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December 23rd, 2011 05:30 GMT
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  • Review: 2011 Blizzard Cup

Grand Finals: MMA vs DongRaeGu


By: WaxAngel

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By now you all know, by watching or through word of mouth alone, that the Blizzard Cup final was the not only the greatest GSL final of all time, but possibly the best Starcraft II final to date. It's funny because only two the games were really back and forth, while five of the games were fairly one-sided. However, the greatness of a multi-game series is its ability to tell a story – when given the chance – over the course of many games, in a way that a single great match just can't compare. So with that, let's go through the series.

Introduction: History

Game One – Crossfire SE [image loading][image loading]:

The two finalists decided to open strong out of the gates.... with a Roach + Baneling bust and fast Banshees. It's a common tactic to try and take the initiative in a series by opening with something a bit cheesy or unusual, because not only can it give you an early win, but it really keeps an opponent guessing from the beginning of the series. This sort of mind game has yet to be counter-meta-gamed (making up even more non-existent words), so expect to see more of it in the future.

As far as this game went, the build order selection ended up favoring DRG heavily, or at least it should have. MMA went for fast triple-Orbital Commands with cloaked Banshees somehow squeezed in, leaving him very low on defenses. DRG's Roach + Baneling attack off two bases did a fair amount of damage, killing off 22 SCVs.

From there on out, DRG should have been able to win the game by just playing safely, but for some reason he did not get cloak detection until very late. As in, when cloaked Banshees were already killing his drones late. It was hard to understand, as DRG had seen the Banshees, and the Tech Lab at which Cloak was researching. It was a game swinging oversight, with the Banshees doing a huge amount of damage and forcing all of DRG's resources into anti-air defense. A Marine-Hellion follow-up came before DRG could think of building ground troops again, and ended the game.

Notes: It was interesting to see DRG bring a bust, even though both players agreed beforehand that the map favored Zerg in general. Perhaps he felt the need to try and get up in the mind-games by employing a cheesy tactic in game one. However, his lack of caution against Cloak cost him the game in the end, and gave MMA a vital win on one of the four of Zerg favored maps, guaranteeing that he would at least last until the fifth game on Daybreak.


Game Two – Tal'Darim Altar LE [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]:

Having prepared a slightly off-kilter build on the Zerg favored Crossfire, MMA decided to play it fairly standard on Tal'Darim Altar. I suspect he might have had a surprise in mind if they had drawn diagonal spots, but horizontal spots led him to try to play the game out in a regular way. DRG also played standard as well, making this one of the only two games where both players decided to play the game out ordinarily.

MMA moved out with a mid-game push of Marines, Medivacs, and two Tanks, deciding that he would be the one to force the action. It didn't appear to be a particularly dangerous push, with the Terran army at a moderate size, and the timing not exceptionally quick. However, MMA showed his championship credentials by forcing an engagement, and simply making things go his way through incredible micro.

With Tanks shooting up from the low ground at his gas, DRG made a force of Zerglings and Banelings to clear away the Terran force. DRG would have been happy with just an even trade that cleared away the encroaching Terran force, but instead he found himself trailing after MMA smashed his army with skillful marine splits.

MMA didn't force his advantange. With a 20 supply lead, he was content to sit back and try to ride the advantage to victory in a macro-game. He had succeeded in planting down a hidden base elsewhere on the map during the fighting, so time was on his side.

This plan worked out for MMA quite well, for the most part. There were, of course, a few kinks. First, DRG discovered the hidden base rather quickly, and took it out with Banelings and Mutalisks. Second, MMA kept losing valuable units for free, with persistent failed drops that did little against the well prepared DRG. Third, DRG was just pretty damn good as a whole, microing Mutas, Zerglings, and Banelings spectacularly to chip at the Terran force where he could.

In the end, though, there was no fatal flaw in MMA's macro-attrition plan. He kept up unit production, fought DRG's armies reasonably well, and most importantly, denied DRG from taking a fourth base.

DRG did get one last gap chance when he assembled a strong Infestor-Brood Lord army off of the dwindling resources of his three bases, which could perhaps do enough damage to set the game back to even. However, MMA just microed better in the final battle – where DRG made the second inexplicable move the night by ignoring two dropships full of tanks that assassinated his vital Infestors. That loss left DRG with nothing left in his the tank, and he was forced to GG.

Notes: At this point in the series things started to look very grim for DRG. Besides the fact that he was down two games, DRG had also dropped two of his favored maps. He would be forced to win at least two games on Antiga, Shakuras, or Daybreak. Though MMA had managed to overcome his map disadvantages with good play, DRG would have felt pressure about whether he could do the same. Additionally, MMA had defeated DRG in a straight-up game on a slightly Zerg favored map, which made one wonder what the heck DRG was supposed to do when it came down to the later games.


Game Three – Bel'Shir Beach [image loading]:

MMA could have tried to play it safe since he was up two games, but he stuck to the game plan. He went for the always dangerous Reactor Hellions into stim-Marauder timing, with both structures slightly riskily 'proxied' at his natural. None of these details really mattered, though, because MMA leapt 90% of the way to victory with his first two Hellions.

DRG made the third strange error of the series, cutting too many corners and having just two Queens to defend his very wide choke when MMA's first two Hellions arrived. MMA used some great micro to keep his Hellions alive and roast the frantically produced Zerglings, until the next pair of Hellions arrived to let him start doing some real damage.

MMA alternated between killing newly hatched lings and Drones, a process which kept his Hellions alive while dealing the maximum amount of damage possible. By the time DRG finally finished the Hellions off with speedlings, he was disastrously behind. MMA had no desire to make the game last any longer than it had to, and finished DRG off quickly with Hellions, Marauders, and SCVs.

Notes: This was the most one sided game of the series, and it was a let-down similar to the many times Protoss pros lose a game because they missed a force-field on their ramp against lings. The cute part was the ending, where MMA decided to just end it already, rather than force the game to drag out for five to ten more minutes. And of course, it put MMA up 3-0, going into the fourth and possibly series ending game on Dual Sight, DRG's best map.


Game Four – Dual Sight [image loading][image loading]:

Same strategy two times in a row? Who the hell does that? Maybe MMA was trying to catch DRG thinking just that. Although, it wasn't quite the same build order – just the same concept. MMA went for Hellions, expand, and then tried to follow-up with a stim-Marauder + Hellion timing to kill his opponent.

