 14:57 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote:
Wax so optimistic. Predicting IdrA to go down 1:2 instead of 0:2!


Trolol.
On a more serious note, I wonder how does the mental status of a player who frequents on TL is affected by the predictions made about him by official posts.
Even if they publicly shrug it off, it must have some kind of psychological impact, especially if they have been a member of this community for many years.
I'm not referring only to Idra and losing, but also Huk and winning. Both can be perceived as having positive and negative affects, depending what light you shine on the subject.
Regardless, predictions should be made as unbiased as possible, it's just something I'm curious about.


don't think any professional athlete in any discipline thinks the media knows shit about their game


Very likely, but I'm thinking it in terms of morale more so than credibility.
Sure I don't care what some random jerk on bnet says about me, but something my family says about me, regardless of how intelligent I think my family members are, would carry much more weight.
My point being, to these guys TL is probably more than any random circle jerk website and a headline article would carry some emotional impact, regardless of how they feel about the intelligence/knowledge of the author.

I doubt even players themselves would be able to accurately discuss how they feel, because as professionals they really shouldn't be affected by this stuff. I still imagine though someone like Terrell Owens, even he eventually made public responses and cameo appearances on TV shows responding to comments about him. Point being it had an impact on him on some level. Question is how did it impact his performance and attitude.
SpaceYeti
Profile Joined June 2010
United States723 Posts
January 31 2012 15:18 GMT
#75
Gogo Sen! I'm totally rooting for you!
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LKCCOMANDER
Profile Joined November 2010
Costa Rica50 Posts
January 31 2012 17:42 GMT
#76
On January 31 2012 18:18 lacho_u wrote:
sen's gonna lose 2-0 sry but true has some very impressive z v z


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dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
January 31 2012 21:45 GMT
#77
Writers went 5/8 not bad. Bad day for foreigners.
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Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
February 01 2012 00:38 GMT
#78
On January 31 2012 17:24 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 15:19 MrCash wrote:
On January 31 2012 14:57 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote:
Wax so optimistic. Predicting IdrA to go down 1:2 instead of 0:2!


Trolol.
On a more serious note, I wonder how does the mental status of a player who frequents on TL is affected by the predictions made about him by official posts.
Even if they publicly shrug it off, it must have some kind of psychological impact, especially if they have been a member of this community for many years.
I'm not referring only to Idra and losing, but also Huk and winning. Both can be perceived as having positive and negative affects, depending what light you shine on the subject.
Regardless, predictions should be made as unbiased as possible, it's just something I'm curious about.


don't think any professional athlete in any discipline thinks the media knows shit about their game


That's what they say, and that's what they think. But many are affected, I'm sure. Your opinion is wishful thinking.
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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
February 01 2012 00:56 GMT
#79
great predictions
fish83814
Profile Joined July 2010
Taiwan98 Posts
February 01 2012 02:13 GMT
#80
I saw this thread after Sen won and just lol at those saying True is really good.
guess what, sen is better!

i think all sen need is some one good enough to practice against
the fact he can always come out ahead in the mid game and lose in the late game clearly shows that he just hadn't have the chance to play enough late game
he will most likely won already in the mid game against a lesser player
it is not easy to find another player good enough to practice late game with on ladder or in his team
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 01 2012 09:56 GMT
#81
On February 01 2012 09:38 Chunhyang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 17:24 Waxangel wrote:
On January 31 2012 15:19 MrCash wrote:
On January 31 2012 14:57 ShuttingFromTheSky wrote:
Wax so optimistic. Predicting IdrA to go down 1:2 instead of 0:2!


Trolol.
On a more serious note, I wonder how does the mental status of a player who frequents on TL is affected by the predictions made about him by official posts.
Even if they publicly shrug it off, it must have some kind of psychological impact, especially if they have been a member of this community for many years.
I'm not referring only to Idra and losing, but also Huk and winning. Both can be perceived as having positive and negative affects, depending what light you shine on the subject.
Regardless, predictions should be made as unbiased as possible, it's just something I'm curious about.


don't think any professional athlete in any discipline thinks the media knows shit about their game


That's what they say, and that's what they think. But many are affected, I'm sure. Your opinion is wishful thinking.


cause you've evidences to support your thesis, oh.. wait. So you might stfu it'd be better.
Zest fanboy.
SpaceYeti
Profile Joined June 2010
United States723 Posts
February 01 2012 14:53 GMT
#82
Yes!!!!! Suck it Sen haters!

Great games; gj Sen!
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