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StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
December 25 2011 21:09 GMT
#81
On December 24 2011 12:59 SoleSteeler wrote:
I took a short video at the end of game 6... the live atmosphere was pretty crazy. Very loud, very energetic. Can't get the full feeling of the excitement from the VODs.

The audio might be a little loud in this video.




That right there.. That is Esports at it's finest
Twitter: @Strintern Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/strintern
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
December 26 2011 03:58 GMT
#82
finally had some time to get around and read this.. great writing! unfortunately never saw blizzcup finals so was a nice recap
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 26 2011 12:23 GMT
#83
Many people forget that the success or failure of the final set rests not only on players or luck, but also on the tournament design. When a Final succeed, each of these component deserves equal blame or praise, but the bracket designer rarely gets the proper respect.
Thank God and gunrun.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 26 2011 13:04 GMT
#84
So Primadog are you saying that the previous GSL format (2011 style) was a failure because it produced blowouts for the finals more often than heated matches?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 21:32:02
December 26 2011 13:11 GMT
#85
On December 26 2011 22:04 Probe1 wrote:
So Primadog are you saying that the previous GSL format (2011 style) was a failure because it produced blowouts for the finals more often than heated matches?


Yes.

I am willing to argue that the evidence is against GSL when it took 10(?) GSLs to finally get a "good" finals. When in comparison, every other tournament out there has much better success rate. My secondary argument is that GSL knows this problem, hence why Mr Chae have went through four or five iterations of the GSL format up to this point. No other tournament has undergo so much and so many drastic changes in format (except, perhaps IPL).

Beyond those two, there're reasons under tournament design as well. It's something I plan to write about eventually of the "bracket theory" series.
Thank God and gunrun.
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
December 26 2011 16:08 GMT
#86
it was a fun tournament
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
December 26 2011 18:00 GMT
#87
Nice write-up, was an enjoyable tournament with some odd format choices, but good games
Remfire
Profile Joined October 2010
492 Posts
December 26 2011 20:03 GMT
#88
nice work thanks for all the information
Chamgi
Profile Joined October 2011
United States11 Posts
December 26 2011 22:22 GMT
#89
it was crazy to the very end
Stay hungry. Stay foolish.
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
December 27 2011 06:27 GMT
#90
On December 23 2011 16:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Obviously bo3 group stages would have been better, but is having 4 games to prove yourself any worse than having let's say... a bo3 against 1 other person? It's a legitimate format, and the later stages had some good series as well besides the finals.


It's not obvious that bo3 would be better than group play. What ever would you make you say such a thing to begin with? And then adding the word obviously?
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
December 27 2011 06:29 GMT
#91
On December 27 2011 15:27 OPL3SA2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 16:06 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Obviously bo3 group stages would have been better, but is having 4 games to prove yourself any worse than having let's say... a bo3 against 1 other person? It's a legitimate format, and the later stages had some good series as well besides the finals.


It's not obvious that bo3 would be better than group play. What ever would you make you say such a thing to begin with? And then adding the word obviously?


Well Bo3 is obviously better than Bo1... That's just common sense...
It being better than 4 Bo1 though is not obvious.
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
December 27 2011 06:31 GMT
#92
On December 25 2011 21:07 Ghostface_Killa wrote:
It's almost 2012 and we're still doing Battle Reports?


It's 2012 and you're still gHoStFaCeKiLLa?
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
December 27 2011 11:00 GMT
#93
On December 25 2011 21:07 Ghostface_Killa wrote:

It's almost 2012 and we're still doing Battle Reports?


Battle report make us see many things we have missed or didn't understand from VOD.
It is the game seen through eyes of expert. I love reading it.
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 28 2011 18:39 GMT
#94
Great write up WaxAngel finally got around to reading it, been so busy last week. Thanks man! : )
Greed leads to just about all losses.
xingnian
Profile Joined December 2011
Barbados2 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-29 08:12:53
December 29 2011 08:12 GMT
#95
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Areon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States273 Posts
December 30 2011 06:00 GMT
#96
I've just gotta throw this out there, that was one of the best conclusions of any article I've ever seen. Waxangel wraps it all up with a positive flair yet cleverly expresses his own opinion in the most agreeable way possible. A great read, the Blizzard Cup was indeed awesome but next year's year end tournament can be even more so.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 30 2011 20:18 GMT
#97
The entire Slayers team rushing the stage after MMA winning and the subsequent celebration was magical. Great play from both players, and I hope the 2 of them find great success in 2012.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
December 31 2011 01:34 GMT
#98
hm i cant agree with waxangel.
for me blizzard cup was great and it was fantastic choosing winner of other tournaments... top30 gsl would be another boring supertournament but this was something way way better

so i have to disagree with what the op says
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Searling
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4 Posts
December 31 2011 02:13 GMT
#99
=)
Get some
Liph
Profile Joined April 2011
United States151 Posts
December 31 2011 05:07 GMT
#100
I disagree completely with your final statements about Gom's production. I honestly feel you are still allowing bitter naniwa resentment to gnaw at you immaturely even though they made the correct decisions. Gom has done everything perfectly in my books and nothing you have wrote or articulated is tactful enough to dissuade.
"You Miss 100% of the Shots You Don't Take - Wayne Gretsky" Michael Gary Scott
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