However, this time around, DongRaeGu did not take a ridiculous amount of early damage. With that one condition, the not one bit flustered DRG was able to play his favorite map precisely the way he wanted. Leaving precisely the right amount of defenses behind to stop MMA's Hellion-Marauder attack, DRG sent the rest of his lings in for a backdoor assault. While MMA's frontal assault was failing, so was his economy and tech back at home as Zerglings killed SCVs and destroyed a researching tech-lab.

After that, it was just going through the motions for the two players. There was no way DRG was going to give up a lead with the entire tournament on the line, and he played like it. A follow-up Zergling + Infestor attack furthered his lead, and he was able to finish the game later with Ultralisks.

Notes: I doubt MMA imagined he would be up 3-0 at this point in the series, so he just stuck with the game plan of an early Hellion-Marauder attack. With the series on the line, DRG finally brought his A-Game, making none of the uncharacteristic mistakes that marred the first three sets. Had he been nervous on those first three maps?


Game Five – Daybreak [image loading][image loading]:

DRG opened with the Roach + Baneling bust strat he had used against MMA three times already (twice at MLG, once in the first game of the finals). Though MMA had won the game in this particular series, he still took a lot of damage from the bust. Once more, MMA ended up taking a significant blow. It was the best prepared he was in all of those games, with four bunkers and a supply depot wall in front. However, MMA still didn't have enough to stop DRG's attack safely, and many units and SCVs were lost before he could secure his base again.

This attack put DRG at a good economic advantage, with twenty more workers and a third base building. MMA tried to retaliate by moving out once he had Stimpak and Medivacs, probing DRG for weaknesses and removing creep. However, DRG remained impervious by ground, and it looked like he would start to turn his economic superiority into military superiority very soon.

MMA decided that he would take the game to DRG, and try to make something happen, instead of wait out a situation where he was at a disadvantage. He loaded up two Medivacs full of Marines and dropped DRG's main.

This turned out to be the worst move MMA could have made, as DRG was more than prepared. Not only did MMA do no damage with his drop, but his retreat was intercepted by Mutalisks, costing him both Medivacs and all of their cargo. Needless to say, this loss compounded with MMA's weaker economy put DRG solidly in the driver's seat. MMA did the best he could to recover, but it was to no avail. DRG started producing huge amounts of Mutalisks, Zerglings, and Banelings, and crushed MMA's effort to take his third base. With the game almost completely out of control, MMA opted for the relatively quick GG to move on to the sixth game.

Notes: A disappointing loss for MMA on the first of three supposed Terran maps. It was one thing to lose to a bust, but another thing to lose to the same bust that rocked him in three previous games. DRG may have been expected to win on his favorite map, Dual Sight, but the game on Daybreak was a definite momentum shifter.


Game Six – Antiga Shipyard [image loading][image loading][image loading]:

MMA played this map as standard as humanly possible: Reactor Hellions into a relatively quick third base, with a mid-game Marine-Tank aggression to keep the opponent on his toes. This would probably have worked out pretty well for him, if DRG was going for his usual Muta-Bane-Ling strategy. However, DRG had yet another twist in mind, and this one involved Roaches and Banelings, too.

Mass Roach can be a great way to lose games against Terran, so much so that MMA discounted it altogether as a possibility. He obliviously set up a siege position on DRG's third base with Marines and Tanks, with just shields and no Stimpak. In the meanwhile, DRG was hitting a very dangerous +1 speed Roach timing. Once he got those two upgrades, he executed a devastating flank against MMA's Marine-Tank position, eliminating a huge portion of the Terran army.

Knowing that his army composition would grow weaker as the game went on, DRG set about capitalizing on his advantage while the window was open. He researched drop upgrades for his Overlords, got a Baneling Nest, and struck with a deadly +2 Roach and dropped Banelings attack. MMA made all the right units in preparation – Marauders and Tanks – but he just didn't have enough troops to hold the fort. DRG cut through the defenses, swarmed the main, and received the GG.

Notes: It was risky for DRG to play his Lair game completely differently, giving up his mastery of Muta-Ling for the surprise value of speed Roaches. It was shocking how well it paid off, due to MMA's equally shocking unawareness of the situation. More liberal scanning would certainly have revealed DRG's plan, but MMA must have felt so confident in a standard game on Antiga that he didn't feel the need to check once he had got past the early game safely.

In any case, it was a spectacular way to make a comeback. Arguably, DRG won his three games with more style and panache than MMA, who had to sweat a little to earn the win on Tal'Darim Altar. On the other hand, DRG looked extremely strong for three games straight, able to completely lock-down games where he had taken small leads.


Game Seven – Shakuras Plateau [image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]:

Is it worse to be down 0-3, or to be up 3-0, and have your opponent tie the series? 0-3 might crush some players, draining the hope from their hearts. To other players it might be liberating, to be free to play with a nothing-to-lose attitude, devoid of any external pressure. Being up 3-0 and having your opponent catch up might be the most heavy pressure situation in all of Starcraft, but some players might have the confidence to remember that they were good enough to go up 3-0, and know they're still good enough to win one final game.

We can't know what was going through the two finalists' heads going into the last game. All we can say is that it brought out the best in them, as they played one of the greatest Starcraft II games to date.

DongRaeGu and MMA had plenty of special tactics prepared throughout the series, but they both decided they would play the final game as straight up as they could. The map was split between east and west as both players established their economies and built up their armies, forgoing any early aggression minus some token harassment.

The first real aggressive move came from MMA, after he had production facilities running at full capacity. He made a strong push to establish control of the middle of the map, positioning his troops to control both watchtowers and set up a staging area to attack the central expands. Though he had allowed DRG to take the two mains and naturals on his side of the map, MMA was going to let the game hinge on denying the fifth and sixth bases.

In response, DRG went for his first bust through the middle, with a large Lair army of Mutalisks, Banelings, and Zerglings. The attack looked promising, but some Baneling mis-micro prevented him from dislodging MMA from the middle. MMA reinforced his position in the center, and began lifting tanks up onto the small mesas overlooking the central expansions. This proved to be one of the important tactics in the game, as MMA would keep reinforcing these cliffs to further his control of the center. It had the effect of giving DRG yet another thing to worry about, and having to keep some units in his composition at all times that could take care of the pesky high-ground tanks.

There was not much else for DRG to do but keep trying to clear the middle and free up his expansions. The other options were to try and engage MMA in roundabout ways, through drops or Nydus attacks, but DRG seemed to think they were not worth the risk or investment. Having switched to a Hive composition of Ultralisks, Zerglings, and Infestors, he charged headlong into the middle for a second time.

The line held again, but only momentarily. DRG was able to reinforce quicker than MMA, and a second wave of Ultralisks was able to come through and break the center. With this breakthrough, DRG achieved several useful things. He took a fifth base, destroyed MMA's fourth base, and bought himself the time to switch into Brood Lords. However, he also made one poor move, where he kept pushing with his Ultralisks into MMA's main. Ultralisks do not fare well in narrow chokes and building mazes, and DRG gave up a good portion of his advantage by throwing his Ultralisks away for relatively little gain.

Even so, DRG still had the momentum to keep attacking, and kept up the pressure with a deadly combination of Ultralisks and Brood Lords. But alas! He forgot anti-air units, as many Zergs happen to do. Naturally, the attack failed against the Viking equipped MMA, giving him a valuable breather to settle his affairs, gather his forces, and resume his campaign to control the center. A string of ugly delaying engagements by DRG saw his temporary lead slip entirely away, and he found his fifth, central expansion die to siege fire from the high-ground, while MMA once again controlled the center.

The situation looked bleak for DongRaeGu. MMA had fully secured the other main and natural on his side of the map, while DRG was still limited to his first four bases, two of them having mined out already. MMA was so secure with his control of the center that he found troops to spare for his trademark drop tactics – which proved to be at least a considerable annoyance, though they did not do too much damage.

With the game rapidly slipping out of grasp, DRG put it together and found a way to claw his way back into the game. Abandoning Ultralisks altogether, he put together a Brood Lord centered army supported by Corruptors, Infestors, and Zerglings. With one minute of excellent focus, micro, and coordination, DRG managed to push back MMA's line once more, and take the all important central bases – only to have MMA snipe them away with splinter groups of Marines and Marauders that exploited the terrible mobility of Brood Lords.

With his center expansions denied for what seemed like the hundredth time, DRG was finally left with no other option but to go for broke. Though he had a strong army of Brood Lords with their supporting entourage, he judged that he simply wasn't going to be able to play defense and wait for his hatcheries to complete again. MMA had three bases mining at full capacity, and waiting would not get DRG anywhere.

DongRaeGu gathered up his entire army for one final attack. The expansions weren't his target. To win the game, DRG needed to force an engagement with the main Terran force, wipe it out, and destroy the production facilities that would allow it to be produced again. The only viable target was the Terran main.

The first part of DRG's charge appeared to go well, as he caught all of MMA's Vikings with a series of well placed Fungal Growths. However, that gain turned into a trade, as the Infestors were quickly focused fired down by Tanks after completing their task. This left Brood Lords pushing in by spawning Broodlings, while Zerglings waited in the rear for an opportunity to run in and join the battle.

DRG made some headway into MMA's main, killing off a few barracks while clearing the ramp for his Zerglings to join the battle. However, MMA was mining, DRG was not, and DRG wasn't doing enough damage, or doing it fast enough, to maintain the momentum on his attack. Marines filed out of the Barracks faster than they could be killed, and sat in wait until they could reach a critical number.

Once DRG mis-microed and lost his Corruptors to Marines, the game was decided. With nothing to fend off the Vikings being produced three at a time, the Brood Lords fell. Marines and Vikings charged in, wiping out the Brood Lords, and along with them, DRG's final hope. Accepting his fate, DongRaeGu left the game with a cool 'ggyo.'

Notes: More than anything else, DRG's macro was very impressive. There were barely any gaps between producing armies that MMA was able to exploit, and his ability to always have a strong fighting force out on the field allowed him to match MMA in brute force for much of the game.

However, it was the finesse related aspects of the game that let DRG down. There were some engagements that could have been won with better Baneling micro, and more crucially, he did not devote enough energy towards making sure his central bases stayed absolutely safe once he got them.

As for MMA, he played a great half-map style Terran game. He did not over-extend himself, did not expand any faster than he had to, and simply played an overall rock-solid style. MMA's multi-tasking proved to be superior to DRG's, which won him the game in the end. He made expansion denial his primary goal, and won because he stuck to that plan.


Tournament Review: 2011 Blizzard Cup


By: Waxangel

The Blizzard Cup seemed like an interesting idea when it was first announced in 2010. Blizzard would lend its name to a year-end wrap up tournament, where the best players of the year would be invited to battle it out for one final championship.

At the end of 2011, the idea had lost a lot of its luster. Of course, ten elite, high profile players duking it out over a week was sure to provide some great thrills. But with one year of Code S in us, it seemed like the Blizzard Cup was missing its mark.

Why did GomTV need MLG, IEM, or any other organization to help them decide who should be invited to a tournament that supposedly had the best players of the year? After all, they had spent an entire year building up the GSL, creating continuity and tradition, and proving that it was several times harder to win than any other tournament, and that much more prestigious. Hearts were broken, dreams were crushed, and a privileged few attained incredible glory during eight grueling Code S and Super Tournament campaigns. After all that, how could we take the Blizzard Cup seriously? What exactly was on the line? For all its grandeur, the Blizzard Cup was looking more and more like a showmatch.

Korea has pro baseball, soccer, basketball, and volleyball. Oh, and Brood War Proleague. Couldn't GomTV have taken the hint and decided that the best way to finish a season was to have some good old fashioned playoffs? Seed thirty players by GSL points, throw in two foreign seeds to sell those overseas tickets, and you've got one hell of a tournament. Even if they didn't implement my dream scenario, it seemed like GomTV was missing out on a big opportunity by sticking with their invitational format.

Even the invitational format itself felt a bit lacking. Ten players, seven days, best of one? All of it felt so much less than what we were used to from the GSL. The GSL World Championship - the other GSL special event of the year - had also scaled back to a degree, but not to the degree that the GSL stopped resembling itself.

Of course, all of these complaints seem largely forgotten now, as the Blizzard Cup finished with the greatest GSL finals ever, greatest GSL game ever, and by extension the greatest Starcraft II series and game ever. In six months time, most people are just going to remember this as a great tournament, the one with the awesome finals, and that Naniwa thing.

Tournaments can live and die at the mercy of game quality, and I imagine being a tournament organizer is a pretty stressful experience. I'm sure tournament organizers have consumed many an alcoholic beverage over the "were the games any good" lottery. Can't you vividly imagine these scenarios as they happened? Mr. Chae: "INNNNCCCCAAAAAAA!!!!!" *downs an entire bottle of soju* or David Ting: "LUUUCCKKYyyy... But Stephano won, so err... cheers, I guess?" and Russell Pfister: "MC, Puma, this 30 year single malt is your reward for preventing this tournament from being an unmitigated disaster." I can tell you this much: the TSL3 crew got joyfully plastered.

A little strange, but it makes sense. After all, fans are watching Starcraft to see games, or more specifically, the stories pro-gamers tell through their games. Heck, think of tournaments as storybooks (everyone loves stories where heroes fight krakens). It definitely helps to have it printed on nice paper, with beautiful illustrations. Also, it's nice if it doesn't take thirty minutes to turn a goddamn page. And of course, it's wonderful if Morgan Freeman is reading it to you. But if the story itself sucks, why bother in the first place?

I'm not saying my complaints about Blizzard Cup have been invalidated. They're still things I think GomTV should consider in the future. However, my complaints – and anyone else's – will just have a negligible effect on how the 2011 Blizzard Cup will be rated as a tournament anymore. Public sentiment in ESPORTS tends towards being romantic, looking at everything through rosy glasses.

Now, is there anything wrong with this 'ends justify the means' way of how tournaments are perceived? Well, I'm not about to be the elitist jerk nerd who goes around saying "Hey, that thing you enjoyed a lot and thought was awesome? Enjoy it about 13% less." But I think we can at least say that it was an awesome tournament and flawed at the same time, and know that these two things aren't mutually exclusive.

Starcraft II fans, you are what you are. Do what you will – tournament organizers are at your mercy. If you say the Blizzard Cup was awesome, then it was awesome. If you want to GomTV know that it was best GSL of all time, then they will know. Please, just let them know as well, that they have a chance to make their next year end tournament even better.









Art by alteredclone.
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Writers: WaxAngel
Graphics: Meko
Editors: Antoine, WaxAngel
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 05:36:45
December 23 2011 05:31 GMT
#2
Look at all those words! I know some of those words!
good work as usual*
I still love that picture*
Somebody else post already!*
To the hatchery! To the wall! Till all dem drones fall! 3 6 9 standing real fine move it to the hatch sing it to me one mo time. rush probe rush probe rush probe rush probe rush probe to all skit skit god dam

DRGs pouty face :< you'll get 1st next time!
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RoninShogun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States315 Posts
December 23 2011 05:45 GMT
#3
Very long indeed! but easily the best GSL final yet deserves such great writing. I enjoy that you are sticking to the nani poster, as well
Artosis: Yeah I was gonna probe rush but someone did that yesterday
DivinO
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United States4796 Posts
December 23 2011 05:49 GMT
#4
Alteredclone's art is amazing.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
December 23 2011 05:55 GMT
#5
I agree that 10 players for something as big as the Blizzard Cup is very few. I understand what they were going for with many of the invites being hyped up as 'champions' in one way or another, but it also seemed very empty.
Spread your eggs until they crack!
Tamz
Profile Joined October 2011
United States28 Posts
December 23 2011 05:57 GMT
#6
good write up as usual
dnld12
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United States324 Posts
December 23 2011 06:01 GMT
#7
I liked the blizzard cup but cant say i liked the Pool play. wanted straght up cut throat elim brackets no pool play at all.
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generalyao
Profile Joined July 2011
United States262 Posts
December 23 2011 06:06 GMT
#8
Enjoyable read.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
December 23 2011 06:07 GMT
#9
I imagine the idea of pool play is to see as many star match ups as possible, but the length of the tournament didn't quite feel consistent with the scope/reward. Epic series anyways, and I'm glad focus was given to both the difficulty of coming back from 0-3 as well as pulling yourself together after letting 3-0 slip.
ZombieRitual
Profile Joined August 2011
United States121 Posts
December 23 2011 06:08 GMT
#10
Great article! I've been looking forward to it since I watched the VODs the next morning (without spoilers!) and had my jaw drop! I love MMA but man I was so hoping for DRG to reverse 4-0 it!
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
December 23 2011 06:15 GMT
#11
Good work.
I miss having the player scores at the end of each match and overall though...
You did touch briefly on it saying that DRG won in more convincing fashion than MMA, but I guess I just like my A+ and C- better.

:D

FOR DRG!!
moo...for DRG
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
December 23 2011 06:15 GMT
#12
Spectacular as always, was hoping for a Fionn article as well though, but oh well!
Even after watching it 5 times, that last game givea me some major chills even when reading it. That said, you make a great point that a great ending should not distract us from flaws.
kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
December 23 2011 06:18 GMT
#13
was an amazing series.
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
December 23 2011 06:20 GMT
#14
how come there was never a leenok vs jjakji review? that finals was far superior IMO.
juked
Profile Joined May 2010
United States691 Posts
December 23 2011 06:20 GMT
#15
Great GSL event and I'm glad they didn't make us pay for it. Next time DRG, the championship is yours
Darathor
Profile Joined February 2011
United States327 Posts
December 23 2011 06:31 GMT
#16
Great write-up as per the usual. I agree that, while the tournament had several very recognizable problems, it was still great and had the best finals to date.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
December 23 2011 06:44 GMT
#17
>Mr. Chae: "INNNNCCCCAAAAAAA!!!!!" *downs an entire bottle of soju*

I want to see that happening.

Game 7 was amazing, a shame that I only watched it when it was ending.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 23 2011 06:54 GMT
#18
Great tournament!! Too bad hero played so poorly T_T
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 23 2011 06:59 GMT
#19
DRG looked all sweaty and tense and resolved in between the games, like a fighter being down in a bout but determined to come out on top in the end.

MMA looked cold and collected and calculating.

It was the Luke Skywalker vs Darth Vader fight of the Blizzard Cup. Amazing. That makes BoxeR the Emperor which is strangely appropriate. But that also makes MMA DRG's dad, which seems weird.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 23 2011 07:06 GMT
#20
Obviously bo3 group stages would have been better, but is having 4 games to prove yourself any worse than having let's say... a bo3 against 1 other person? It's a legitimate format, and the later stages had some good series as well besides the finals.
kAelle_sc
Profile Joined April 2011
287 Posts
December 23 2011 07:07 GMT
#21
great zvt finals, like the zvt "final" (Z)NesTea vs. (T)sC
It's all about the journey, not the outcome.
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
December 23 2011 07:22 GMT
#22
So happy for MMA. What an epic finals.

Great write up
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ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
December 23 2011 07:53 GMT
#23
Nice write-up. A final play-off 32 man tournament knock-out sounds more fun to end the year! Top 24 GSL players by points, then top placing foreigners in MLG, Dreamhack, IEM, IPL, etc. get invited!
catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
December 23 2011 08:08 GMT
#24
awesome battle report. thank you! :D
^^
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
December 23 2011 08:14 GMT
#25
bahahahahahha TSL3 crew
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
December 23 2011 08:15 GMT
#26
On December 23 2011 15:59 Mobius_1 wrote:
DRG looked all sweaty and tense and resolved in between the games, like a fighter being down in a bout but determined to come out on top in the end.


A sweaty and tense DRG is the best kind of DRG
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moo...for DRG
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
December 23 2011 08:46 GMT
#27
These write ups get better and better. Thank you!
Liquipedia
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
December 23 2011 08:47 GMT
#28
Great write up like always. Hopefully TL doesn't cut writers like MLG did, that'd be freakin awful.
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Ciraxis
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia400 Posts
December 23 2011 09:02 GMT
#29
Well written, and I think the criticism of Blizzard Cup was quite necessary.
Kahuna.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada196 Posts
December 23 2011 09:27 GMT
#30
Nice summary of the games and understandable critique at the end there... overall great write-up! However, I thought the Blizzard Cup was fine. In terms of improvement... sure there could've been that. But not everything is perfect. The Blizzard Cup was awesome and if next year's is this awesome then I'd be satisfied. Perhaps the level of awesomeness that satisfies me isn't as high as everyone elses, but I guess that's better for me... since I'll be relatively happier compared to the complainers.
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p T r
Profile Joined November 2010
United States94 Posts
December 23 2011 10:17 GMT
#31
I didn't realize until I read this that there were only two close games, I guess I was too hyped.
Anyway nice write-up, good read.
But you're missing a star on game seven.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 23 2011 11:02 GMT
#32
Great write up as always
Final game really was one of the best games ever played
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
December 23 2011 11:18 GMT
#33
yeah, the finals was epic but the format... not so much.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 23 2011 12:05 GMT
#34
On December 23 2011 17:47 devPLEASE wrote:
Great write up like always. Hopefully TL doesn't cut writers like MLG did, that'd be freakin awful.

We aren't paid lol
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jeffvip
Profile Joined June 2011
211 Posts
December 23 2011 12:41 GMT
#35
U should mentioned bout how epic MMA are with that tank drops in both Game2 and Game 7 instead of DRG mistake for not taking it down. I think these are the key move that win him the game,
Marine is Terran strongest unit but it might be Terran's biggest weakness. Bcos of Marine so OP, other Terran unit regrettably have to be weak..
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
December 23 2011 13:04 GMT
#36
On December 23 2011 21:41 jeffvip wrote:
U should mentioned bout how epic MMA are with that tank drops in both Game2 and Game 7 instead of DRG mistake for not taking it down. I think these are the key move that win him the game,


Agreed. The article says that DRG "inexplicably" made a mistake - it was down more to MMA's brilliance than DRG's stupidity in my opinion. And I don't see how it was inexplicable at all - the thread was full of explanations.
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
December 23 2011 13:21 GMT
#37
On December 23 2011 21:05 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 17:47 devPLEASE wrote:
Great write up like always. Hopefully TL doesn't cut writers like MLG did, that'd be freakin awful.

We aren't paid lol


Since when is basking in the glory of being a TL writer not payment? Tsssk!
Only the dead have seen the end of war
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 14:11:30
December 23 2011 14:10 GMT
#38
there are too many probes in the naniwa picture ;p
EDIT: or ... is that 7.... either way you have good points about enjoyability vs goodness
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
izen
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden136 Posts
December 23 2011 14:26 GMT
#39
Really great writup! Thank you
the final game was sooo intense! I was jumping up and down on my chair cheering for mma. Will never forget that last gome
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wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
December 23 2011 14:30 GMT
#40
It feels weird to see MMA no longer as the underdog but rather the juggernaut and hear about a player comeback to almost kill him rather him being the one to reverse things...

Ohh how things have changed.

At any rate, here's hoping to another year of GSL awesomeness!

Cheers!
Gameplay > Personality
Diabolegal
Profile Joined June 2011
United States110 Posts
December 23 2011 14:37 GMT
#41
Nice read, but the Naniwa pic at the end is getting old.
Diamond Terran (NA)
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
December 23 2011 14:52 GMT
#42
5 star = max??
btw great review(again)
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
December 23 2011 15:09 GMT
#43
Thank You, great read and an amazing final.
Liquipedia
Altercate
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden75 Posts
December 23 2011 15:27 GMT
#44
Absolutely amazing series of games and I just hope this is a sign of things to come as StarCraft II develops and players get more and more skilled. As a whole, the series was tremendously entertaining. Taken out of context, the final game seven is a stunning display of top tier skill, and within the context of the series, a smashing finale to a brilliantly told tale. It's the kind of series that makes me love both the winner and the loser.
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ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1680 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 15:46:05
December 23 2011 15:45 GMT
#45
I don't understand. I follow the odd SC2 tournament out of vague curiosity, but the best finals ever with games rated as 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5 stars seems pretty awful. Can anyone enlighten me as to how it justifies this title, when more than half of the games didn't even break a 2 star rating?
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 15:53:18
December 23 2011 15:51 GMT
#46
On December 24 2011 00:45 ImbaTosS wrote:
I don't understand. I follow the odd SC2 tournament out of vague curiosity, but the best finals ever with games rated as 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5 stars seems pretty awful. Can anyone enlighten me as to how it justifies this title, when more than half of the games didn't even break a 2 star rating?



In the first paragraph of the article:

It's funny because only two the games were really back and forth, while five of the games were fairly one-sided. However, the greatness of a multi-game series is its ability to tell a story – when given the chance – over the course of many games, in a way that a single great match just can't compare. So with that, let's go through the series


oh @wax typo: "only two of the games"
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woobsauce
Profile Joined August 2011
United States491 Posts
December 23 2011 16:01 GMT
#47
Is there a reason you didn't mention the final hatchery snipe by a partial drop + tanks from MMA's 5th to deny DRG's final mining base in the game 7 analysis? :3
Geordie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom653 Posts
December 23 2011 16:49 GMT
#48
On December 23 2011 14:31 Probe1 wrote:
Look at all those words! I know some of those words!
good work as usual*
I still love that picture*
Somebody else post already!*
To the hatchery! To the wall! Till all dem drones fall! 3 6 9 standing real fine move it to the hatch sing it to me one mo time. rush probe rush probe rush probe rush probe rush probe to all skit skit god dam

DRGs pouty face :< you'll get 1st next time!


It kinda makes me cringe how you obviously didnt even read the article yet you felt the need to get the first post, I presume as soon as you saw this you clicked on view and scrolled down and quickly type in the message. What is the actual point? Atleast read the damn article first, the reason for nobody commenting after you for a good 15 minutes is because everyone else actually took the time to read the article before they posted.

Good article as well, liked the touch with the naniwa poster haha.
JAWS_
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil61 Posts
December 23 2011 17:24 GMT
#49
Great writting, although I didn't liked how biased it was towards to DongRaegu, always saying that MMA brilhant moves were actually his mistakes.

For real guys who of you in the middle of 400 APM would bother to snipe Medvacs? Is easy to talk it was a mistake when you are watching and not playing, and for crist sake I at the moment even thought MMA was wasting his Medvacs, didn't noticed the tanks inside it.


And in my opinion you totally misread the final battle of game 7, MMA was in fact barely holding DRG broodlords, and DRG was constantly reinforcing with lings, at one time MMA would break, but it was again another tank drop that made MMA snipe the last DRG mining base, and THAT is what made him GG.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
December 23 2011 19:08 GMT
#50
On December 23 2011 14:31 Probe1 wrote:
Look at all those words! I know some of those words!
good work as usual*
I still love that picture*
Somebody else post already!*
To the hatchery! To the wall! Till all dem drones fall! 3 6 9 standing real fine move it to the hatch sing it to me one mo time. rush probe rush probe rush probe rush probe rush probe to all skit skit god dam

DRGs pouty face :< you'll get 1st next time!


Errr... have you been drinking and posting?
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Saronix
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada73 Posts
December 23 2011 19:51 GMT
#51
I still think Leenock vs jjakji finals was the best finals I had ever seen. Don't get me wrong, this one was good though.
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
December 23 2011 20:23 GMT
#52
mma is awesome!
IM & EG supporter
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
December 23 2011 20:26 GMT
#53
great write up
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MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
December 23 2011 20:46 GMT
#54
If the haters still wants to whine about not buying ticket because of Naniwa's deserved punishment, then their loss. I for one can't wait to look forward being a consistent customer to see more epic games like the ones shown in Blizzard Cup, including Naniwa's incredible games before he acted like a fool.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
December 23 2011 21:13 GMT
#55
lmao That naniwa graphic is awesome. To battle little probes!

On December 23 2011 21:05 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 17:47 devPLEASE wrote:
Great write up like always. Hopefully TL doesn't cut writers like MLG did, that'd be freakin awful.

We aren't paid lol


Go on strike, demand 50,000 Esports dollars a year.

I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
McPricE
Profile Joined May 2010
58 Posts
December 23 2011 22:42 GMT
#56
On December 24 2011 01:01 woobsauce wrote:
Is there a reason you didn't mention the final hatchery snipe by a partial drop + tanks from MMA's 5th to deny DRG's final mining base in the game 7 analysis? :3


THIS!!! I cant believe this wasn't in the write up. It was such an epic move and he may not have won without it. I rewatched to see where the fuck they came from and I believe they were taken to the pocket expo by medivacs from the main when the big final pressure was beginning. There they waited for like 2 min and their time to strike. Gorgeous. Also there was another epic tank drop that happened earlier on top of infestors who were naked in the back of the zerg forces which also got me out of my seat. Great writeup but I guess theres just too much MMA greatness to remember it all. Also 5 stars is like 5 too few for game7 imo, sickest nerd chills and nonstop shiteating grin on my face for 20 straight minutes. Only game Ive ever seen(no broodwar experience at all) that comes even close was Losira / MMa from Columbus I believe it was. Man Esports is getting to be like watching football for me (only a handful of games all year were as exciting), complete w/ fistpumping, yelling, that lovely sick feeling in your stomach when shit comes down to the wire, and raucous cheering to celebrate the victor. If only it had been at a barcraft...

MMA! MMA!! MMA!!! MMA!!!!!!!!!
SpunXtain
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia165 Posts
December 23 2011 22:46 GMT
#57
^^ wish DRG had won though, it would have been that tiny bit more awesome.
Bones_
Profile Joined December 2011
United States4 Posts
December 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#58
I really liked this summary, especially the fact that you always pointed out the out-of-game context of the players' individual perspectives. It must have been crushing for DRG to drop the first three games, but perhaps equally so for MMA to drop the next three, just as you said. I, like others, think that the points that you made about the tournament format were well-articulated and justified. However, like you said, the end was fantastic, and only time will tell if that is the most important part.

My only criticism is that you made the Siege Tank drop in the second game out to be a mistake by DRG. While he surely could have reacted better (perhaps I see the maneuver through optimistic eyes), I think that in the heat of the moment, the move was actually a fantastic decision and a great bit of micro and thinking-on-his-feet done by MMA that should not be discounted.

It is interesting that the games (excluding the seventh) were all so poorly rated, yet the finals ended up being spectacular overall. The context was everything, and the final game was the best I have ever seen, except perhaps from Brood War with Stork vs. GGPlay (the hour and a half long one - LINK for anyone interested). Personally, I am very pleased to have bought a year-long premium ticket to the GSL, and hopefully this series will foreshadow more great ones to come!

Thanks again for the great write-up!
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
December 23 2011 23:20 GMT
#59
I would like collapse and cry if I had been up 3-0 and had gone 0-3 to make it 3-3... so WP MMA
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
bundo
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada113 Posts
December 24 2011 01:55 GMT
#60
7th game was nail bitting!
i loled at "greatest finals ever and the naniwa thing"
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5414 Posts
December 24 2011 03:59 GMT
#61
I took a short video at the end of game 6... the live atmosphere was pretty crazy. Very loud, very energetic. Can't get the full feeling of the excitement from the VODs.

The audio might be a little loud in this video.


viii
Profile Joined March 2011
United States266 Posts
December 24 2011 06:12 GMT
#62
if it was to show "champions" they didnt really get to show it, players were short of games imo
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corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
December 24 2011 07:51 GMT
#63
i wouldve been very indignant if game 7 hadnt been 5 stars. the whole time i was scrolling down and looking at the ratings, i really hoped it had been awarded 5 stars. im glad even tl recognizes how fuckin amazing that shit was.
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
December 24 2011 08:06 GMT
#64
I took a short video at the end of game 6... the live atmosphere was pretty crazy. Very loud, very energetic. Can't get the full feeling of the excitement from the VODs.


:O lots of happy Koreans. I thought I was watching a big room of people watching a sports match, it felt like a living room.

Where are the VODS? Will they ever be uploaded?
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
December 24 2011 08:28 GMT
#65
Great write up as usual!!! <3ed Blizz Cup
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dekarp
Profile Joined December 2011
286 Posts
December 24 2011 09:30 GMT
#66
On December 24 2011 12:59 SoleSteeler wrote:
I took a short video at the end of game 6... the live atmosphere was pretty crazy. Very loud, very energetic. Can't get the full feeling of the excitement from the VODs.

The audio might be a little loud in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaoVfZP98Vw


Really cool, thanks for sharing!
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ZeroWave
Profile Joined December 2011
Israel49 Posts
December 24 2011 09:32 GMT
#67
sorry if I missed it anywhere in the comments, but can someone share a link to the replays/videos of the games? I didn't get to see this...
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snejstorm
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany52 Posts
December 24 2011 11:10 GMT
#68
I havent seen the games yet. Need to pay for a season ticket -.-
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
December 24 2011 11:39 GMT
#69
I would miss that Naniwa poster
badeanden
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway56 Posts
December 24 2011 15:06 GMT
#70
I think Blizzard Cup was perfect. 10 VERY Good players, whom I all knew. Every match was a match I wanted to see, something that is very rare in tournaments. For me, as a medium skilled player, who do not spend that much time watching tournaments, this was the perfect ending of a good sc2 year. Please GomTV give us a new blizzard cup next year <3
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KingAce
Profile Joined September 2010
United States471 Posts
December 24 2011 16:51 GMT
#71
Game 7 is the Starcraft 2 you've been waiting for. I really hope we see more games like these in 2012.
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EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
December 24 2011 17:49 GMT
#72
I'm still a bit down for DRG because I really wanted him to win. But MMA played very well so there is no shame in losing to him. Also after that come back and that game 7, DRG can walk anywhere with his chin well up in the air. GG!
aka Wardo
PolskaGora
Profile Joined May 2011
United States547 Posts
December 24 2011 18:39 GMT
#73
Finally, I was wondering when this would get put up! I was beginning to think you guys had forgotten, haha. This was an absolutely epic series although I disagree with some of the ratings. For example, game 1 definitely deserves more than two stars. But alas, that is but merely my own opinion. Great writeup! It was a pleasure reading.
Tracking treasure down
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 22:48:53
December 24 2011 22:43 GMT
#74
I have a question about the final game that is bugging me.
Someone please explain me why MMA didn't build Ghost Academy when he scanned The Greater Spire, or any time after that?
I think that a few ghost on high ground next to the tanks would be awesome, especially against infesters, but against brood lords, ultras as well.
Maybe I missed something or I just don't understand sc2.
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JAWS_
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil61 Posts
December 25 2011 07:49 GMT
#75
Cause he is such a Boss and wanted to show he can beat DRG without Ghosts :D
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 25 2011 08:40 GMT
#76
On December 24 2011 01:49 Geordie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 14:31 Probe1 wrote:
Look at all those words! I know some of those words!
good work as usual*
I still love that picture*
Somebody else post already!*
To the hatchery! To the wall! Till all dem drones fall! 3 6 9 standing real fine move it to the hatch sing it to me one mo time. rush probe rush probe rush probe rush probe rush probe to all skit skit god dam

DRGs pouty face :< you'll get 1st next time!


It kinda makes me cringe how you obviously didnt even read the article yet you felt the need to get the first post, I presume as soon as you saw this you clicked on view and scrolled down and quickly type in the message. What is the actual point? Atleast read the damn article first, the reason for nobody commenting after you for a good 15 minutes is because everyone else actually took the time to read the article before they posted.

Good article as well, liked the touch with the naniwa poster haha.

lol. You're right I didn't read it when it was published. I read it a few hours beforehand to check it for errors. swing and a miss


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우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Ghostface_Killa
Profile Joined March 2011
United States168 Posts
December 25 2011 12:07 GMT
#77
It's almost 2012 and we're still doing Battle Reports?
Arrested for what, baby? Being awesome?
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
December 25 2011 15:55 GMT
#78
MMAs style is much more finesse based, rather than brute force the way MVPs is. Like it or not, ghosts are actually super hearty unit that work best inner the front lines of the main army rather than dropping the peripheral bases to do damage (unless you're ryung). MMAs style relies on out multitasking his opponent and sniping bases and tech with drops.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 25 2011 19:11 GMT
#79
On December 25 2011 21:07 Ghostface_Killa wrote:
It's almost 2012 and we're still doing Battle Reports?

What an amusingly ironic complaint coming from a person who chose a homage to the 1992 rap group, Wu-Tang Clan, as a online handle.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 21:07:59
December 25 2011 21:07 GMT
#80
The storyline and the series between MMA and DRG was amazing!! game 7 was truly an epic conclusion to the hectic blizzard cup! (:

"DAT PICTURE" .. its so awesome ♥ :D
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StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
December 25 2011 21:09 GMT
#81
On December 24 2011 12:59 SoleSteeler wrote:
I took a short video at the end of game 6... the live atmosphere was pretty crazy. Very loud, very energetic. Can't get the full feeling of the excitement from the VODs.

The audio might be a little loud in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaoVfZP98Vw


That right there.. That is Esports at it's finest
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RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
December 26 2011 03:58 GMT
#82
finally had some time to get around and read this.. great writing! unfortunately never saw blizzcup finals so was a nice recap
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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 26 2011 12:23 GMT
#83
Many people forget that the success or failure of the final set rests not only on players or luck, but also on the tournament design. When a Final succeed, each of these component deserves equal blame or praise, but the bracket designer rarely gets the proper respect.
Thank God and gunrun.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 26 2011 13:04 GMT
#84
So Primadog are you saying that the previous GSL format (2011 style) was a failure because it produced blowouts for the finals more often than heated matches?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 21:32:02
December 26 2011 13:11 GMT
#85
On December 26 2011 22:04 Probe1 wrote:
So Primadog are you saying that the previous GSL format (2011 style) was a failure because it produced blowouts for the finals more often than heated matches?


Yes.

I am willing to argue that the evidence is against GSL when it took 10(?) GSLs to finally get a "good" finals. When in comparison, every other tournament out there has much better success rate. My secondary argument is that GSL knows this problem, hence why Mr Chae have went through four or five iterations of the GSL format up to this point. No other tournament has undergo so much and so many drastic changes in format (except, perhaps IPL).

Beyond those two, there're reasons under tournament design as well. It's something I plan to write about eventually of the "bracket theory" series.
Thank God and gunrun.
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
December 26 2011 16:08 GMT
#86
it was a fun tournament
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
December 26 2011 18:00 GMT
#87
Nice write-up, was an enjoyable tournament with some odd format choices, but good games
Remfire
Profile Joined October 2010
492 Posts
December 26 2011 20:03 GMT
#88
nice work thanks for all the information
Chamgi
Profile Joined October 2011
United States11 Posts
December 26 2011 22:22 GMT
#89
it was crazy to the very end
Stay hungry. Stay foolish.
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
December 27 2011 06:27 GMT
#90
On December 23 2011 16:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Obviously bo3 group stages would have been better, but is having 4 games to prove yourself any worse than having let's say... a bo3 against 1 other person? It's a legitimate format, and the later stages had some good series as well besides the finals.


It's not obvious that bo3 would be better than group play. What ever would you make you say such a thing to begin with? And then adding the word obviously?
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
December 27 2011 06:29 GMT
#91
On December 27 2011 15:27 OPL3SA2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 16:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Obviously bo3 group stages would have been better, but is having 4 games to prove yourself any worse than having let's say... a bo3 against 1 other person? It's a legitimate format, and the later stages had some good series as well besides the finals.


It's not obvious that bo3 would be better than group play. What ever would you make you say such a thing to begin with? And then adding the word obviously?


Well Bo3 is obviously better than Bo1... That's just common sense...
It being better than 4 Bo1 though is not obvious.
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
December 27 2011 06:31 GMT
#92
On December 25 2011 21:07 Ghostface_Killa wrote:
It's almost 2012 and we're still doing Battle Reports?


It's 2012 and you're still gHoStFaCeKiLLa?
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
December 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#93
On December 25 2011 21:07 Ghostface_Killa wrote:

It's almost 2012 and we're still doing Battle Reports?


Battle report make us see many things we have missed or didn't understand from VOD.
It is the game seen through eyes of expert. I love reading it.
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 28 2011 18:39 GMT
#94
Great write up WaxAngel finally got around to reading it, been so busy last week. Thanks man! : )
Greed leads to just about all losses.
xingnian
Profile Joined December 2011
Barbados2 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 08:12:53
December 29 2011 08:12 GMT
#95
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Areon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States273 Posts
December 30 2011 06:00 GMT
#96
I've just gotta throw this out there, that was one of the best conclusions of any article I've ever seen. Waxangel wraps it all up with a positive flair yet cleverly expresses his own opinion in the most agreeable way possible. A great read, the Blizzard Cup was indeed awesome but next year's year end tournament can be even more so.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 30 2011 20:18 GMT
#97
The entire Slayers team rushing the stage after MMA winning and the subsequent celebration was magical. Great play from both players, and I hope the 2 of them find great success in 2012.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
December 31 2011 01:34 GMT
#98
hm i cant agree with waxangel.
for me blizzard cup was great and it was fantastic choosing winner of other tournaments... top30 gsl would be another boring supertournament but this was something way way better

so i have to disagree with what the op says
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Searling
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4 Posts
December 31 2011 02:13 GMT
#99
=)
Get some
Liph
Profile Joined April 2011
United States151 Posts
December 31 2011 05:07 GMT
#100
I disagree completely with your final statements about Gom's production. I honestly feel you are still allowing bitter naniwa resentment to gnaw at you immaturely even though they made the correct decisions. Gom has done everything perfectly in my books and nothing you have wrote or articulated is tactful enough to dissuade.
"You Miss 100% of the Shots You Don't Take - Wayne Gretsky" Michael Gary Scott
xiaokmmy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 11:58:23
December 31 2011 11:58 GMT
#101
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
gdfgdf
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
January 03 2012 05:18 GMT
#102
The Blizzard Cup was a great way to end the year. I could complain about so many things in how it was handled, but that final, (finally a decent final), kind of ended up washing away most of my complaints.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
farside604
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada127 Posts
January 05 2012 10:28 GMT
#103
This was an awesome way to end a year of starcraft. I was up till like 3 am watching this while I should have been studying for exams... o well. I realy appreciate the translators work in making the award cermony watchable though some of the awards were cheezy and apprently everyone who won something will do better this year. Only thing that got me about the award ceremony was that when it was over IU came out and started singing. I had no idea who that was I really just wanted to see MMA and DRG go at it but w.e most people seemed to enjoy it. I was just about ready to go to sleep when I saw DRG loose 3 straight but then when he came back and force the ace match there was no way I was going to sleep. Would have liked to see DRG win but grats to MMA.
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
November 19 2012 02:20 GMT
#104
This is still my favorite series ever.

Does anyone know if we're having a Blizzard Cup 2012?

I would venture a guess that most people liked BC 2011 because of what the article said...

great games = great series = great tournament
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